Darvin Ham said he'll stick with DLo, Malik and Vando in the starting lineup with LeBron and AD: "We’re not gonna go crazy. We’ve already had a plethora of lineups and rotations, so we’re gonna settle in on what we did in this previous game going into the break."
-Goon
That's my go to starting lineup as well.
Much better than anything we had earlier in the season. Vando can help out Davis with rebounding and defense and Russell can help out Legramps with offense. Beasley can just do what he does... chuck up mad 3's, hopefully at 40% plus.
This is what we call an NBA roster _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!!
It's very possible. But man, Beasley's gravity is so strong, the open lanes make the offense click so much better. If Beas can just not be a huge negative on defense, he might close. But I love AR's game as well. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!!
^^ Pretty much agree with that. The one exception might be if Beasley is absolutely on fire. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
Beasley is a true 3pt shooter whereas Walker is just a player that can shoot 3s. It took me a while but I can see why people like Beasley much more…expectations are that Beasley will get back to respectable shooting for his large volume and expectations are that Walker won’t continue to shoot better.
Walker earned a chance to show if he can continue to be consistent shooting over 40% from 3 until the injury…also showed that If his outside shot is off he can get to the rack and finish strong around the rim…not useless if 3pt shot not falling. I expect the consensus response to my take to be against LWIV but those that take the time to evaluate his play for us may be surprised at what is shown. We need Beasley to shoot 40% for the rest of the season and pick up the effort on defense to show what we all believe…that Beasley will be a better fit to the team than LWIV…but if Beasley keeps up his sub-par shooting and LWIV gets back to pre-injury form then the value of them could switch. I wonder if there is a scenario where the Lakers keep both them this off season?
Anyway…I like them both and hope that if a choice is made to get rid of one and keep the other that we make the decision based on the analysis tied to reality and production, not just on emotion tied to perception and expectations. _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
Beasley is a true 3pt shooter whereas Walker is just a player that can shoot 3s. It took me a while but I can see why people like Beasley much more…expectations are that Beasley will get back to respectable shooting for his large volume and expectations are that Walker won’t continue to shoot better.
Walker earned a chance to show if he can continue to be consistent shooting over 40% from 3 until the injury…also showed that If his outside shot is off he can get to the rack and finish strong around the rim…not useless if 3pt shot not falling. I expect the consensus response to my take to be against LWIV but those that take the time to evaluate his play for us may be surprised at what is shown. We need Beasley to shoot 40% for the rest of the season and pick up the effort on defense to show what we all believe…that Beasley will be a better fit to the team than LWIV…but if Beasley keeps up his sub-par shooting and LWIV gets back to pre-injury form then the value of them could switch. I wonder if there is a scenario where the Lakers keep both them this off season?
Anyway…I like them both and hope that if a choice is made to get rid of one and keep the other that we make the decision based on the analysis tied to reality and production, not just on emotion tied to perception and expectations.
I know you know this, but it can't just be about the stats. You gotta watch the games and see how much the offense opens up with Beasley.
If you have time, Raj talks about how his volume shooting is a benefit, even if it's at a lower percentage. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!!
Beasley is a true 3pt shooter whereas Walker is just a player that can shoot 3s. It took me a while but I can see why people like Beasley much more…expectations are that Beasley will get back to respectable shooting for his large volume and expectations are that Walker won’t continue to shoot better.
Walker earned a chance to show if he can continue to be consistent shooting over 40% from 3 until the injury…also showed that If his outside shot is off he can get to the rack and finish strong around the rim…not useless if 3pt shot not falling. I expect the consensus response to my take to be against LWIV but those that take the time to evaluate his play for us may be surprised at what is shown. We need Beasley to shoot 40% for the rest of the season and pick up the effort on defense to show what we all believe…that Beasley will be a better fit to the team than LWIV…but if Beasley keeps up his sub-par shooting and LWIV gets back to pre-injury form then the value of them could switch. I wonder if there is a scenario where the Lakers keep both them this off season?
Anyway…I like them both and hope that if a choice is made to get rid of one and keep the other that we make the decision based on the analysis tied to reality and production, not just on emotion tied to perception and expectations.
I know you know this, but it can't just be about the stats. You gotta watch the games and see how much the offense opens up with Beasley.
If you have time, Raj talks about how his volume shooting is a benefit, even if it's at a lower percentage.
That was my rudimentary understanding as well until I saw Beasley play. You would think we'd realize this with the emergence of Steph Curry and players of similar archetype. Teams just don't want give Beasley a clean look, especially on the move in a catch-and-shoot situation. The amount of attention he demands is so much more than a classic stationary catch-and-shooter like Walker. I felt Walker's ability to drive would confer an advantage but when a defender has to respect the drive, they're more likely to remain in the play. OTOH, defenders flying at/past Beasley as he prepares to launch are more likely to take themselves out of the play altogether and open up the lane. Beasley can be dangerous if others think to cut and Beasley recognizes them. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
Beasley is a true 3pt shooter whereas Walker is just a player that can shoot 3s. It took me a while but I can see why people like Beasley much more…expectations are that Beasley will get back to respectable shooting for his large volume and expectations are that Walker won’t continue to shoot better.
Walker earned a chance to show if he can continue to be consistent shooting over 40% from 3 until the injury…also showed that If his outside shot is off he can get to the rack and finish strong around the rim…not useless if 3pt shot not falling. I expect the consensus response to my take to be against LWIV but those that take the time to evaluate his play for us may be surprised at what is shown. We need Beasley to shoot 40% for the rest of the season and pick up the effort on defense to show what we all believe…that Beasley will be a better fit to the team than LWIV…but if Beasley keeps up his sub-par shooting and LWIV gets back to pre-injury form then the value of them could switch. I wonder if there is a scenario where the Lakers keep both them this off season?
Anyway…I like them both and hope that if a choice is made to get rid of one and keep the other that we make the decision based on the analysis tied to reality and production, not just on emotion tied to perception and expectations.
I know you know this, but it can't just be about the stats. You gotta watch the games and see how much the offense opens up with Beasley.
If you have time, Raj talks about how his volume shooting is a benefit, even if it's at a lower percentage.
yea, agreed _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
Beasley is a true 3pt shooter whereas Walker is just a player that can shoot 3s. It took me a while but I can see why people like Beasley much more…expectations are that Beasley will get back to respectable shooting for his large volume and expectations are that Walker won’t continue to shoot better.
Walker earned a chance to show if he can continue to be consistent shooting over 40% from 3 until the injury…also showed that If his outside shot is off he can get to the rack and finish strong around the rim…not useless if 3pt shot not falling. I expect the consensus response to my take to be against LWIV but those that take the time to evaluate his play for us may be surprised at what is shown. We need Beasley to shoot 40% for the rest of the season and pick up the effort on defense to show what we all believe…that Beasley will be a better fit to the team than LWIV…but if Beasley keeps up his sub-par shooting and LWIV gets back to pre-injury form then the value of them could switch. I wonder if there is a scenario where the Lakers keep both them this off season?
Anyway…I like them both and hope that if a choice is made to get rid of one and keep the other that we make the decision based on the analysis tied to reality and production, not just on emotion tied to perception and expectations.
I know you know this, but it can't just be about the stats. You gotta watch the games and see how much the offense opens up with Beasley.
If you have time, Raj talks about how his volume shooting is a benefit, even if it's at a lower percentage.
That was my rudimentary understanding as well until I saw Beasley play. You would think we'd realize this with the emergence of Steph Curry and players of similar archetype. Teams just don't want give Beasley a clean look, especially on the move in a catch-and-shoot situation. The amount of attention he demands is so much more than a classic stationary catch-and-shooter like Walker. I felt Walker's ability to drive would confer an advantage but when a defender has to respect the drive, they're more likely to remain in the play. OTOH, defenders flying at/past Beasley as he prepares to launch are more likely to take themselves out of the play altogether and open up the lane. Beasley can be dangerous if others think to cut and Beasley recognizes them.
yep, yep _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
I think this is a good problem to have, but part of me wonders if there isn't overlap in the roles that Russell and Reaves might play. That will play out as it will this season, but could become a talking point in summer free agency. _________________ Austin Reaves keeps his game tight, like Kobe Bryant on game night.
Someone pointed out on Lakers Nation that Rui is vastly better at SF, even in Washington. I wonder where they have tabbed when he plays alongside Lebron. Should we try to play Wenyen more at PF and move Brown down to guard as needed? I don't see him squeezing out Reaves or Schro though on a regular basis. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
I think this is a good problem to have, but part of me wonders if there isn't overlap in the roles that Russell and Reaves might play. That will play out as it will this season, but could become a talking point in summer free agency.
The overlap of Dlo vs Reaves as a starting PG is so small that I don’t think it will be an issue. Perhaps Dlo vs Reaves as back up SGs could be a discussion but as reserves at SG with Dlo’s responsibilities as starting PG the overlap discussion at backup SG should be more positive about depth so it’s a good thing. Even if Reaves ascends to starting SG I still don’t anticipate any negative discussion regarding any overlap between Dlo and Reaves. _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
Someone pointed out on Lakers Nation that Rui is vastly better at SF, even in Washington. I wonder where they have tabbed when he plays alongside Lebron. Should we try to play Wenyen more at PF and move Brown down to guard as needed? I don't see him squeezing out Reaves or Schro though on a regular basis.
Good take…I too would like to see Rui backup LeBron more at SF…Gabriel has shown that if given more minutes at PF that he could potentially be more productive and TBjr is more effective at SG.
The issue however would be deciding if it is more effective overall for team success. Gabriel at PF with Rui as SF and TBjr at SG essentially means that Gabriel and TBjr…with the domino affect…takes minutes away from Beasley and Reaves in order to unlock more production from Rui. The team may already have that better production overall in Reaves and Beasley over TBjr and Gabriel despite reduced production from Rui at PF instead of SF.
Tough choices…glad to have them! _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
Dennis Schroder/Lonnie Walker
Austin Reaves/Malik Beasley
Jarred Vanderbilt/Troy Brown Jr
Anthony Davis/Rui Hatchimara
Mo Bamba/Wenyen Gabriel
Should be the lineup tonight. But of course, we will just see Ham’s dumb ass start Troy Brown again while Vanderbilt gets wasted on guarding bigmen, and Mo Bamba not playing again.
Dennis Schroder/Lonnie Walker
Austin Reaves/Malik Beasley
Jarred Vanderbilt/Troy Brown Jr
Anthony Davis/Rui Hatchimara
Mo Bamba/Wenyen Gabriel
Should be the lineup tonight. But of course, we will just see Ham’s dumb ass start Troy Brown again while Vanderbilt gets wasted on guarding bigmen, and Mo Bamba not playing again.
God forbid we actually play a decent sized lineup for once and have an actual Center next to AD.
Yea sticking Vando on big men was a bad move. He was exploited and Davis was again left out on an island.
Dennis Schroder/Lonnie Walker
Austin Reaves/Malik Beasley
Jarred Vanderbilt/Troy Brown Jr
Anthony Davis/Rui Hatchimara
Mo Bamba/Wenyen Gabriel
Should be the lineup tonight. But of course, we will just see Ham’s dumb ass start Troy Brown again while Vanderbilt gets wasted on guarding bigmen, and Mo Bamba not playing again.
God forbid we actually play a decent sized lineup for once and have an actual Center next to AD.
I would consider it smart to start Beasley over Reaves. Schro may provide a little bit of defense in the back court to help with Beasley in the starting unit. Reaves may be able to do the same with LWIVI with the second unit.
Nerlens or Cousins should already be available n the team. Also, I don’t understand TBjr starting or Mo Bamba getting the near DNP. This should be the plan with AD/Lebron/Dlo all out.
Mo/Nerlens
Rui/Gabe
Vande/TBjr
Beasley/Reaves
Schro/LWIV _________________ “When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”
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