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TMG
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| So the next four games should be marked as L's. |
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levon
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| if Ham's looking for a defensive guard, there's a guy by the name of Austin Reaves that changed the tenor of the game. |
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PenG_
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | | So the next four games should be marked as L's. |
Jokic licking his chops |
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Trevacious2
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | It’s one thing to keep starting him. I don’t agree with it, but whatever. Playing him in crunch time is a federal crime. Stop it now and stop it forever. |
A mortal sin! |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Bron kinda lookin like all of us rn |
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PenG_
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | LeBron on competing despite the early shooting struggles: "We can't shoot a penny in the ocean, but it hasn't stopped us from defending." |
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miggz23
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | I don't see how we pin this loss on Russ, honestly.
4:42 left in the game, Russ comes in with the Lakers up 8. Here are the shots from that point on.
Lillard made layup
LeBron missed 3
Grant missed midrange
Russ missed 3
Lillard made 3
Davis made dunk (Russ assist)
Grant missed 3
LeBron made layup
- 1:56, Lakers up 7.
Lillard made two FT (Davis foul)
Beverly missed 3
Nurkic made putback
LeBon missed 3
Simons made layup
Russ missed midrange
Lillard made 3
- 12.4, Lakers down 2
LeBron made dunk
Grant made layup
LeBron missed midrange
Dame scores 10 in the last four minutes while setting up his teammates for good looks. The Lakers take half their shots from three (missing them all) and otherwise try to let the air out of the ball leading to poor looks with a short clock. Russ did take a questionable shot going for a 2-for-1, but otherwise wasn't as the center of the collapse.
**Edit - though I totally agree Russ shouldn't be playing in crunch time. Hurts your spacing and is prone to hero ball errors. |
Lazy way to put a story of the game… Russ disrupted the flow on both sides. Blazers didn’t have to guard him. Also put the Lakers in a defensive and rebounding disadvantage by going smaller. Not to mention going 2for1 with the lead. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | I don't see how we pin this loss on Russ, honestly.
4:42 left in the game, Russ comes in with the Lakers up 8. Here are the shots from that point on.
Lillard made layup
LeBron missed 3
Grant missed midrange
Russ missed 3
Lillard made 3
Davis made dunk (Russ assist)
Grant missed 3
LeBron made layup
- 1:56, Lakers up 7.
Lillard made two FT (Davis foul)
Beverly missed 3
Nurkic made putback
LeBon missed 3
Simons made layup
Russ missed midrange
Lillard made 3
- 12.4, Lakers down 2
LeBron made dunk
Grant made layup
LeBron missed midrange
Dame scores 10 in the last four minutes while setting up his teammates for good looks. The Lakers take half their shots from three (missing them all) and otherwise try to let the air out of the ball leading to poor looks with a short clock. Russ did take a questionable shot going for a 2-for-1, but otherwise wasn't as the center of the collapse.
**Edit - though I totally agree Russ shouldn't be playing in crunch time. Hurts your spacing and is prone to hero ball errors. |
Lazy way to put a story of the game… Russ disrupted the flow on both sides. Blazers didn’t have to guard him. Also put the Lakers in a defensive and rebounding disadvantage by going smaller. Not to mention going 2for1 with the lead. |
To the OP:
| Quote: | Ben Golliver
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Blazers coach Chauncey Billups on matching up center Jusuf Nurkic with Lakers guard Russell Westbrook late: “Putting him on Russ, we were just going to kind of play off of Russ.” |
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dries
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Lebron had a great game on paper again. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| levon wrote: | | if Ham's looking for a defensive guard, there's a guy by the name of Austin Reaves that changed the tenor of the game. |
Ham's lying because he pulled Westbrook for the final defensive possession.
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| The westbrick jokes on Twitter are going wild now, gave me a good laugh. Haha |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| dries wrote: | | Lebron had a great game on paper again. |
Only because defense isn’t on paper. He and AD led the way shooting 16% from 3.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Lazy way to put a story of the game… Russ disrupted the flow on both sides. Blazers didn’t have to guard him. Also put the Lakers in a defensive and rebounding disadvantage by going smaller. Not to mention going 2for1 with the lead. |
I would suggest the opposite is actually the truth, that it's lazy to just point at Russ and say he's the problem anytime the team fails. He defended well tonight, and had a couple decent plays on the offensive end. He's a flawed role player on a team with a bunch of flawed role players. He also happens to make $47 million and put his foot routinely in his mouth. It is what it is.
The solution includes not closing with Russ, but it surely doesn't end there.
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anth2000
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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25-118 from 3 point range.
Horrible!!!
Trade some of these bums for shooters? We don’t need a bunch of point guards that can’t shoot either.
What is wrong with the Lakers front office? Aren’t they that stupid? |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | dries wrote: | | Lebron had a great game on paper again. |
Only because defense isn’t on paper. He and AD led the way shooting 16% from 3. |
Extremes. Lebron had a decent game, neither great nor bad. That's not where the issue lies, but I understand people need to vent. |
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PenG_
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | dries wrote: | | Lebron had a great game on paper again. |
Only because defense isn’t on paper. He and AD led the way shooting 16% from 3. |
Did you watch the game? |
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| ThePageDude wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | dries wrote: | | Lebron had a great game on paper again. |
Only because defense isn’t on paper. He and AD led the way shooting 16% from 3. |
Extremes. Lebron had a decent game, neither great nor bad. That's not where the issue lies, but I understand people need to vent. |
He did. But him and AD shooting 16% from 3 didn’t help, nor did letting Grant blow by him. But I get it, Lebron is in his 20th season. That is why I wouldn’t blame the loss on any specific player, it was a team loss.
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LakerSD
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I think every matchup from now on should be the Los Angeles non-shooters vs. insert professional nba shooting team here. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The main positive out of this game is that Dame is officially back, missed the good old Dame! |
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| ocho wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | KingKobe20 wrote: | | Russ cost us the game |
He is who he is. The guy who had him in there cost us the game. |
Politics...? |
What are the politics here? Why are we catering to this guy? He hasn’t done anything to earn crunch time minutes. He can’t be trusted in a close game. Why is he out there? What the (bleep) are we doing? |
No clue, man. Pelinka got his damn extension, so it's not like he's going to pay for admitting he fvcked up.
They need to rip the band-aid off. |
It’s one thing to keep starting him. I don’t agree with it, but whatever. Playing him in crunch time is a federal crime. Stop it now and stop it forever. |
Russ is too toxic. If he doesn’t start, he fakes injuries and complains. If he doesn’t finish, he fakes injuries and complains. He’s a disruptive presence and clearly makes the team dynamics uncomfortable by his unwillingness to work towards the betterment of the team.
Only options:
- Cater to Russ (as the Lakers have done).
- Send Russ home and replace his minutes with Reaves, Brown, JTA, etc. Defensive players who know their role on offense.
- Trade Russ (this option is best in January as more players become available both contractually and as teams decide to change direction and rebuild). |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| All Russ had to do, if he won’t or can’t shoot the open 3 with Nurkic dropping in the paint, set a dang pick for Bron up top, switch the defenders, Jesus |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2022 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | All Russ had to do, if he won’t or can’t shoot the open 3 with Nurkic dropping in the paint, set a dang pick for Bron up top, switch the defenders, Jesus |
or like big game said bron could have drove to the basket.
we are not a good squad. have not been for 2+ years.
be competitive
Bron chase KAJ
enjoy the team
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| phantasyman wrote: | | DrDent wrote: | Team was 6-33 from 3. That's now 2 games where even NBA subpar 3 point shooting would have allowed them a W. This garbage shooting was also in preseason.
We've watched a team that had some 3 guys and 3/d guys gut itself to get...Russ...over time. What a waste.
If this is what we are going to be left with rest of this year, just do everyone a favor and gut the whole club, and rebuild. Get picks. Get young. Fine. But this is just depressing and overall beyond frustrating to experience as the FO has us stuck in "neutral" waiting for a miracle. |
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Thats exactly the league reaction to this $#! Show
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