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| ksmgf wrote: | | The only team that can beat us is Atlanta. |
And they just got swept and took a brutal 2-16 beating today. Their pitching is vulnerable. |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ksmgf wrote: | | The only team that can beat us is Atlanta. |
And they just got swept and took a brutal 2-16 beating today. Their pitching is vulnerable. |
I thought they are resting their starters since they got the first seed secured. |
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| ksmgf wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ksmgf wrote: | | The only team that can beat us is Atlanta. |
And they just got swept and took a brutal 2-16 beating today. Their pitching is vulnerable. |
I thought they are resting their starters since they got the first seed secured. |
Their entire staff has like a 6.50 ERA this month. Morton pitched today, and he's definitely in their playoff rotation. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| ksmgf wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ksmgf wrote: | | The only team that can beat us is Atlanta. |
And they just got swept and took a brutal 2-16 beating today. Their pitching is vulnerable. |
I thought they are resting their starters since they got the first seed secured. |
They haven't quite secured it yet though they are in the driver's seat. They are up 4 on us in the loss column (5 by virtue of tie breakers), and there are still 13 games to play (14 for us). This may be a mental let down after beating us 3 of 4, but they are slumping at the perfect time.
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| Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| strong9 wrote: | | ksmgf wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ksmgf wrote: | | The only team that can beat us is Atlanta. |
And they just got swept and took a brutal 2-16 beating today. Their pitching is vulnerable. |
I thought they are resting their starters since they got the first seed secured. |
They haven't quite secured it yet though they are in the driver's seat. They are up 4 on us in the loss column (5 by virtue of tie breakers), and there are still 13 games to play (14 for us). This may be a mental let down after beating us 3 of 4, but they are slumping at the perfect time. |
Yeah, they're pulling a Dodgers in September lol. Our magic number is getting smaller to clinch the #2 seed, also. We won the season series against Milwaukee (5-1), and they are 8 games behind us in the loss column, with a record of 84-65. So if they ran the table, they'd finish 97-65; if we tie that, we clinch, and we're 91-57. Thus, our magic number should be 6 to clinch the #2 seed.
Didn't see the game today but I'm happy to see Stone finally strike some people out, even if shadows may have been involved. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:59 am Post subject: |
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1) The Braves are messing around and might lose the best overall record to the Orioles. This would give the Orioles home field n the WS:
| Quote: | ATL: 96-53
BAL: 93-56 |
ATL took the season series (2-1).
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2) We need to finish the year 9-5 to reach 100 wins. I'd like to finish with 100 wins. That'd be amazing
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3) Here's our record vs. Tampa Bay:
| Quote: | LAD: 91-57
TB: 92-59 |
So who gets home field in the World Series? Tampa Bay would be a Wild Card team. We're division winners. Does that matter or is it strictly by record?
Sounds like it goes strictly by record:
| Quote: | Which pennant winner gets home-field advantage in the World Series?
Home-field for the World Series round goes to the team with the best regular-season record, regardless of postseason seeding within that team’s league.
If the two teams had identical regular season records, the tiebreaker format linked above (head-to-head record, then intradivision record, then interdivision record) applies. |
We're 1-2 vs. Tampa Bay this year. So, they have the tie-breaker against us as well.
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4) We're 2-1 vs. Baltimore, so we have the tiebreaker over them:
| Quote: | BAL: 93-56
LAD: 91-57 |
Yeah, still lots to play for with 14 games left. |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | It has to be said that nobody expect this team to win the division this year, especially since it looked like they did very little during the off season and before the trade deadline. Yet for some reason, the team managed to gel and play well together in spite of all obstacles. Meanwhile a team down south, 2 hours away, whom many had expected to take over the division and spent big is out of the playoffs and 20 games behind the Dodgers. This team has the 4th best record in baseball if all things go right even with their pitching woes they have a chance to win a World Series. I don't think even the most diehard Dodger fan would expect this out of this ball club this season. |
Ahem (I don't know how to insert the actual quote here other than copy and paste so forgive the formatting lol)
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Dodgers 2023 season looks like it might be toast before it even begins. Of course that could galvanize the players and they have a good run.
Dodgers will still win 90+ games and easily make the playoffs.
And then, of course, likely flame out per usual
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I really reeeeeeaaally want to be wrong about the second part for a change. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| oasisdude77 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | It has to be said that nobody expect this team to win the division this year, especially since it looked like they did very little during the off season and before the trade deadline. Yet for some reason, the team managed to gel and play well together in spite of all obstacles. Meanwhile a team down south, 2 hours away, whom many had expected to take over the division and spent big is out of the playoffs and 20 games behind the Dodgers. This team has the 4th best record in baseball if all things go right even with their pitching woes they have a chance to win a World Series. I don't think even the most diehard Dodger fan would expect this out of this ball club this season. |
Ahem (I don't know how to insert the actual quote here other than copy and paste so forgive the formatting lol)
| oasisdude77 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Dodgers 2023 season looks like it might be toast before it even begins. Of course that could galvanize the players and they have a good run. |
Dodgers will still win 90+ games and easily make the playoffs.
And then, of course, likely flame out per usual
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I really reeeeeeaaally want to be wrong about the second part for a change. |
I'll format it for you...
Anyways, I don't see a contradiction here.
| Quote: | 1) lakersken80 said nobody expected us to win the division this year, which was generally true. Everyone expected San Diego to take the division.
2) You said: "Dodgers will still win 90+ games and easily make the playoffs" - which was generally expected. Most on here expected us to win 90+ games and make the Wild Card. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | oasisdude77 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | It has to be said that nobody expect this team to win the division this year, especially since it looked like they did very little during the off season and before the trade deadline. Yet for some reason, the team managed to gel and play well together in spite of all obstacles. Meanwhile a team down south, 2 hours away, whom many had expected to take over the division and spent big is out of the playoffs and 20 games behind the Dodgers. This team has the 4th best record in baseball if all things go right even with their pitching woes they have a chance to win a World Series. I don't think even the most diehard Dodger fan would expect this out of this ball club this season. |
Ahem (I don't know how to insert the actual quote here other than copy and paste so forgive the formatting lol)
| oasisdude77 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Dodgers 2023 season looks like it might be toast before it even begins. Of course that could galvanize the players and they have a good run. |
Dodgers will still win 90+ games and easily make the playoffs.
And then, of course, likely flame out per usual
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I really reeeeeeaaally want to be wrong about the second part for a change. |
I'll format it for you...
Anyways, I don't see a contradiction here.
| Quote: | 1) lakersken80 said nobody expected us to win the division this year, which was generally true. Everyone expected San Diego to take the division.
2) You said: "Dodgers will still win 90+ games and easily make the playoffs" - which was generally expected. Most on here expected us to win 90+ games and make the Wild Card. |
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Most didn't expect it with rookies starting 47 games. This is a run producing machine. The pitching staff is looking good for the future. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| ExPatLkrFan wrote: | | Most didn't expect it with rookies starting 47 games. This is a run producing machine. The pitching staff is looking good for the future. |
It depends on when in the year we're talking about. The quote was from February, so before the year started and before all the injuries and all the rookies.
I'd say most people before the year started, expected us to make the playoffs as a wild card team.
Here's one publication:
I mean, you could scroll through here to see if anyone predicted we'd miss the playoffs altogether. I don't remember anyone predicting we'd miss the playoffs entirely. Just mostly that SD was going to win the division. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | oasisdude77 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | It has to be said that nobody expect this team to win the division this year, especially since it looked like they did very little during the off season and before the trade deadline. Yet for some reason, the team managed to gel and play well together in spite of all obstacles. Meanwhile a team down south, 2 hours away, whom many had expected to take over the division and spent big is out of the playoffs and 20 games behind the Dodgers. This team has the 4th best record in baseball if all things go right even with their pitching woes they have a chance to win a World Series. I don't think even the most diehard Dodger fan would expect this out of this ball club this season. |
Ahem (I don't know how to insert the actual quote here other than copy and paste so forgive the formatting lol)
| oasisdude77 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Dodgers 2023 season looks like it might be toast before it even begins. Of course that could galvanize the players and they have a good run. |
Dodgers will still win 90+ games and easily make the playoffs.
And then, of course, likely flame out per usual
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I really reeeeeeaaally want to be wrong about the second part for a change. |
I'll format it for you...
Anyways, I don't see a contradiction here.
| Quote: | 1) lakersken80 said nobody expected us to win the division this year, which was generally true. Everyone expected San Diego to take the division.
2) You said: "Dodgers will still win 90+ games and easily make the playoffs" - which was generally expected. Most on here expected us to win 90+ games and make the Wild Card. |
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Haha, fair enough 
But, really, I don't think most of us expected a 90+ win season here and many thought we'd miss the playoffs. Especially after we didn't sign anybody and then Lux went down. A lot of doom and gloom, from what I remember.
Regardless...whatever the case is. I just want us to win the last game in October! |
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Yeah that does explain it.
But he shouldn’t be batting 3rd with a broken rib. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:32 am Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: |
Yeah that does explain it.
But he shouldn’t be batting 3rd with a broken rib. |
That, and...we couldn't find a way to shut him down for a few weeks or something? I realize Barnes would've been an awful starter, but we couldn't have figured something else out? He had to play through it? |
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 11:56 am Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: |
Yeah that does explain it.
But he shouldn’t be batting 3rd with a broken rib. |
That, and...we couldn't find a way to shut him down for a few weeks or something? I realize Barnes would've been an awful starter, but we couldn't have figured something else out? He had to play through it? |
Well, until late August, Barnes was hitting below .100 with a wRC+ ranging from 37 to -17. He was statistically one of the worst hitters of all time. I think Cartaya having a major regression in the minors probably forced our hand. |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: |
Yeah that does explain it.
But he shouldn’t be batting 3rd with a broken rib. |
That, and...we couldn't find a way to shut him down for a few weeks or something? I realize Barnes would've been an awful starter, but we couldn't have figured something else out? He had to play through it? |
Well, until late August, Barnes was hitting below .100 with a wRC+ ranging from 37 to -17. He was statistically one of the worst hitters of all time. I think Cartaya having a major regression in the minors probably forced our hand. |
We couldn't have made a trade? Even now, Smith is playing a lot. And it's still affecting him? |
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: |
Yeah that does explain it.
But he shouldn’t be batting 3rd with a broken rib. |
That, and...we couldn't find a way to shut him down for a few weeks or something? I realize Barnes would've been an awful starter, but we couldn't have figured something else out? He had to play through it? |
Well, until late August, Barnes was hitting below .100 with a wRC+ ranging from 37 to -17. He was statistically one of the worst hitters of all time. I think Cartaya having a major regression in the minors probably forced our hand. |
We couldn't have made a trade? Even now, Smith is playing a lot. And it's still affecting him? |
It's still affecting him, but even with that he's been the 2nd best qualified hitting catcher this year, sandwiched in between the Contreras brothers. If you drop it down to only 300 PA, he's still 6th. I don't really see how sitting Smith for some random catcher would have helped us at all, given he could deal with the pain. |
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I'm trying to stay optimistic but realistically I don't think our pitching is championship level (primarily starting pitching). Still going to root for them and hope for the best.
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| 32 wrote: | | I'm trying to stay optimistic but realistically I don't think our pitching is championship level (primarily starting pitching). Still going to root for them and hope for the best. |
No it’s definitely not. But that’s the thing. Can’t have everything. Every year in baseball some team wins without having championship caliber pitching or hitting or BP or bench or whatever. We have been stacked in the past and come up short. Now that we are lacking I see it as no excuse and that we have to find a way. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Snipes wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | I'm trying to stay optimistic but realistically I don't think our pitching is championship level (primarily starting pitching). Still going to root for them and hope for the best. |
No it’s definitely not. But that’s the thing. Can’t have everything. Every year in baseball some team wins without having championship caliber pitching or hitting or BP or bench or whatever. We have been stacked in the past and come up short. Now that we are lacking I see it as no excuse and that we have to find a way. |
Kinda agree, kinda don’t
I think it definitely is an excuse this year. If we come up short, I think we’d all accept it.
But, there is the hope that we have a magical run like 1988 or the 2021 Braves. |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: |
Yeah that does explain it.
But he shouldn’t be batting 3rd with a broken rib. |
That, and...we couldn't find a way to shut him down for a few weeks or something? I realize Barnes would've been an awful starter, but we couldn't have figured something else out? He had to play through it? |
Well, until late August, Barnes was hitting below .100 with a wRC+ ranging from 37 to -17. He was statistically one of the worst hitters of all time. I think Cartaya having a major regression in the minors probably forced our hand. |
We couldn't have made a trade? Even now, Smith is playing a lot. And it's still affecting him? |
It's still affecting him, but even with that he's been the 2nd best qualified hitting catcher this year, sandwiched in between the Contreras brothers. If you drop it down to only 300 PA, he's still 6th. I don't really see how sitting Smith for some random catcher would have helped us at all, given he could deal with the pain. |
I don’t think the argument is about the reg season.
The argument is for the playoffs. He’s struggling mightily heading into the playoffs. Would it have been better to rest him (and have a worse record) but have a healthy Smith heading into the playoffs? |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: |
Yeah that does explain it.
But he shouldn’t be batting 3rd with a broken rib. |
That, and...we couldn't find a way to shut him down for a few weeks or something? I realize Barnes would've been an awful starter, but we couldn't have figured something else out? He had to play through it? |
Well, until late August, Barnes was hitting below .100 with a wRC+ ranging from 37 to -17. He was statistically one of the worst hitters of all time. I think Cartaya having a major regression in the minors probably forced our hand. |
We couldn't have made a trade? Even now, Smith is playing a lot. And it's still affecting him? |
Or even picking up Gary Sanchez, who did great for the Padres. |
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