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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:22 pm    Post subject:

he's the new dlo of the team
I hope this "we really don't want to trade him!!!" is just an attempt to pump his value up to teams who are Rui-curious and not sure what he should be valued as
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:37 pm    Post subject:

He's an above average backup 4 a la Bobby Portis or Markieff Morris. He'a always at a disadvantage playing at the starting 3. He gets Mr Krabs spinning memed by faster teams, on both ends.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:52 pm    Post subject:

rui played 25 mins because jj wants his scoring but only scored 6 and grab 1 reb with no defense. lol

if he's not scoring, what he doing for 25 mins? lol

dfs role is defense but scored more


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:54 pm    Post subject:

Ship him out, either for a big or a wing upgrade
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:55 pm    Post subject:

He’s like Carmelo’s bad attitude and defense without 80% of the scoring talent.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:58 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
He’s like Carmelo’s bad attitude and defense without 80% of the scoring talent.


dfs already getting his groove on offense, do they really need rui? Dfs defends and rebound better.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:04 pm    Post subject:

Rui's mediocrity was hidden under DLo's worse slumps on a bigger role.

Not that I wanted to keep DLo at all costs or anything, but Rui was never that great himself. He can also disappear (like in that last series against DEN) and he's not capable of the same highs as DLo, all while making a similar salary.

His negative impact on defensive might be worse than DLo's too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:05 pm    Post subject:

leking006 wrote:
rui played 25 mins because jj wants his scoring but only scored 6 and grab 1 reb with no defense. lol

if he's not scoring, what he doing for 25 mins? lol

dfs role is defense but scored more



Rui is here for diversity purposes
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:06 pm    Post subject:

Japago wrote:
Rui's mediocrity was hidden under DLo's worse slumps on a bigger role.

Not that I wanted to keep DLo at all costs or anything, but Rui was never that great himself. He can also disappear (like in that last series against DEN) and he's not capable of the same highs as DLo, all while making a similar salary.

His negative impact on defensive might be worse than DLo's too.


People here fell in love with Rui because we got him for second round picks and he was a semi-decent player at times. It turns out there was a reason why he was available for second round picks.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Rui is trash. His stats are the definition of empty stats. Besides making some mid range jumpers (can’t really shoot threes consistently), he’s a poor rebounder and passer. He should be coming off the bench if mot gets traded.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:15 pm    Post subject:

I was worried about when we went after DFS... Rui's been on his head probably reason JJ gave him that mental rest during the game... I think Rui been playing scared like someone is after his starting job.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:19 pm    Post subject:

With DLo, Rob could tell him we need 40 and he could go out and score 40. You're never telling Rui that or asking it of him.

The team needs scoring, the team especially needs bench scoring. And a lot of guys on the team that could coast by not scoring due to the insurance Dlo provided no longer have the luxury so need to step up and be more consistent than they were.

For Rui it's about having enough scoring in the starring lineup to move him to the bench and make him a 6th man scorer.

And again all these issues could have been solved with the roster we'd already had if we'd waited for them to get healthy. But we made the decision we made and guys need to step up, neither Rii nor Vincent can rely on 'coast' games for us to bear good teams anymore


It's step up or sit down time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:23 pm    Post subject:

Good loss for JJ to justify moving him to the bench. He won’t be on the team past next years trade deadline anyways.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:27 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
With DLo, Rob could tell him we need 40 and he could go out and score 40. You're never telling Rui that or asking it of him.

The team needs scoring, the team especially needs bench scoring. And a lot of guys on the team that could coast by not scoring due to the insurance Dlo provided no longer have the luxury so need to step up and be more consistent than they were.

For Rui it's about having enough scoring in the starring lineup to move him to the bench and make him a 6th man scorer.

And again all these issues could have been solved with the roster we'd already had if we'd waited for them to get healthy. But we made the decision we made and guys need to step up, neither Rii nor Vincent can rely on 'coast' games for us to bear good teams anymore


It's step up or sit down time.


Meh DLO don't win us tonight's game either... What DLO would have done to stop Ivey and Grimes?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:29 pm    Post subject:

Rui is to JJ what Prince was to Ham. It's funny how it's easy to identify a coaches favorite. I doubt this loss will change the starting 5.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:37 pm    Post subject:

With AR and 40 year old Lebron we need the other 3 people starting to play elite defense to cover their mistakes. Rui just isnt capable of doing that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:41 pm    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
Rui is to JJ what Prince was to Ham. It's funny how it's easy to identify a coaches favorite. I doubt this loss will change the starting 5.


Harrell to Vogel lol
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:42 pm    Post subject:

Ksig wrote:
With AR and 40 year old Lebron we need the other 3 people starting to play elite defense to cover their mistakes. Rui just isnt capable of doing that.


AD/DFS/Max with 2 players who can score will likely has positve net ratings
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:43 pm    Post subject:

leking006 wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
Rui is to JJ what Prince was to Ham. It's funny how it's easy to identify a coaches favorite. I doubt this loss will change the starting 5.


Harrell to Vogel lol


Not even man... Vogel barely played Harrell and was pretty much out of rotation at the end and during the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:50 pm    Post subject:

Net Rating for certain lineups update (last 5 games):

AD/Bron/Rui/Max/AR
54 Mins
Off Rating : 97.4
Def Rating : 119.3
Net Rating : -21.9

AD/Bron/DFS/Max/AR
16 Mins
Off Rating : 156.3
Def Rating : 94.3
Net Rating : +62

AD/Rui/DFS/Max/AR
14 Mins
Off Rating : 110.7
Def Rating : 88.9
Net Rating : +21.8
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 7:54 pm    Post subject:

leking006 wrote:
Net Rating for certain lineups update (last 5 games):

AD/Bron/Rui/Max/AR
54 Mins
Off Rating : 97.4
Def Rating : 119.3
Net Rating : -21.9

AD/Bron/DFS/Max/AR
16 Mins
Off Rating : 156.3
Def Rating : 94.3
Net Rating : +62


Yea I won't be surprise if JJ makes that move after tonight's game... Rui is not exactly helping himself... See if he can be more of scorer off the bench.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:03 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
MJST wrote:
With DLo, Rob could tell him we need 40 and he could go out and score 40. You're never telling Rui that or asking it of him.

The team needs scoring, the team especially needs bench scoring. And a lot of guys on the team that could coast by not scoring due to the insurance Dlo provided no longer have the luxury so need to step up and be more consistent than they were.

For Rui it's about having enough scoring in the starring lineup to move him to the bench and make him a 6th man scorer.

And again all these issues could have been solved with the roster we'd already had if we'd waited for them to get healthy. But we made the decision we made and guys need to step up, neither Rii nor Vincent can rely on 'coast' games for us to bear good teams anymore


It's step up or sit down time.


Meh DLO don't win us tonight's game either... What DLO would have done to stop Ivey and Grimes?


The D'lo glazing will never end.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:09 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
With DLo, Rob could tell him we need 40 and he could go out and score 40. You're never telling Rui that or asking it of him.

The team needs scoring, the team especially needs bench scoring. And a lot of guys on the team that could coast by not scoring due to the insurance Dlo provided no longer have the luxury so need to step up and be more consistent than they were.

For Rui it's about having enough scoring in the starring lineup to move him to the bench and make him a 6th man scorer.

And again all these issues could have been solved with the roster we'd already had if we'd waited for them to get healthy. But we made the decision we made and guys need to step up, neither Rii nor Vincent can rely on 'coast' games for us to bear good teams anymore


It's step up or sit down time.


DLO’s points high this season was 28….
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:09 pm    Post subject:

Rui isn’t quick enough to play in a lineup that already is slow with Reaves/Lebron/AD. Not enough foot speed there to cover shooters.

I think Rui/DFS are redundant so I’d ship Rui out. I liked him at first he reminded me of a mini Giannis, but he ain’t that anymore
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:12 pm    Post subject:

If there's a time to get players acclimated to new roles (e.g. DFS starting and Rui as a 6th man), then there's no better time during a home stand against bottom dwellers. We have a month to assess Rui as well as any potential contributions Vando and Wood can make for this season. If we have both of the latter, I feel better about sacrificing forward depth (Rui) to make improvements elsewhere. We badly need help on the boards. Having Rui as salary ballast opens up a lot of options without sacrificing guard depth (Gabe). That's assuming of course that Kessler really is off table for anything that we're willing to offer (i.e. no more than 1 FRP) and that we'd need to pursue a higher-priced center.
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