Lebron isn't the best teacher nor is he the most skilled.
What is he gonna teach? How to drive straight to the basket? Smh
Working with LeBron was the worst recommendation.
Rui went from playing like Kobe, more finesse, mid post to bully ball.
That's not his game.
His game is more like Kobe than LeBron.
LoL Rui is not even getting an opportunity to showcase anything. They have not run any plays for him. I don’t even recall if they have put him in a post or offscreen for a mid range. He has barely played to even make a major impact. But for some reason he has the shortest leash out of all our top paid players.
We dont know, what he and Lebron worked on in the offseason. I don’t think they were working only on bully ball. He was also working with Phil Handy a lot on footwork and ball handling.
We also have to factor there was a playoff season that inflated a little bit of Rui's value. He probably was going to be a MLE player if not for those playoffs. Vanderbilt was starting ahead of him. Now Prince starts ahead of him. Not sure what the exact reason is. Could be defense. Could be that they want a defensive 3 next to Lebron, and Prince/Vandy fit that mold more than Rui.
Either way, at 17M you better hope Ham finds a way to utilize him better than he has the first 2 games.
We also have to factor there was a playoff season that inflated a little bit of Rui's value. He probably was going to be a MLE player if not for those playoffs. Vanderbilt was starting ahead of him. Now Prince starts ahead of him. Not sure what the exact reason is. Could be defense. Could be that they want a defensive 3 next to Lebron, and Prince/Vandy fit that mold more than Rui.
Either way, at 17M you better hope Ham finds a way to utilize him better than he has the first 2 games.
Unless something is going behind the scene. It does not make sense. Like you said the kid just had a productive playoffs. During the regular season last year he averaged but 22mpg for the Lakers. Suddenly his play and minutes just tanked during the preseason?
We also have to factor there was a playoff season that inflated a little bit of Rui's value. He probably was going to be a MLE player if not for those playoffs. Vanderbilt was starting ahead of him. Now Prince starts ahead of him. Not sure what the exact reason is. Could be defense. Could be that they want a defensive 3 next to Lebron, and Prince/Vandy fit that mold more than Rui.
Either way, at 17M you better hope Ham finds a way to utilize him better than he has the first 2 games.
Unless something is going behind the scene. It does not make sense. Like you said the kid just had a productive playoffs. During the regular season last year he averaged but 22mpg for the Lakers. Suddenly his play and minutes just tanked during the preseason?
As I said in the offseason, it will be interesting to see how Ham plays Vanderbilt/Prince/Rui/Wood in the moments Lebron/AD are healthy.
Right now Vandy is out. When Lebron is healthy, he is good for at least 30 min at the 4. I don't think the team sees Rui as a 3. He's more of a 4. But even so, he can get some time at both spots. But if you are looking at Prince as you 3, you then have Rui as your backup at both spots. In this case when Lebron sits, Rui gets a chance. However you also have to take into account Ham likes himself some 3 guard lineups (Reaves at the 3). If Reaves also gets some 3 action, and the advanced stats seem to support Ham's cause for 3 guard lineups, then we're going to face this issue all the times Lebron plays.
If Vandy were available, it's possible Rui would get no PT in some games. I know that sounds crazy, but I don't see where all these pieces fit if Lebron and AD are healthy. This seems like a great RS roster built to cover for all the games in the RS Lebron misses. But in the playoffs you need a core and a strong 8 man rotation. We've got a coach who loves 3 guard lineups, and we have a heavy forward/big wing roster. What we need is likely a trade to balance it out. Some big wings out for a guard who can defend at the 1/2. This way Ham is happy as he has 3 guard lineups, only the 3 guard lineups are more potent. We would also then have a clear cut 5/4/3 starting unit, a clear strong 3 guard lineup (when bench rotations came into play) and more PT for Rui. With Prince, Rui, Vanderbilt (when he's back), Wood, Reddish etc. there's just not enough PT for Rui to make his mark. Especially if you also run Reaves at the 3 as a 3 guard lineup.
We also have to factor there was a playoff season that inflated a little bit of Rui's value. He probably was going to be a MLE player if not for those playoffs. Vanderbilt was starting ahead of him. Now Prince starts ahead of him. Not sure what the exact reason is. Could be defense. Could be that they want a defensive 3 next to Lebron, and Prince/Vandy fit that mold more than Rui.
Either way, at 17M you better hope Ham finds a way to utilize him better than he has the first 2 games.
Unless something is going behind the scene. It does not make sense. Like you said the kid just had a productive playoffs. During the regular season last year he averaged but 22mpg for the Lakers. Suddenly his play and minutes just tanked during the preseason?
As I said in the offseason, it will be interesting to see how Ham plays Vanderbilt/Prince/Rui/Wood in the moments Lebron/AD are healthy.
Right now Vandy is out. When Lebron is healthy, he is good for at least 30 min at the 4. I don't think the team sees Rui as a 3. He's more of a 4. But even so, he can get some time at both spots. But if you are looking at Prince as you 3, you then have Rui as your backup at both spots. In this case when Lebron sits, Rui gets a chance. However you also have to take into account Ham likes himself some 3 guard lineups (Reaves at the 3). If Reaves also gets some 3 action, and the advanced stats seem to support Ham's cause for 3 guard lineups, then we're going to face this issue all the times Lebron plays.
If Vandy were available, it's possible Rui would get no PT in some games. I know that sounds crazy, but I don't see where all these pieces fit if Lebron and AD are healthy. This seems like a great RS roster built to cover for all the games in the RS Lebron misses. But in the playoffs you need a core and a strong 8 man rotation. We've got a coach who loves 3 guard lineups, and we have a heavy forward/big wing roster. What we need is likely a trade to balance it out. Some big wings out for a guard who can defend at the 1/2. This way Ham is happy as he has 3 guard lineups, only the 3 guard lineups are more potent. We would also then have a clear cut 5/4/3 starting unit, a clear strong 3 guard lineup (when bench rotations came into play) and more PT for Rui. With Prince, Rui, Vanderbilt (when he's back), Wood, Reddish etc. there's just not enough PT for Rui to make his mark. Especially if you also run Reaves at the 3 as a 3 guard lineup.
The reason I said it does not make sense, because I have never seen a player be out of the main rotation in the first 2 games of the season after just signing a big contract. Also I thought the Lakers just traded out of 3 guards line-ups. Reason Rob went after some big wings to get away from that. Now you think we should trade for a guard and go back to what we just went away from?
Rui has proven he can be a major asset and role player for this team. We seen that in the playoffs. Reason they kept him and paid him to stay. Also we seen Rui play effectively next to Lebron and AD as a 3/4.
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2023 10:38 am Post subject:
Outspoken wrote:
Rui didn't regressed because he got his contract.
He regressed after working out with LeBron.
Lebron isn't the best teacher nor is he the most skilled.
What is he gonna teach? How to drive straight to the basket? Smh
Working with LeBron was the worst recommendation.
Rui went from playing like Kobe, more finesse, mid post to bully ball.
That's not his game.
His game is more like Kobe than LeBron.
Has Rui regressed? He is starting out this season similar to previous seasons. We can hope for improvement but blaming his progress on any other player is silly. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
We also have to factor there was a playoff season that inflated a little bit of Rui's value. He probably was going to be a MLE player if not for those playoffs. Vanderbilt was starting ahead of him. Now Prince starts ahead of him. Not sure what the exact reason is. Could be defense. Could be that they want a defensive 3 next to Lebron, and Prince/Vandy fit that mold more than Rui.
Either way, at 17M you better hope Ham finds a way to utilize him better than he has the first 2 games.
Unless something is going behind the scene. It does not make sense. Like you said the kid just had a productive playoffs. During the regular season last year he averaged but 22mpg for the Lakers. Suddenly his play and minutes just tanked during the preseason?
As I said in the offseason, it will be interesting to see how Ham plays Vanderbilt/Prince/Rui/Wood in the moments Lebron/AD are healthy.
Right now Vandy is out. When Lebron is healthy, he is good for at least 30 min at the 4. I don't think the team sees Rui as a 3. He's more of a 4. But even so, he can get some time at both spots. But if you are looking at Prince as you 3, you then have Rui as your backup at both spots. In this case when Lebron sits, Rui gets a chance. However you also have to take into account Ham likes himself some 3 guard lineups (Reaves at the 3). If Reaves also gets some 3 action, and the advanced stats seem to support Ham's cause for 3 guard lineups, then we're going to face this issue all the times Lebron plays.
If Vandy were available, it's possible Rui would get no PT in some games. I know that sounds crazy, but I don't see where all these pieces fit if Lebron and AD are healthy. This seems like a great RS roster built to cover for all the games in the RS Lebron misses. But in the playoffs you need a core and a strong 8 man rotation. We've got a coach who loves 3 guard lineups, and we have a heavy forward/big wing roster. What we need is likely a trade to balance it out. Some big wings out for a guard who can defend at the 1/2. This way Ham is happy as he has 3 guard lineups, only the 3 guard lineups are more potent. We would also then have a clear cut 5/4/3 starting unit, a clear strong 3 guard lineup (when bench rotations came into play) and more PT for Rui. With Prince, Rui, Vanderbilt (when he's back), Wood, Reddish etc. there's just not enough PT for Rui to make his mark. Especially if you also run Reaves at the 3 as a 3 guard lineup.
It does seem Wood is getting more run at 4, especially with Hayes a more viable option at C than we probably thought he would be. I know he combined for only 13 minutes in the first 2 games but I think we'll see more of him against the non-contenders. I would hope that Bron and AD aren't playing close to 40 minutes against the bottom half of the league.
I've said Rui may be more of a complementary player than a go-to. Even as a very good complementary player it justifies his contract, especially if Playoff Rui is a thing. But we do seem to have a lot of those and it's only been magnified with Reaves being subpar so far and DLO not quite living up to the (probably unrealistic) expectations set up by his preseason play.
I do agree that some sort of consolidation makes sense. With Vando being untradeable and with Prince being such a seamless fit and bargain but having no bird rights/trade value, Rui does seem to be the last man standing, especially with his salary ballast. But is there a version of Rui that doesn't meet our expectations/needs but has worthwhile trade value?
Finally, many have alluded to bigger lineups, especially against Denver which Rui would be extremely helpful in. I can imagine situations where it makes sense to keep DLO and Gabe on the bench and put Prince/Vando on Murray with Wood/Rui getting almost all of the frontcourt minutes alongside Bron/AD. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
Lebron isn't the best teacher nor is he the most skilled.
What is he gonna teach? How to drive straight to the basket? Smh
Working with LeBron was the worst recommendation.
Rui went from playing like Kobe, more finesse, mid post to bully ball.
That's not his game.
His game is more like Kobe than LeBron.
Has Rui regressed? He is starting out this season similar to previous seasons. We can hope for improvement but blaming his progress on any other player is silly.
He hasn't definitely regressed but between his new contract and playoff performance it's not surprising that some are disappointed. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit)
Lebron isn't the best teacher nor is he the most skilled.
What is he gonna teach? How to drive straight to the basket? Smh
Working with LeBron was the worst recommendation.
Rui went from playing like Kobe, more finesse, mid post to bully ball.
That's not his game.
His game is more like Kobe than LeBron.
LoL Rui is not even getting an opportunity to showcase anything. They have not run any plays for him. I don’t even recall if they have put him in a post or offscreen for a mid range. He has barely played to even make a major impact. But for some reason he has the shortest leash out of all our top paid players.
We dont know, what he and Lebron worked on in the offseason. I don’t think they were working only on bully ball. He was also working with Phil Handy a lot on footwork and ball handling.
When he is in, he's playing bully ball - from the preseason to the regular season.
He has abandoned the mid post. I can see what he worked on and it doesn't look good.
he needs to start playing taurean and rui together they are different players and offer different things on the court. not a fan of 1 or the other. but good to see rui string together some offense _________________ He's my GOAT
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 9:07 pm Post subject:
miggz23 wrote:
He needs to start bottom line... Him and Lebron have good chemistry. They should be able to guard 3s and 4s most nights.
I don’t have faith in either guarding 3’s effectively. Good offensive game tonight and some needed help on the boards. But defensively he was just there. He still has room to develop but I’m not sure he will be a 2-way player. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Rui lacks motor. I would not start him. Play him big minutes when he is hot, but does not strike me as a reliable player. He scored 24 in a game we were completely dismantled in. I would not be jumping up and down at that.
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