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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:28 pm    Post subject:

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What does Rui Hachimura even do for this team?

Well, whenever LeBron or AD are out-

He steps up as LA’s only Scoring Punch at Forward.

In 6 gms w/o AD in 23-24:

21.2 pts | 7.7 reb | 2.2 asts | 1 blk
53% fgs | 48% 3fgs (2.7)
https://twitter.com/LakersLegacyPod/status/1885021095662936246

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:50 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
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What does Rui Hachimura even do for this team?

Well, whenever LeBron or AD are out-

He steps up as LA’s only Scoring Punch at Forward.

In 6 gms w/o AD in 23-24:

21.2 pts | 7.7 reb | 2.2 asts | 1 blk
53% fgs | 48% 3fgs (2.7)
https://twitter.com/LakersLegacyPod/status/1885021095662936246

That’s very useful for the regular season

Ideally you don’t want AD missing games in the playoffs though, we’d be toast otherwise
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:11 pm    Post subject:

alleyoop wrote:
MJST wrote:
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What does Rui Hachimura even do for this team?

Well, whenever LeBron or AD are out-

He steps up as LA’s only Scoring Punch at Forward.

In 6 gms w/o AD in 23-24:

21.2 pts | 7.7 reb | 2.2 asts | 1 blk
53% fgs | 48% 3fgs (2.7)
https://twitter.com/LakersLegacyPod/status/1885021095662936246

That’s very useful for the regular season

Ideally you don’t want AD missing games in the playoffs though, we’d be toast otherwise


That's why he is ideal off the bench if one of Lebron and AD is not on the floor, coz he can provide the scoring. As a starter, he is relegated to 4th to 5th option.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:15 am    Post subject:

leking006 wrote:
alleyoop wrote:
MJST wrote:
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What does Rui Hachimura even do for this team?

Well, whenever LeBron or AD are out-

He steps up as LA’s only Scoring Punch at Forward.

In 6 gms w/o AD in 23-24:

21.2 pts | 7.7 reb | 2.2 asts | 1 blk
53% fgs | 48% 3fgs (2.7)
https://twitter.com/LakersLegacyPod/status/1885021095662936246

That’s very useful for the regular season

Ideally you don’t want AD missing games in the playoffs though, we’d be toast otherwise


That's why he is ideal off the bench if one of Lebron and AD is not on the floor, coz he can provide the scoring. As a starter, he is relegated to 4th to 5th option.

Yep agree

Still think extra size would be more valuable over Rui, but in a world where he doesn’t get traded, making him 6th man still makes the most sense to maximise his strengths
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 12:29 am    Post subject:

alleyoop wrote:
leking006 wrote:
alleyoop wrote:
MJST wrote:
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What does Rui Hachimura even do for this team?

Well, whenever LeBron or AD are out-

He steps up as LA’s only Scoring Punch at Forward.

In 6 gms w/o AD in 23-24:

21.2 pts | 7.7 reb | 2.2 asts | 1 blk
53% fgs | 48% 3fgs (2.7)
https://twitter.com/LakersLegacyPod/status/1885021095662936246

That’s very useful for the regular season

Ideally you don’t want AD missing games in the playoffs though, we’d be toast otherwise


That's why he is ideal off the bench if one of Lebron and AD is not on the floor, coz he can provide the scoring. As a starter, he is relegated to 4th to 5th option.

Yep agree

Still think extra size would be more valuable over Rui, but in a world where he doesn’t get traded, making him 6th man still makes the most sense to maximise his strengths


And with that there will be always 3 scorers inside the court. Unlike the current rotation when Both rui and ad are on the bench. That leaves just Bron and AR to carry the scoring.

If he is off the bench, once Bron sits in the midde of the 1st he can go in and instantly he can be the 2nd or 3rd option. Then when AD goes out Lebron goes in. Then wehn AR goes out, AD goes in.

With this rotation, their will always be 3 scorers on the court partner with the good defenders.

Rotation of 3 scorers, plus rotation of defenders (DFS, Vando, Gabe, Max).

With this their will always a good mix of offense and defense.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:29 am    Post subject:

people want rui traded but i still say. Gunner off the bench.

Rui could be huge in a playoff series for us. He's capable of going off. Shouldn't trade someone like that unless we get noticeably better in a trade.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:55 am    Post subject:

Oh you love Rui again?

keep it positive
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:51 am    Post subject:

TMG wrote:
people want rui traded but i still say. Gunner off the bench.

Rui could be huge in a playoff series for us. He's capable of going off. Shouldn't trade someone like that unless we get noticeably better in a trade.


He can’t be a gunner when he does not have the handle to get wherever he wants to go nor the creativity to get whatever shots he wants. He does not have that offensive repertoire . He’s at his best when he get an open shot from defense collapsing on someone else.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:55 pm    Post subject:

defense wrote:
Oh you love Rui again?

keep it positive


LOL I still want him to be traded, but if not should be off the bench.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:23 pm    Post subject:

CRoost wrote:
TMG wrote:
people want rui traded but i still say. Gunner off the bench.

Rui could be huge in a playoff series for us. He's capable of going off. Shouldn't trade someone like that unless we get noticeably better in a trade.


He can’t be a gunner when he does not have the handle to get wherever he wants to go nor the creativity to get whatever shots he wants. He does not have that offensive repertoire . He’s at his best when he get an open shot from defense collapsing on someone else.


Operation get back Malik Monk.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:30 pm    Post subject:

TMG wrote:
CRoost wrote:
TMG wrote:
people want rui traded but i still say. Gunner off the bench.

Rui could be huge in a playoff series for us. He's capable of going off. Shouldn't trade someone like that unless we get noticeably better in a trade.


He can’t be a gunner when he does not have the handle to get wherever he wants to go nor the creativity to get whatever shots he wants. He does not have that offensive repertoire . He’s at his best when he get an open shot from defense collapsing on someone else.


Operation get back Malik Monk.

Monk would require Knecht, but in a vacuum I’d do him + Rui for Monk

Problem is, we need size
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 11:43 pm    Post subject:

CRoost wrote:
TMG wrote:
people want rui traded but i still say. Gunner off the bench.

Rui could be huge in a playoff series for us. He's capable of going off. Shouldn't trade someone like that unless we get noticeably better in a trade.


He can’t be a gunner when he does not have the handle to get wherever he wants to go nor the creativity to get whatever shots he wants. He does not have that offensive repertoire . He’s at his best when he get an open shot from defense collapsing on someone else.

thank you
I like Rui, but if we're being honest he's a situational ~MLE player getting paid $17M. He certainly has skills, but he's a weird fit in the modern NBA on both sides of the floor
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:16 pm    Post subject:

The Rui slander needs to stop. He steps up every time we need him in big games.

I'll gladly take him and his "neutral" value over some random backup Center
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:17 pm    Post subject:

Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
The Rui slander needs to stop. He steps up every time we need him in big games.

I'll gladly take him and his "neutral" value over some random backup Center

We can give up rui, but it better be someone really good. Otherwise let’s keep him. Our defense is build on switching, and have multiple big forwards always helps


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:23 pm    Post subject:

21 points on 12 shots. Nice contributions here. Seems like he can exploit mismatches pretty well. Playing without AD, we need him to be more aggressive and score a lot. He's done pretty well so far. Would love to see more and continued aggressiveness from him on that front, as I think everyone here would love to see, too.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:26 pm    Post subject:

Kobe_Is_King13 wrote:
The Rui slander needs to stop. He steps up every time we need him in big games.

I'll gladly take him and his "neutral" value over some random backup Center


He didn't step up in the playoffs last year, not even close.

He has strung a couple nice games lately when we needed him. I wish he could rebound a little since he's taking up a forward slot, but he's scoring well these last few games and his scoring punch has come in handy.

I do like the idea of him playing off the bench, particularly if/when we get AD back.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:27 pm    Post subject:

That blocked shot had me amped
I just stare at the 3 rebounds in 38 minutes and know in my bones that he's the one rotation player where upgrading on him (Myles Turner) would really set us over the top. Which sucks because I really like Rui
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:34 pm    Post subject:

21 points +13 tonight… Stepping up without AD.

You trade him for a better player not for a back up. Specially if you are attaching FRPs.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:25 pm    Post subject:

Love what Rui has been doing but he's gone for a center with this current roster.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:40 am    Post subject:

fansincemagic wrote:
Love what Rui has been doing but he's gone for a center with this current roster.


Kinda hope not. His age fits with Luka. Trading him to try to salvage a playoff run this season doesn’t feel like the right move to me, unless we get a home run trade for him. Vuc or something similar doesn’t come close.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:02 am    Post subject:

mhan00 wrote:
fansincemagic wrote:
Love what Rui has been doing but he's gone for a center with this current roster.


Kinda hope not. His age fits with Luka. Trading him to try to salvage a playoff run this season doesn’t feel like the right move to me, unless we get a home run trade for him. Vuc or something similar doesn’t come close.


Agreed. Just punt this season with a patch work of meh centers. Maybe christian makes it back sooner than later.

I want to see what we have first. This isn't about lebron anymore. He had his chance to bail out. He chose to stay with luka and have some fun.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 6:31 am    Post subject:

If they don't trade Rui I would swap him and Vando in the starting lineup. They have enough offense with Luka/Lebron/AR.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:20 pm    Post subject:

I wonder does the Luka trade make him available? I doubt it. This front office treats him like he is baby Kawhi.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 12:27 pm    Post subject:

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If they don't trade Rui I would swap him and Vando in the starting lineup. They have enough offense with Luka/Lebron/AR.


The right move is going to be moving AR to the bench to lead the second unit. AR/Luka/LeBron is defensive suicide, but AR would destroy other teams' backups.

Rui will likely get flipped for 1-2 pieces that come off the bench, and maybe have expiring deals.... But I think we're headed towards this lineup...

Luka Doncic / Austin Reaves
Gabe Vincent / [Trade Acquisition]
Dorian Finney-Smith / Dalton Knecht
LeBron James / Jarred Vanderbilt
[Trade Acquisition ] / Jaxson Hayes

If we're really lucky, we'll be able to flip Kleber for someone who can contribute this season.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:35 pm    Post subject:

Big Shot Bob wrote:
Dominator wrote:
If they don't trade Rui I would swap him and Vando in the starting lineup. They have enough offense with Luka/Lebron/AR.


The right move is going to be moving AR to the bench to lead the second unit. AR/Luka/LeBron is defensive suicide, but AR would destroy other teams' backups.

Rui will likely get flipped for 1-2 pieces that come off the bench, and maybe have expiring deals.... But I think we're headed towards this lineup...

Luka Doncic / Austin Reaves
Gabe Vincent / [Trade Acquisition]
Dorian Finney-Smith / Dalton Knecht
LeBron James / Jarred Vanderbilt
[Trade Acquisition ] / Jaxson Hayes

If we're really lucky, we'll be able to flip Kleber for someone who can contribute this season.


Nice thinking.
Small note: Gabe is adequate for now but they should aspire to get a better 3&D guard to start, someone similar to Christie. Tough, I know, but maybe they find one in the draft to grow behind Gabe.
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