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fansincemagic
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| Though I'm operating like hot hand Rui is the guy that gets dealt for a big, this would be a deep team outside of 5 if not. Bare minimum they need to deal a 2nd to rid themselves of Kieff or Wood to free up a spot for Bamba or another waived vet below the MLE. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | Though I'm operating like hot hand Rui is the guy that gets dealt for a big, this would be a deep team outside of 5 if not. Bare minimum they need to deal a 2nd to rid themselves of Kieff or Wood to free up a spot for Bamba or another waived vet below the MLE. |
He's the only one that makes sense. Even hypothetical deals involving Gabe doesn't make sense to me at this point. You need Gabe's perimeter D more than ever now that Max is gone. We are deep at forwards... DFS and Vando are defensive energies, then you got Bron. Rui is the only one that makes sense to let go for a quality big. |
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LukaDoncic
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I know we include him in trade scenarios, but with Luka and Lebron, Rui is going to be Memphis playoff series Rui a lot if we don't trade him.
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Another 20pts 50% performance +15....
Dude is such a compliment scorer out there... Why trade him? |
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MJST
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:44 pm Post subject: |
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Rui is a consistent 20 ppg scorer when AD or LeBron is out. That continues.
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miggz23
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | Rui is a consistent 20 ppg scorer when AD or LeBron is out. That continues. |
And he's doing most of that off the ball... Spot up, Cutting baseline. Exactly who you want next to Lebron and Luka. |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Interested to see him next to Luka. I think his shot volume will go up with Luka, a playmaker, as the 2nd option
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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| After today's game I'm re-thinking my stance on Rui. Good game tonight. Real good. |
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lakersboy
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| TooMuchMajicBuss wrote: | | After today's game I'm re-thinking my stance on Rui. |
I’m reading that elsewhere also. |
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leking006
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So Rui needs to be the 3rd option to be effective? So if Luka will be inserted in the stsrting lineup, he gonna be 4th option again. Maybe AR should be off the bench. AR/Luka/Bron will have redundancy, 3 players who needed the ball, can create their own shots and give dimes. 1 of them should be off the bench as an anchor, and obviously it's AR.
Hayes
Bron
Rui
DFS
Luka
Bench:
AR (Playmaker off the bench)
Vando (POA defender)
Gabe (3&D Guard defender)
DK4 (Backup to Rui as scorer)
This is already a solid 9-man rotation in the playoffs. Can be better if they can get a solid center like Turner or Kessler. |
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Kblo247!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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| leking006 wrote: | So Rui needs to be the 3rd option to be effective? So if Luka will be inserted in the stsrting lineup, he gonna be 4th option again. Maybe AR should be off the bench. AR/Luka/Bron will have redundancy, 3 players who needed the ball, can create their own shots and give dimes. 1 of them should be off the bench as an anchor, and obviously it's AR.
Hayes
Bron
Rui
DFS
Luka
Bench:
AR (Playmaker off the bench)
Vando (POA defender)
Gabe (3&D Guard defender)
DK4 (Backup to Rui as scorer)
This is already a solid 9-man rotation in the playoffs. Can be better if they can get a solid center like Turner or Kessler. |
Luka Kyrie
Luka Brunson
Luka Spencer
None have had redundancy so Luka Reaves won’t either |
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leking006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | So Rui needs to be the 3rd option to be effective? So if Luka will be inserted in the stsrting lineup, he gonna be 4th option again. Maybe AR should be off the bench. AR/Luka/Bron will have redundancy, 3 players who needed the ball, can create their own shots and give dimes. 1 of them should be off the bench as an anchor, and obviously it's AR.
Hayes
Bron
Rui
DFS
Luka
Bench:
AR (Playmaker off the bench)
Vando (POA defender)
Gabe (3&D Guard defender)
DK4 (Backup to Rui as scorer)
This is already a solid 9-man rotation in the playoffs. Can be better if they can get a solid center like Turner or Kessler. |
Luka Kyrie
Luka Brunson
Luka Spencer
None have had redundancy so Luka Reaves won’t either |
3 of them at the same time on the court?
That's what I mean of redundncy. 2 of them on the court is ok, but 3 of them?
Should always have 2 of the combination of them on the court
Luka/Bron @ Start of 1st q and Start of 3rd q
Luka/AR @ Mid 1st q and Mid 3rd q
Bron/AR @ Start of 2nd and Start of 4th q
Closing lineup is up for grabs lol
Imagine teams getting attack by that combination the whole game?
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Kblo247!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| leking006 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | So Rui needs to be the 3rd option to be effective? So if Luka will be inserted in the stsrting lineup, he gonna be 4th option again. Maybe AR should be off the bench. AR/Luka/Bron will have redundancy, 3 players who needed the ball, can create their own shots and give dimes. 1 of them should be off the bench as an anchor, and obviously it's AR.
Hayes
Bron
Rui
DFS
Luka
Bench:
AR (Playmaker off the bench)
Vando (POA defender)
Gabe (3&D Guard defender)
DK4 (Backup to Rui as scorer)
This is already a solid 9-man rotation in the playoffs. Can be better if they can get a solid center like Turner or Kessler. |
Luka Kyrie
Luka Brunson
Luka Spencer
None have had redundancy so Luka Reaves won’t either |
3 of them at the same time on the court?
That's what I mean of redundncy. 2 of them on the court is ok, but 3 of them? |
Luka Brunson Spencer DFS Powell made the wcf starting together I mean Luka Reaves Bron Rui can beat that |
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leking006
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | So Rui needs to be the 3rd option to be effective? So if Luka will be inserted in the stsrting lineup, he gonna be 4th option again. Maybe AR should be off the bench. AR/Luka/Bron will have redundancy, 3 players who needed the ball, can create their own shots and give dimes. 1 of them should be off the bench as an anchor, and obviously it's AR.
Hayes
Bron
Rui
DFS
Luka
Bench:
AR (Playmaker off the bench)
Vando (POA defender)
Gabe (3&D Guard defender)
DK4 (Backup to Rui as scorer)
This is already a solid 9-man rotation in the playoffs. Can be better if they can get a solid center like Turner or Kessler. |
Luka Kyrie
Luka Brunson
Luka Spencer
None have had redundancy so Luka Reaves won’t either |
3 of them at the same time on the court?
That's what I mean of redundncy. 2 of them on the court is ok, but 3 of them? |
Luka Brunson Spencer DFS Powell made the wcf starting together I mean Luka Reaves Bron Rui can beat that |
so who do yout think will cut in thar starting 5? Rui, dfs or hayes? |
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Palin
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Luka-Bron-Reaves-Playoff Rui gonna outscore everybody. |
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leking006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Palin wrote: | | Luka-Bron-Reaves-Playoff Rui gonna outscore everybody. |
Abandon the defense? |
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Kblo247!
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| leking006 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | So Rui needs to be the 3rd option to be effective? So if Luka will be inserted in the stsrting lineup, he gonna be 4th option again. Maybe AR should be off the bench. AR/Luka/Bron will have redundancy, 3 players who needed the ball, can create their own shots and give dimes. 1 of them should be off the bench as an anchor, and obviously it's AR.
Hayes
Bron
Rui
DFS
Luka
Bench:
AR (Playmaker off the bench)
Vando (POA defender)
Gabe (3&D Guard defender)
DK4 (Backup to Rui as scorer)
This is already a solid 9-man rotation in the playoffs. Can be better if they can get a solid center like Turner or Kessler. |
Luka Kyrie
Luka Brunson
Luka Spencer
None have had redundancy so Luka Reaves won’t either |
3 of them at the same time on the court?
That's what I mean of redundncy. 2 of them on the court is ok, but 3 of them? |
Luka Brunson Spencer DFS Powell made the wcf starting together I mean Luka Reaves Bron Rui can beat that |
so who do yout think will cut in thar starting 5? Rui, dfs or hayes? |
If there is no trade for a center I think you do
Luka
Reaves
Bron
Rui
Hayes
* Hayes starts like Javale did. Then DFS comes in quick, and he makes the most sense as sixth man for me because he can fill in for any of em. Then you go off the bench
Gabe
Vando
Dalton
There would never be a point in a game where Bron, Luka, or Reaves isn’t out there.
Then you just need a center, which is wh6 it’s bad Kleiber is hurt. Wood hasn’t returned still. So I think they find another 5 imo be it Mo Bamba or
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Kblo247!
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| leking006 wrote: | | Palin wrote: | | Luka-Bron-Reaves-Playoff Rui gonna outscore everybody. |
Abandon the defense? |
Right now they all seem to be playoff some just because they aren’t relying on oh well AD will do it |
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | So Rui needs to be the 3rd option to be effective? So if Luka will be inserted in the stsrting lineup, he gonna be 4th option again. Maybe AR should be off the bench. AR/Luka/Bron will have redundancy, 3 players who needed the ball, can create their own shots and give dimes. 1 of them should be off the bench as an anchor, and obviously it's AR.
Hayes
Bron
Rui
DFS
Luka
Bench:
AR (Playmaker off the bench)
Vando (POA defender)
Gabe (3&D Guard defender)
DK4 (Backup to Rui as scorer)
This is already a solid 9-man rotation in the playoffs. Can be better if they can get a solid center like Turner or Kessler. |
Luka Kyrie
Luka Brunson
Luka Spencer
None have had redundancy so Luka Reaves won’t either |
3 of them at the same time on the court?
That's what I mean of redundncy. 2 of them on the court is ok, but 3 of them? |
Luka Brunson Spencer DFS Powell made the wcf starting together I mean Luka Reaves Bron Rui can beat that |
so who do yout think will cut in thar starting 5? Rui, dfs or hayes? |
If there is no trade for a center I think you do
Luka
Reaves
Bron
Rui
Hayes
* Hayes starts like Javale did. Then DFS comes in quick, and he makes the most sense as sixth man for me because he can fill in for any of em. Then you go off the bench
Gabe
Vando
Dalton
There would never be a point in a game where Bron, Luka, or Reaves isn’t out there.
Then you just need a center, which is wh6 it’s bad Kleiber is hurt. Wood hasn’t returned still. So I think they find another 5 imo be it Mo Bamba or
Nit |
That's unnecessary defensive suicide with that starting lineup imo.
Make AR the best 6th man in basketball and absolutely start DFS to give us MUCH needed versatile defense and a sniper you can't leave on offense. Depending how things shake out I can see Rui or Vando in that final spot but i'd really love to see if Vando could work because him and DFS put in some defensive work when out there together.
I do agree we need another Center though regardless of course. |
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leking006
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| Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | leking006 wrote: | So Rui needs to be the 3rd option to be effective? So if Luka will be inserted in the stsrting lineup, he gonna be 4th option again. Maybe AR should be off the bench. AR/Luka/Bron will have redundancy, 3 players who needed the ball, can create their own shots and give dimes. 1 of them should be off the bench as an anchor, and obviously it's AR.
Hayes
Bron
Rui
DFS
Luka
Bench:
AR (Playmaker off the bench)
Vando (POA defender)
Gabe (3&D Guard defender)
DK4 (Backup to Rui as scorer)
This is already a solid 9-man rotation in the playoffs. Can be better if they can get a solid center like Turner or Kessler. |
Luka Kyrie
Luka Brunson
Luka Spencer
None have had redundancy so Luka Reaves won’t either |
3 of them at the same time on the court?
That's what I mean of redundncy. 2 of them on the court is ok, but 3 of them? |
Luka Brunson Spencer DFS Powell made the wcf starting together I mean Luka Reaves Bron Rui can beat that |
so who do yout think will cut in thar starting 5? Rui, dfs or hayes? |
If there is no trade for a center I think you do
Luka
Reaves
Bron
Rui
Hayes
* Hayes starts like Javale did. Then DFS comes in quick, and he makes the most sense as sixth man for me because he can fill in for any of em. Then you go off the bench
Gabe
Vando
Dalton
There would never be a point in a game where Bron, Luka, or Reaves isn’t out there.
Then you just need a center, which is wh6 it’s bad Kleiber is hurt. Wood hasn’t returned still. So I think they find another 5 imo be it Mo Bamba or
Nit |
looks good but need to see if how their defense with this group. Imagine Bron/Luka/Jokic constantly attacking Jokic on PNR almost the whole game. That will be a nightmare for him defensively. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Very good game by Rui. His shot has been automatic the whole season, but I also liked his engagement on defense. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 2:00 am Post subject: |
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| Rui has been much more effective next to Vando/DFS. I would hold off on a trade until we see him in a playoff run with Luka Brasi. |
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TooMuchMajicBuss
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| Nobody wrote: | | Very good game by Rui. His shot has been automatic the whole season, but I also liked his engagement on defense. |
This is what gives me second thoughts on pushing for a Rui trade, I thought he played some pretty well integrated defense alongside his teammates tonight and they were pretty plugged in as to not give the Clippers any breathing room, particularly Zu in his case.
Also - I've been frustrated at his rebounding, but tonight hints that perhaps he deferred to AD a bit much, which is different than being unwilling to grab boards. Time will tell but again his performance tonight was very impressive. |
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Again you do NOT trade Rui unless it's for someone that can do what he can and is a better defender.
And I'll tell you, that doesn't grow on trees in the NBA.
Sometimes you want to have it all, but 'all' ain't available. Especially at the cost.
You likely aren't gonna find an athletic young 12-15ppg 4th option that averages 20+ when stars are out and shoots 40+% from three all at the same time.
They just don't come around often and if a team has that they HOLD ONTO THEM LIKE NO TOMORROW, so I'd say keeping what we have is likely our best option right now.
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I think this roster is close to complete. I have a feeling Luka will make Hayes look just as good as gafford/lively. If he keeps playing defense the way he has been and runs the floor hard and catches those lobs Luka is gonna throw we will be happy with him. He will never be a great rebounder or shot blocker but idk if we need that. He just needs to be able to box out the other teams big man so Luka/lebron can come snatch the board.
I think people think rui can only score as a 3rd option and I think it has more to do with the pace they have been playing it. Rui runs the floor hard, he cuts to the basket, he thrives in a more uptempo offense. I think we played a little slower with AD.
I wouldn’t trade Rui or reaves, or Gabe.
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