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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:01 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
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https://twitter.com/nicoleganglani/status/1665758004929495051?s=46&t=YQnZyfnx7VlfNBbYDR3Cxg

Michael Malone this morning lol




I think Malone’s whining is annoying, but the man has a point. I find it lame that LeBron and Kyrie can’t let the Finals play out without making it about themselves all the time. As if they don’t get enough attention.


Yeah have to wonder if it’s on purpose at this point lol.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:39 am    Post subject:

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Spoelstra goes hard at Ramona: https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1665554522545029122

More of this please.


Yes! I really hate all of the efforts to make some simplistic cookie cutter conclusion.

The same thing happened in the Lakers series when Jokic had a quiet 4th quarter and the media rushed to say that Rui was the Jokic stopper. It’s unfair to both players to do that stuff and it also sets Spoelstra up for future bulletin board material if he doesn’t shut the question down like this.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 10:55 am    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
Lakesh0wtime wrote:
https://twitter.com/nicoleganglani/status/1665758004929495051?s=46&t=YQnZyfnx7VlfNBbYDR3Cxg

Michael Malone this morning lol




I think Malone’s whining is annoying, but the man has a point. I find it lame that LeBron and Kyrie can’t let the Finals play out without making it about themselves all the time. As if they don’t get enough attention.


That is what narcissists do
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:31 pm    Post subject:

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I still don't get how we couldn't win at least one game vs the Nuggets. The Heat are not as good as us.


Not overall but they have shooters, who all made shots last night. Unfortunately in todays NBA…whoever makes more 3s most times will be the victor, any advantage elsewhere can be negated simply by a couple of role players having a good shooting night.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:46 pm    Post subject:

troy wrote:
I still don't get how we couldn't win at least one game vs the Nuggets. The Heat are not as good as us.


Game 2 and 4 were definitely there for the taking for the Lakers. Could have easily been 2-2 series but it just came down to the luck of the roll in these games. Denver could have easily been up 2-0 on the Heat right now.

It's something called RNG (randomness), something that nobody could control. A team could control its gameplan and execution but it cannot control the randomness of the flight and bounce of the ball.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:07 pm    Post subject:

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troy wrote:
I still don't get how we couldn't win at least one game vs the Nuggets. The Heat are not as good as us.


Game 2 and 4 were definitely there for the taking for the Lakers. Could have easily been 2-2 series but it just came down to the luck of the roll in these games. Denver could have easily been up 2-0 on the Heat right now.

It's something called RNG (randomness), something that nobody could control. A team could control its gameplan and execution but it cannot control the randomness of the flight and bounce of the ball.


Although I am admittedly oversimplifying, you could look at this one stat and it can be argued to answer all:

Miami shot 17-35 from 3 (48.6%); whereas Nugs shot 11-28 (39.3%).

Game decided by 3 points, took Miami shooting out of this world from 3. Nugs also beefed up their 3 point shooting with that run towards end of 4th.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:52 pm    Post subject:

Underrated Finals matchup.
I’m enjoying every minute.

Both the heat and nuggets have the bad memory of getting bulldozed by the 2020 Lakers.


Hope it goes 7 games.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:02 pm    Post subject:

Heat point differential through 20 playoff games.
1st quarter: -1
2nd quarter: -11
3rd quarter: -12
4th quarter: +90

https://go.nba.com/1vl1p

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:34 pm    Post subject:

Erik Spoelstra pushes all the right buttons | NBA Finals Game 2 analysis:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:28 pm    Post subject:

https://denversports.com/2105518/unfortunately-tv-ratings-fell-significantly-for-game-1-of-nba-finals/

Ratings down as expected
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:47 pm    Post subject:

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https://denversports.com/2105518/unfortunately-tv-ratings-fell-significantly-for-game-1-of-nba-finals/

Ratings down as expected


On the bright side, this is definitive proof the NBA isn't rigged.

They had a record setting viewing bonanza on the table and they didn't make it happen.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:38 pm    Post subject:

Treble Clef wrote:
Denny_Russo wrote:
Spoelstra goes hard at Ramona: https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1665554522545029122

More of this please.


Yes! I really hate all of the efforts to make some simplistic cookie cutter conclusion.

The same thing happened in the Lakers series when Jokic had a quiet 4th quarter and the media rushed to say that Rui was the Jokic stopper. It’s unfair to both players to do that stuff and it also sets Spoelstra up for future bulletin board material if he doesn’t shut the question down like this.


Well it was pretty interesting to see Steve Kerr on the Draymond Green show after game two. Kerr watched the game and Green brought up Jokic only had four assists and Kerr said exactly what Ramona did, that the Heat decided to make Jokic a scorer and that they decided that Murray is the head of the snake that they need to try and limit him because it's too difficult to stop Jokic.

I agree that Spo shut it down because he doesn't want bulletin board material but he was wrong, or he was lying, saying only an untrained eye would say that because Kerr said it too.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:09 pm    Post subject:

Looks like the Heat better win or else the city will face a double dose of misery in sports.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:35 am    Post subject:

Gonna need all you untrained eyes to shut it and sit back and watch as the Heat win the championship. The leadership of Pat Riley Jr will prevail.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:24 pm    Post subject:

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Gonna need all you untrained eyes to shut it and sit back and watch as the Heat win the championship. The leadership of Pat Riley Jr will prevail.



nahh …Riles has his faults like running his teams into the ground.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:43 pm    Post subject:

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Gonna need all you untrained eyes to shut it and sit back and watch as the Heat win the championship. The leadership of Pat Riley Jr will prevail.



I'm not on board for giving Riley that much credit. But I've been betting Heat all playoffs. And I've made alot of $.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 5:54 pm    Post subject:

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Miami won't pull this off. Denver is much more talented. But I'll be rooting for the Heat and hoping for a miracle. Nuggets had huge breakdowns on defense leaving 3pt shooters wide open and fouling 3 pt shooters. And the Heat caught them off guard playing with more force to start the game than they had in the last game. That bad start and the really bad defensive breakdowns cost them the game. Nuggets will correct those things. KCP was really bad in this game too. He has been playing so well for them.


The most talented team doesn't always win. Sometimes the team that wants it more does. The Heat may want it more. Miami has been underdogs since the season began. Not many expected them to come this far. I didn't. I'm not counting them out till a closeout game calls it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:06 pm    Post subject:

Apparently game 2 ratings same as last year's game 2: https://twitter.com/ben_espn/status/1666101375934013441?s=46&t=ISvVKisvPlEqxJaZX4He8g

People are watching. This series is getting interesting.

And game 3 is so vital that the winner goes on to win the championship 80% of the time:

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Another fun fact: When the NBA Finals are tied 1-1, the team that wins Game 3 goes on to win the title 80% of the time (32-8 series record), according to ESPN Stats & Info. That trend hasn't held up recently, though, as Game 3 winners have a 4-4 series record since the 2010 Finals.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:16 pm    Post subject:

Denny_Russo wrote:
Apparently game 2 ratings same as last year's game 2: https://twitter.com/ben_espn/status/1666101375934013441?s=46&t=ISvVKisvPlEqxJaZX4He8g

People are watching. This series is getting interesting.

And game 3 is so vital that the winner goes on to win the championship 80% of the time:

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Another fun fact: When the NBA Finals are tied 1-1, the team that wins Game 3 goes on to win the title 80% of the time (32-8 series record), according to ESPN Stats & Info. That trend hasn't held up recently, though, as Game 3 winners have a 4-4 series record since the 2010 Finals.


Ya, I saw that too.
I wish we were in the Finals right now. On the verge of winning another chip.

But this Finals is actually more enjoyable for me to watch than last years. Last year, I was worried about Boston winning a chip and pulling ahead of us on the championship count.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:23 pm    Post subject:

It does feel like game 3 is huge for both, I do think the winner takes the series
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:59 pm    Post subject:

I still feel like Denver is gonna blow heat out. I would love to be wrong tho
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:47 pm    Post subject:

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It does feel like game 3 is huge for both, I do think the winner takes the series


Any other team besides the Heat, I would agree.
I think you have to throw away the rule book when it comes to them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:10 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Heat point differential through 20 playoff games.
1st quarter: -1
2nd quarter: -11
3rd quarter: -12
4th quarter: +90

https://go.nba.com/1vl1p


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:29 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Heat point differential through 20 playoff games.
1st quarter: -1
2nd quarter: -11
3rd quarter: -12
4th quarter: +90

https://go.nba.com/1vl1p


Spo is the most underrated coach in the NBA.


How do you rank Popovich, Spoelstra, Lue, Nurse, Mike Malone, Rick Carslisle, and Mike Brown?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 8:37 pm    Post subject:

Ziggy wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Heat point differential through 20 playoff games.
1st quarter: -1
2nd quarter: -11
3rd quarter: -12
4th quarter: +90

https://go.nba.com/1vl1p


Spo is the most underrated coach in the NBA.


That stat tells me 1 thing for sure.

Cardio.

Look at Udonis Haslem. Older than dirt. Less than 10% body fat.
Paul George did a podcast recently. Said the majority of players in the league are just good at basketball. But they don't love ball. It's just a job. That's why some players last with the Heat and some don't. To make it there, basketball has to be more than just a job.
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