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Castleton balled out tonight!! 
17 pts, 12 rbs, 6 ast. Double-dub! |
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| Castleton is decent. They should give him some time. Every king needs a castle. |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| defense wrote: | | Castleton is decent. They should give him some time. Every king needs a castle. |
And a Knecht
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| Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Castleton is decent. They should give him some time. Every king needs a castle. |
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oh my at both of these posts  |
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I think he should be upgraded from his two-way. I wouldn’t mind him over Hayes tbh
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| Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Another good game and all around effort by Castleton! |
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Hayes had a few decent games and if he learns how to rebound, he'll be a good backup. Castleton has no defense and is no force under the basket. He's getting blocked a lot and can't finish with authority
He'll never be an NBA level player (he's 24)
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Imo, he's a poor man's version of Jokic. If he's on the court with more supportive players, like AD, he's going to perform a lot better, and he'll take assignments AD doesn't want. I think we'll be surprised at the results. He's a good rebounder and passer too, something we'll see when he plays with guys who can consistently make shots.
The Lakers need to develop what they have and stop giving up on young talent too soon. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 3:44 am Post subject: |
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| Despite his obvious flaws, Castleton has the ability. He needs more work and experience in the G-League but he's coming along nicely |
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| lakersboy wrote: | Imo, he's a poor man's version of Jokic. If he's on the court with more supportive players, like AD, he's going to perform a lot better, and he'll take assignments AD doesn't want. I think we'll be surprised at the results. He's a good rebounder and passer too, something we'll see when he plays with guys who can consistently make shots.
The Lakers need to develop what they have and stop giving up on young talent too soon. |
Poverty Jokic, at best. I like Castleton a lot. But he looks like a stick. One thing Jokic has never struggled with in his time in the NBA has been his heft and ability to use said heft to back down and score in the paint easily against anyone. And that also fuels and enhances his insane court vision and passing. Castleton has had trouble generating shots against SL guys.
Castleton can play, but there are real questions about his ability to hang with NBA size and athleticism. I hope he gets a chance to prove himself this season. |
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Kinda similar game to Woods but Wood still better
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| Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:53 am Post subject: |
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Yea I wish Castleton put on like 10 lbs of muscle  |
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| tox wrote: | | Yea I wish Castleton put on like 10 lbs of muscle |
Well yeah you know it's not like it's impossible. Look at how much Steph has changed his body over the last several years. Colin just needs to put in that kind of work.
You can do it Cassy! |
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| TDRock wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Yea I wish Castleton put on like 10 lbs of muscle |
Well yeah you know it's not like it's impossible. Look at how much Steph has changed his body over the last several years. Colin just needs to put in that kind of work.
You can do it Cassy! |
and if he could only elevate, , that would be nice...
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| TDRock wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Yea I wish Castleton put on like 10 lbs of muscle |
Well yeah you know it's not like it's impossible. Look at how much Steph has changed his body over the last several years. Colin just needs to put in that kind of work.
You can do it Cassy! |
I have zero hope given he had a year to do it and looks exactly the same, physically speaking. I know Christie was way younger but you can see how he put a lot of weight on. |
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Castleton has soft hands and he's not actually weak. However, his lack
rim protection is of concern at the next level.
Sometimes I wonder how he would look at PF? Ala; Olynyk...too slow?
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| deal wrote: | Castleton has soft hands and he's not actually weak. However, his lack
rim protection is of concern at the next level.
Sometimes I wonder how he would look at PF? Ala; Olynyk...too slow? |
I thought the same thing last night watching him shoot and the way he plays...
he's too thin to bang with the bigger centers, but maybe as a power 4 with occasional center minutes that are matchup dependent
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| matigol wrote: | Hayes had a few decent games and if he learns how to rebound, he'll be a good backup. Castleton has no defense and is no force under the basket. He's getting blocked a lot and can't finish with authority
He'll never be an NBA level player (he's 24) |
Hayes has needed to learn to rebound since he came in the league. Years later, he needs to learn to rebound. |
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| tox wrote: | | TDRock wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Yea I wish Castleton put on like 10 lbs of muscle |
Well yeah you know it's not like it's impossible. Look at how much Steph has changed his body over the last several years. Colin just needs to put in that kind of work.
You can do it Cassy! |
I have zero hope given he had a year to do it and looks exactly the same, physically speaking. I know Christie was way younger but you can see how he put a lot of weight on. |
Exactly. I was eager to see him come back this year a bit more hefty and defined. He's a grown a_s man.
Maybe he lacks the ability to put on and add weight, but I'd sure like to see what a heavier version of him could do. |
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The 2 year max on 2-ways is too short. Castleton looks like a teenager still. There's zero chance he'll be where he needs to be physically by the end of the season to invest in him with a full contract. He hasn't even started putting on his post-teen muscles yet.
He'll get a 2nd 2-way from another team and start putting on muscle. Then everyone will be saying he could be an end of the bench guy and we dumped him too early when in reality it was NBA contract or let him walk this summer. |
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | The 2 year max on 2-ways is too short. Castleton looks like a teenager still. There's zero chance he'll be where he needs to be physically by the end of the season to invest in him with a full contract. He hasn't even started putting on his post-teen muscles yet.
He'll get a 2nd 2-way from another team and start putting on muscle. Then everyone will be saying he could be an end of the bench guy and we dumped him too early when in reality it was NBA contract or let him walk this summer. |
That is where you have to trust your FO to have player evaluation skills. If a player has the talent but needs more time to develop, you invest in him.
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | The 2 year max on 2-ways is too short. Castleton looks like a teenager still. There's zero chance he'll be where he needs to be physically by the end of the season to invest in him with a full contract. He hasn't even started putting on his post-teen muscles yet.
He'll get a 2nd 2-way from another team and start putting on muscle. Then everyone will be saying he could be an end of the bench guy and we dumped him too early when in reality it was NBA contract or let him walk this summer. |
He's already 24, you think he's gonna really keep beefing up? Maybe this is his build, I don't see a difference in the last year like I did with MaxC |
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| tox wrote: | | LakersRGolden wrote: | The 2 year max on 2-ways is too short. Castleton looks like a teenager still. There's zero chance he'll be where he needs to be physically by the end of the season to invest in him with a full contract. He hasn't even started putting on his post-teen muscles yet.
He'll get a 2nd 2-way from another team and start putting on muscle. Then everyone will be saying he could be an end of the bench guy and we dumped him too early when in reality it was NBA contract or let him walk this summer. |
He's already 24, you think he's gonna really keep beefing up? Maybe this is his build, I don't see a difference in the last year like I did with MaxC |
I forgot he's that old. I guess him putting on much more muscle is unlikely. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | LakersRGolden wrote: | The 2 year max on 2-ways is too short. Castleton looks like a teenager still. There's zero chance he'll be where he needs to be physically by the end of the season to invest in him with a full contract. He hasn't even started putting on his post-teen muscles yet.
He'll get a 2nd 2-way from another team and start putting on muscle. Then everyone will be saying he could be an end of the bench guy and we dumped him too early when in reality it was NBA contract or let him walk this summer. |
That is where you have to trust your FO to have player evaluation skills. If a player has the talent but needs more time to develop, you invest in him. |
He will get on another G League team because he performed well there. Will he develop a specific skill that will make a consistent impact games? He didn't score much, doesn't have many post move and he is not an elite defender at the 5 (not enough muscle) or at the 4 (not quick enough). Maybe he will study Drammond Green's game and be a Poor Man's version of Dray |
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