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An anti-semite and racist, you say? He'll fit right in with Lebron and 75% of the NBA. 
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| MJST wrote: | The Meyers Leonard that hard fouled Nick Young out of the air unnecessarily at the end of a game?
The Meyers Leonard that spews racist and anti-sematic slurs on his twitch?
That Meyers Leonard? You want him on the LAKERS??? |
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You could make a good argument that Jaxon Hayes off the court history is way worse than what Leonard said and the Lakers wasted no time signing Hayes.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Trevacious2 wrote: | | A fourth look at Dwight Howard? |
Looked and he's been done...no more looks, pls
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | An anti-semite and racist, you say? He'll fit right in with Lebron and 75% of the NBA. |
didn't Irving get in on that racist note a while back? I'm not big
on news but, I think i read something to that effect once upon a time.
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The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years.
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic.
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Back to the original subject...
the Lakers did work out Meyers Leonard back around Jan 14th or so (along with Cousins).
Ham was quoted as saying "they both looked great"
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35447154/lakers-work-centers-meyers-leonard-demarcus-cousins
makes you kind of wonder why they didn't sign Leonard - either back then or now..
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| Ham saying both looked great could have been out of respect so those guys can get a job somewhere else |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Ham saying both looked great could have been out of respect so those guys can get a job somewhere else |
When speaking to reporters on the record, coaches always say a player who just had a tryout looked great. Even if a player can barely walk, there's no benefit to the coach to criticize him. Ultimately, all that matters is whether the team signs the guy or not. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Ham saying both looked great could have been out of respect so those guys can get a job somewhere else |
When speaking to reporters on the record, coaches always say a player who just had a tryout looked great. Even if a player can barely walk, there's no benefit to the coach to criticize him. Ultimately, all that matters is whether the team signs the guy or not. |
Well in theory.. Ham’s diligence did work since Leonard got a job this past year haha Cousins is the tricky 1 because he just isn’t what he used to be and teams are shying away from it because of that |
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic. |
What is pathetic is trolling on the message board to create contention where there is none. You proved you could read now re-read the next part and stop acting like a cry baby troll. Here, I’ll include below for you and bold it above.
“Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes.”
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Dr. Laker
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic. |
What is pathetic is trolling on the message board to create contention where there is none. You proved you could read now re-read the next part and stop acting like a cry baby troll. Here, I’ll include below for you and bold it above.
“Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes.” |
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had a few months to look at Bamba and didn't bring him back - even at the minimum. Could it be that they know something you don't?
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic. |
What is pathetic is trolling on the message board to create contention where there is none. You proved you could read now re-read the next part and stop acting like a cry baby troll. Here, I’ll include below for you and bold it above.
“Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes.” |
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had a few months to look at Bamba and didn't bring him back - even at the minimum. Could it be that they know something you don't? |
And the rest of the centers that cane off the board? What was wrong with them?
We do this junk almost every year we wait for some stupid name player instead of moving on and just getting what we need. I thought we would have learned but nope.
Our mvp center is going to be “cost savings”. I wonder how many points and rebounds he going to get this year smh |
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I don’t remember the named player we were waiting for
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | I don’t remember the named player we were waiting for |
Some no named brain cook clone with a attitude named woods who looks like he not coming anyway. He only a star in his own mind but fans and media think we should get him anyway. Just stupidity. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Ham saying both looked great could have been out of respect so those guys can get a job somewhere else |
When speaking to reporters on the record, coaches always say a player who just had a tryout looked great. Even if a player can barely walk, there's no benefit to the coach to criticize him. Ultimately, all that matters is whether the team signs the guy or not. |
Well in theory.. Ham’s diligence did work since Leonard got a job this past year haha Cousins is the tricky 1 because he just isn’t what he used to be and teams are shying away from it because of that |
Honestly, who cares? The Lakers gave a tryout to Cousins and Leonard six months ago and decided not to sign them. Really nothing to say about either one. |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic. |
What is pathetic is trolling on the message board to create contention where there is none. You proved you could read now re-read the next part and stop acting like a cry baby troll. Here, I’ll include below for you and bold it above.
“Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes.” |
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had a few months to look at Bamba and didn't bring him back - even at the minimum. Could it be that they know something you don't? |
And the rest of the centers that cane off the board? What was wrong with them?
We do this junk almost every year we wait for some stupid name player instead of moving on and just getting what we need. I thought we would have learned but nope.
Our mvp center is going to be “cost savings”. I wonder how many points and rebounds he going to get this year smh |
AUGUST 26
. . . was the date we signed Dwight Howard in 2019.
There will be someone out there for the 14th spot.
BTW, J.O. - your posts read just like that other guy's read.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic. |
What is pathetic is trolling on the message board to create contention where there is none. You proved you could read now re-read the next part and stop acting like a cry baby troll. Here, I’ll include below for you and bold it above.
“Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes.” |
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had a few months to look at Bamba and didn't bring him back - even at the minimum. Could it be that they know something you don't? |
And the rest of the centers that cane off the board? What was wrong with them?
We do this junk almost every year we wait for some stupid name player instead of moving on and just getting what we need. I thought we would have learned but nope.
Our mvp center is going to be “cost savings”. I wonder how many points and rebounds he going to get this year smh |
AUGUST 26
. . . was the date we signed Dwight Howard in 2019.
There will be someone out there for the 14th spot.
BTW, J.O. - your posts read just like that other guy's read. |
I don’t know about another guy but I know we need a legit center preferably a spread center. Talking about referencing 2019? Smh why reference that? There were plenty of centers out there and this tunnel vision seems to happen every time we need a position filled...we had plenty of chances to fill that gap but we waiting and history has shown plenty of times this not working in our favor. You got dh? I’ll raise you camelo and cwebb and after that Yao Ming that one was a whole 2-3 year money savings excuse smh |
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic. |
What is pathetic is trolling on the message board to create contention where there is none. You proved you could read now re-read the next part and stop acting like a cry baby troll. Here, I’ll include below for you and bold it above.
“Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes.” |
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had a few months to look at Bamba and didn't bring him back - even at the minimum. Could it be that they know something you don't? |
Nah…I’m not ignoring that, it’s possible that Rob saw something…but you’re ignoring:
1-Lopez/Randle (totally blame Magic?)
2-Avery Bradley (let him go then brought him back, blame the bubble?)
3-Dwight (blame phone tag? Let go then brought him back)
4-Rondo (let him go he’s washed, oh wait, let’s bring him back)
5-Drummond (let’s start Deandre Jordan instead because?)
6-Wesley Matthews (for Bazemore/Ellington? Wes started for a ship team afterwards)
7-Caruso (started for close out game for ship but don’t want him right?)
8-Shro (reported he wanted to return for tpMLE as Westbrook’s backup, let go, brought back)
You could be right, MoBa may have been so bad at something we don’t know about that Rob figured the potential of his 3pt shooting, rebounding and shot blocking wasn’t worth the vet min.
Or
You could be in denial that it looks like Rob let another player walk (7 for vet min in 5ys: Lopez/ABrad/DwHo/ADrum/WesM/MoBa/LWIV) that the team needed just like he’s done many time before.
Time will tell, maybe you’re right.
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic. |
What is pathetic is trolling on the message board to create contention where there is none. You proved you could read now re-read the next part and stop acting like a cry baby troll. Here, I’ll include below for you and bold it above.
“Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes.” |
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had a few months to look at Bamba and didn't bring him back - even at the minimum. Could it be that they know something you don't? |
Nah…I’m not ignoring that, it’s possible that Rob saw something…but you’re ignoring:
1-Lopez/Randle (totally blame Magic?)
2-Avery Bradley (let him go then brought him back, blame the bubble?)
3-Dwight (blame phone tag? Let go then brought him back)
4-Rondo (let him go he’s washed, oh wait, let’s bring him back)
5-Drummond (let’s start Deandre Jordan instead because?)
6-Wesley Matthews (for Bazemore/Ellington? Wes started for a ship team afterwards)
7-Caruso (started for close out game for ship but don’t want him right?)
8-Shro (reported he wanted to return for tpMLE as Westbrook’s backup, let go, brought back)
You could be right, MoBa may have been so bad at something we don’t know about that Rob figured the potential of his 3pt shooting, rebounding and shot blocking wasn’t worth the vet min.
Or
You could be in denial that it looks like Rob let another player walk (7 for vet min in 5ys: Lopez/ABrad/DwHo/ADrum/WesM/MoBa/LWIV) that the team needed just like he’s done many time before.
Time will tell, maybe you’re right. |
I feel there is so much nuance that you're missing here. We could one by one and either partially or fully disagree on each. Obviously there were some mistakes there but again it's more nuanced than Rob just let them all go.
Regarding Mo, you (and others) keep pushing this narrative we should have brought him back. Of course for the minimum it's fantastic value but I'd venture to guess that Mo also had his reasons not to want to come back. Between feeling like it's not an ideal spot to increase his value with Jackson in place (another young center wanting to do the same) and the fact that he's making $9M less than he could have because we didn't pick up his option, it might not be all on Rob. But I'm sure they got enough of a "pre-agency" on Bamba to know not picking up his option was the right choice and I heard zero reports either side wanted to figure something out. |
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| 2019 wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | The Lakers needed to bring all of the contributors back with limited ability to do so…I get that…but after signing Rui/AR/Dlo and replacing Shro, the next target should have been a legitimate back up C instead relegating it to bargain basement hunting.
Pay lux tax to Guarantee MoBa and/or Beasley then package in a trade with draft capital for an up grade. Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes. That wasn’t done so unless Wood signs it looks like another season without a back up C. At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, can’t understand what he tried this year. I guess LBJ/Rui will play back up C unless Hayes turns into a player he hasn’t been the last 4 years. |
That is a completely (bleep) up take. You're tying up cap space AND gambling that a team will send something of value for two guys making $26 million when their market value was the minimum . . . plus you're tossing in picks.
Completely (bleep) pathetic. |
What is pathetic is trolling on the message board to create contention where there is none. You proved you could read now re-read the next part and stop acting like a cry baby troll. Here, I’ll include below for you and bold it above.
“Alternatively, If the goal was to avoid repeater tax then bring back MoBa at vet min to go with Hayes.” |
You're ignoring the fact that the Lakers had a few months to look at Bamba and didn't bring him back - even at the minimum. Could it be that they know something you don't? |
Nah…I’m not ignoring that, it’s possible that Rob saw something…but you’re ignoring:
1-Lopez/Randle (totally blame Magic?)
2-Avery Bradley (let him go then brought him back, blame the bubble?)
3-Dwight (blame phone tag? Let go then brought him back)
4-Rondo (let him go he’s washed, oh wait, let’s bring him back)
5-Drummond (let’s start Deandre Jordan instead because?)
6-Wesley Matthews (for Bazemore/Ellington? Wes started for a ship team afterwards)
7-Caruso (started for close out game for ship but don’t want him right?)
8-Shro (reported he wanted to return for tpMLE as Westbrook’s backup, let go, brought back)
You could be right, MoBa may have been so bad at something we don’t know about that Rob figured the potential of his 3pt shooting, rebounding and shot blocking wasn’t worth the vet min.
Or
You could be in denial that it looks like Rob let another player walk (7 for vet min in 5ys: Lopez/ABrad/DwHo/ADrum/WesM/MoBa/LWIV) that the team needed just like he’s done many time before.
Time will tell, maybe you’re right. |
I feel there is so much nuance that you're missing here. We could one by one and either partially or fully disagree on each. Obviously there were some mistakes there but again it's more nuanced than Rob just let them all go.
Regarding Mo, you (and others) keep pushing this narrative we should have brought him back. Of course for the minimum it's fantastic value but I'd venture to guess that Mo also had his reasons not to want to come back. Between feeling like it's not an ideal spot to increase his value with Jackson in place (another young center wanting to do the same) and the fact that he's making $9M less than he could have because we didn't pick up his option, it might not be all on Rob. But I'm sure they got enough of a "pre-agency" on Bamba to know not picking up his option was the right choice and I heard zero reports either side wanted to figure something out. |
You could be right, we all are speculating. There are tons of other nuances but all can’t be listed. I included a brief summary excuse for each instance. The point is that there appears to be a trend of Rob letting players go that it looks like we need, seemingly confirmed in many instances with Rob doing an about face and bringing them back, which shows that not only did it look as if they had value, but also that they weren’t against playing for the Lakers. In some instances they said they wanted to come back and thought they would but didn’t due to Rob/FO seeming not interested.
The bottom line: Sure an excuse can be made for each, but it has happened too many times in Rob’s relatively short tenure to ignore. It looks like it is not isolated incidents,it looks like it is a trend with the FO to let go of players that looked as if they should have been kept…such that it is more likely that it was done again with MoBa/LWIV instead of some unseen/un-reported made up phantom reason that Rob saw something that made him logically pass.
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | ...At least Rob tried last year with Bryant/Jones, |
But that was part of the problem. We didn't just need help at the center position; we needed defensive help at the center position. Those two failed horribly. T. Bryant may very well be the worst defensive five in the league.
This season it doesn't make sense to replicate that failed approach. Defensively speaking, Wood will get destroyed out there and Biyombo is too small. At least Leonard can decently hold his own while offering some offensive scoring here and there in a support role.
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