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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:34 am    Post subject:

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Lol Dallas also being lame.

Nothing broke right for us this year from the "things you can't control" category.



Dallas is a team we want to lose.

Dallas, Sacramento, Phoenix. Mavericks

We want all those teams to lose because they're the ones directly above us.
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lol all these wins and can't make up any ground. Brutal, but should've taken care of business earlier on.


Exactly…

How good would a couple more wins look right now in the standings? Lakers took too many nights off throughout the season. Now they are paying the price.

Play- in games are going to be tough. Crazy to think both Warriors and Lakers could be on vacation early.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:56 am    Post subject:

Wemby's near Quadruple Double vs Jokic
23 PTS | 15 REB | 8 AST | 9 BLK


There's special.. and then there's Wemby.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 6:15 am    Post subject:

Man this season is brutal. Last year 4 games over .500 got us the 7th seed. Now more than double over .500 and we are at 9th. Dang tough conference.
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MJST wrote:
Wemby's near Quadruple Double vs Jokic
23 PTS | 15 REB | 8 AST | 9 BLK


There's special.. and then there's Wemby.


It's so interesting watching him play. Guy is a literal freak.
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defense wrote:
MJST wrote:
Wemby's near Quadruple Double vs Jokic
23 PTS | 15 REB | 8 AST | 9 BLK


There's special.. and then there's Wemby.


It's so interesting watching him play. Guy is a literal freak.


This is what a generational player looks like.
    .... Do It MITCH!
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pio2u wrote:
defense wrote:
MJST wrote:
Wemby's near Quadruple Double vs Jokic
23 PTS | 15 REB | 8 AST | 9 BLK


There's special.. and then there's Wemby.


It's so interesting watching him play. Guy is a literal freak.


This is what a generational player looks like.
    .... Do It MITCH!


I'm glad we have AD on our roster. Nobody, besides Giannis will be able to slow down Wemby more.

The kid is a freak. Loved watching him almost beat Denver single-handedly. Despite having a bad game by his standards.
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Spurs are the best organization at calculated and strategic tanking. It landed them 3 generational talents. They knew exactly what they were doing.
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ESPN Sources: Steve Clifford is stepping down as the Charlotte Hornets’ coach at the end of the season and working to finalize a front office role with the franchise. Clifford informed his assistants and players on Wednesday morning.


I read the first bit and was happy because I wanted to get him as a Defensive Assistant, but then saw he's just joining the FO -_-

kikanga wrote:
pio2u wrote:
defense wrote:
MJST wrote:
Wemby's near Quadruple Double vs Jokic
23 PTS | 15 REB | 8 AST | 9 BLK


There's special.. and then there's Wemby.


It's so interesting watching him play. Guy is a literal freak.


This is what a generational player looks like.
    .... Do It MITCH!


I'm glad we have AD on our roster. Nobody, besides Giannis will be able to slow down Wemby more.

The kid is a freak. Loved watching him almost beat Denver single-handedly. Despite having a bad game by his standards.


Yeah, and if Wemby was about 70 pounds heavier, he'd be the equivalent of what Wilt was.

Insane to think about tbh.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 8:34 am    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
ocho wrote:
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ESPN Sources: Steve Clifford is stepping down as the Charlotte Hornets’ coach at the end of the season and working to finalize a front office role with the franchise. Clifford informed his assistants and players on Wednesday morning.


I read the first bit and was happy because I wanted to get him as a Defensive Assistant, but then saw he's just joining the FO -_-

kikanga wrote:
pio2u wrote:
defense wrote:
MJST wrote:
Wemby's near Quadruple Double vs Jokic
23 PTS | 15 REB | 8 AST | 9 BLK


There's special.. and then there's Wemby.


It's so interesting watching him play. Guy is a literal freak.


This is what a generational player looks like.
    .... Do It MITCH!


I'm glad we have AD on our roster. Nobody, besides Giannis will be able to slow down Wemby more.

The kid is a freak. Loved watching him almost beat Denver single-handedly. Despite having a bad game by his standards.


Yeah, and if Wemby was about 70 pounds heavier, he'd be the equivalent of what Wilt was.

Insane to think about tbh.


Wemby came into the L at 19. Wilt came in at 23. 4 years of training and Wemby at 23 should be a modern day Wilt.
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ESPN Sources: Steve Clifford is stepping down as the Charlotte Hornets’ coach at the end of the season and working to finalize a front office role with the franchise. Clifford informed his assistants and players on Wednesday morning.


Would have been a good approach with Frank had there not been, you know, persistent dirty pool from the FO.
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ocho wrote:
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ESPN Sources: Steve Clifford is stepping down as the Charlotte Hornets’ coach at the end of the season and working to finalize a front office role with the franchise. Clifford informed his assistants and players on Wednesday morning.


I read the first bit and was happy because I wanted to get him as a Defensive Assistant, but then saw he's just joining the FO -_-

kikanga wrote:
pio2u wrote:
defense wrote:
MJST wrote:
Wemby's near Quadruple Double vs Jokic
23 PTS | 15 REB | 8 AST | 9 BLK


There's special.. and then there's Wemby.


It's so interesting watching him play. Guy is a literal freak.


This is what a generational player looks like.
    .... Do It MITCH!


I'm glad we have AD on our roster. Nobody, besides Giannis will be able to slow down Wemby more.

The kid is a freak. Loved watching him almost beat Denver single-handedly. Despite having a bad game by his standards.


Yeah, and if Wemby was about 70 pounds heavier, he'd be the equivalent of what Wilt was.

Insane to think about tbh.


Wemby came into the L at 19. Wilt came in at 23. 4 years of training and Wemby at 23 should be a modern day Wilt.


Wilt was about 225 at Kansas and Wemby now weighs 230lbs as of last update. So it depends on how Wemby fills out because he could fill out like Durant or Kareem or like Giannis and we don't know which it will be as of right now. But Wilt was around 270-310 at his prime so I'd say Wemby at his heaviest will be somewhere around 250-270 which isn't bad at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:15 am    Post subject:

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PenG_ wrote:
lol all these wins and can't make up any ground. Brutal, but should've taken care of business earlier on.


Exactly…

How good would a couple more wins look right now in the standings? Lakers took too many nights off throughout the season. Now they are paying the price.

Play- in games are going to be tough. Crazy to think both Warriors and Lakers could be on vacation early.


If that happens, only good things come from it:

- Darvin Scam is immediately fired
- Lakers have a better draft pick (thinking the Pelicans may differ for next season considering the rep on this draft class being the worst in years)
- Maybe, JUST MAYBE, Lebron signs a slight pay cut so it doesn't (bleep) us with cap space. Because no one else is going to pay a 40 year old $60 mill per year.
- The team will no longer have the mentality of taking nights off during the regular season and use this embarrassment as motivation for next season.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:22 am    Post subject:

Clifford is a good coach. Generally, he's been dealt with mediocre to bad rosters, and this time you can't blame him for LaMelo playing 36 games last season and then 22 games this season. I'm just as worried for him as I was for Zo. Their franchise player just can't stay on the court.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:40 am    Post subject:

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PenG_ wrote:
lol all these wins and can't make up any ground. Brutal, but should've taken care of business earlier on.


Exactly…

How good would a couple more wins look right now in the standings? Lakers took too many nights off throughout the season. Now they are paying the price.

Play- in games are going to be tough. Crazy to think both Warriors and Lakers could be on vacation early.


If that happens, only good things come from it:

- Darvin Scam is immediately fired
- Lakers have a better draft pick (thinking the Pelicans may differ for next season considering the rep on this draft class being the worst in years)
- Maybe, JUST MAYBE, Lebron signs a slight pay cut so it doesn't (bleep) us with cap space. Because no one else is going to pay a 40 year old $60 mill per year.
- The team will no longer have the mentality of taking nights off during the regular season and use this embarrassment as motivation for next season.


Interesting perception. I tend to differ in opinion.

- HC is the issue? Which HC is going to improve the team? A defensive HC? A player friendly HC? A no nonsense old school HC?
-Draft pick is the least of this team’s concerns.
- James is not taking anything less than the max IMO. Certainly not anything significant enough to change the roster and cap issues. Leaving 10% on the table in a “team friendly deal” is not making the difference. Plus the narrative of “James deserves it” is way too powerful to change now.
- lastly, why would the Laker attitude suddenly change dramatically? Embarrassment? Motivation for this squad has been the same for the past few seasons. Try to survive the annual trade deadline purge and just get to the playoffs healthy. Why change now?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 10:45 am    Post subject:

Ham's offense has become more deliberate the past few games, and it's been one of the best in the league.

It's his defensive schemes I have issues with. When we ice screens and play them properly like we did in the first quarter against the Nets we look fantastic on both ends. When we go away from that, start playing screens lazily, give no effort to contest/rotation and start helping WAY TOO FAR off shooters, we look horrid.
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Ham's offense has become more deliberate the past few games, and it's been one of the best in the league.

It's his defensive schemes I have issues with. When we ice screens and play them properly like we did in the first quarter against the Nets we look fantastic on both ends. When we go away from that, start playing screens lazily, give no effort to contest/rotation and start helping WAY TOO FAR off shooters, we look horrid.


I’m confused by your last sentence.

It is an issue with Ham’s defensive schemes when players play screens lazily and give no effort on rotations / contesting shooters?

Maybe an accountability issue. But as you state, schemes work when players provide the effort. As we saw in the IST and on a few occasions this season, when the effort is there the Lakers can look pretty good.

To date, they have not been consistent with that effort. Sometimes even Jeckyl and Hyde-ing within a game. Will be interesting to see if they can string together multiple efforts for the play-in and hopefully playoffs.
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Ham's offense has become more deliberate the past few games, and it's been one of the best in the league.

It's his defensive schemes I have issues with. When we ice screens and play them properly like we did in the first quarter against the Nets we look fantastic on both ends. When we go away from that, start playing screens lazily, give no effort to contest/rotation and start helping WAY TOO FAR off shooters, we look horrid.


I’m confused by your last sentence.

It is an issue with Ham’s defensive schemes when players play screens lazily and give no effort on rotations / contesting shooters?

Maybe an accountability issue. But as you state, schemes work when players provide the effort. As we saw in the IST and on a few occasions this season, when the effort is there the Lakers can look pretty good.

To date, they have not been consistent with that effort. Sometimes even Jeckyl and Hyde-ing within a game. Will be interesting to see if they can string together multiple efforts for the play-in and hopefully playoffs.


How we attach screens and help off defenders is a scheme thing. Budenhozer did the same thing, he just had wing defenders who could hustle back in time. Middleton, Holiday, Giannis, etc. And we had that in Vando who can both help off man but get back in time to contest or block a shot. But when people like Reaves, or Prince, or DLO helps too far off they aren't going to get back in time and Reaves in particular is guilty of helping FAR off his man, even leaving the likes of Kyrie Irving open in the process.

How we defend screens comes down to coaching and schemes. LeBron has mentioned as well that he has ignored what the defensive scheme was for pick and roll defense before this season. It's something Ham is weak at, that is carried over from Budenhozer whom was more content with allowing three point shots and playing percentages. Often times they got the most wide open threes, and they gave up the most wide open threes.

Us not giving effort on contesting shots in the paint and rebounding is indeed an effort thing however. But it also starts in the gym and with coaching. If you have a coach that will NOT let you get away with not boxing out in practice or in the game, it carries over. Having coaches that yell those things at you constantly and reminds you when you aren't doing it is important too. Klay Thompson mentioned when Mike Brown left how he was going to miss him constantly being in his ear about his defense or blowing assignments, etc. And now without that voice, the Warriors struggle on defense in ways they haven't in years.

Those things matter, even if they seem small.
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LMAO

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The Raptors should be fined for tanking and resting playable players.
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LMAO


They saw us as the easier potential win. Think lots of teams do which is why teams suit up to play us, and sit out of others. Get a win on the most popular team.

What’s annoying is we haven’t been an easy victory for awhile now. They just see our record and assume we’re trash
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:21 pm    Post subject:

If KD can go to 240 and still look like the slim reaper than no doubt Wemby can hit 270 without losing too much mobility.

I would be surprised if Wemby doesn't get to 260+, he is so weak looking @ 230

Will be interesting to see how he goes in year 2 with more minutes and free reign to do whatever without expectations.

Think he needs to work out how to be effective closer to the basket offensively instead of just chucking from 3pt line lol. Although maybe he takes a big leap with his outside game next year.
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If KD can go to 240 and still look like the slim reaper than no doubt Wemby can hit 270 without losing too much mobility.

I would be surprised if Wemby doesn't get to 260+, he is so weak looking @ 230

Will be interesting to see how he goes in year 2 with more minutes and free reign to do whatever without expectations.

Think he needs to work out how to be effective closer to the basket offensively instead of just chucking from 3pt line lol. Although maybe he takes a big leap with his outside game next year.


Kareem's weight actually was up by 270 on his year 38 season. He worked out with a female body builder over that summer and got his weight closer to 270 after being 240-250 for most of his career.
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