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| Runway8 wrote: | The pirate links are good if you watch alone, or watch on a phone, laptop. But if you have family, friends coming over, etc., it's pretty ghetto. LOL! Hold on, let me hook up my pc to the tv, hold on, let me kill these pop ups, hold on, hold on let me maximize the screen, hold on let me find my mouse toggle app, etc. LOL! I'm done with that life.
Right now, due to the unlimited DVR feature, nothing beats NBA league past on Youtube TV, provided you know how how to work around the black out. But this Spectrum deal is a step in the right direction. If we no longer want youtube tv one day, I would definitely subscribe to this. I mean this was the exact solution I was looking for several years ago when Frontier and Spectrum where fighting over fees. Decided to drop them both, went to youtube tv and never looked back. |
That's exactly why I switched. Reddit goes through sportsurge, which offers a bunch of different hosts who stream the games. If you have ad blockers and don't want to pay, it's one of the main ways to watch the games for free. However, you have to prepare for the constant buffering, slowdowns and delays. It's certainly one option, but not ideal or preferable if you're on twitter or watching at the same time with friends. Eventually, I got fed up with them because the videos kept buffering every 3-4 minutes. It's not fun and I end up rage quitting more often than not. It may be worth paying a little for a more stable and less frustrating experience.
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I haven't had a problem watching free streams.
Since I have moved overseas they have been great.
The Spectrum Sportnet site was always garbage when I used it. Don't know if it has improved now.
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| You can get league pass with student discount for 40% off the monthly rate. It's ~$9 a month for all NBA games. If you aren't in school just need a family member or friend that is. Need school name, student name, and DOB to get the discount code. Free adult education online education community college classes will also qualify for edu discount, so anyone can do it with a little effort. |
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| TDRock wrote: | | Yeah they just sent me a thing about this which I thought was interesting given I'm a spectrum cable customer. The Lakers is literally the only reason why I still have cable TV (the Lakers and the spectrum channel). So I have to read the fine print on what I get but if this really works out that might be the end of me paying for cable. Yay. |
I'm in the same situation. I only have cable for Laker games primarily, and non Laker games secondarily.
At least the new streaming option with Spectrum is free for current cable subscribers. We'll be able to test it out to see how decent it is.
For me, I want full DVR controls to skip commercials like I do now, and also want access to TNT, ESPN and ABC for national games and I'm set. I also tune in to Bally sports in hopes to see the Clippers lose, but it's not a necessity. |
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| joeblow wrote: | | TDRock wrote: | | Yeah they just sent me a thing about this which I thought was interesting given I'm a spectrum cable customer. The Lakers is literally the only reason why I still have cable TV (the Lakers and the spectrum channel). So I have to read the fine print on what I get but if this really works out that might be the end of me paying for cable. Yay. |
I'm in the same situation. I only have cable for Laker games primarily, and non Laker games secondarily.
At least the new streaming option with Spectrum is free for current cable subscribers. We'll be able to test it out to see how decent it is.
For me, I want full DVR controls to skip commercials like I do now, and also want access to TNT, ESPN and ABC for national games and I'm set. I also tune in to Bally sports in hopes to see the Clippers lose, but it's not a necessity. |
Well channels are missing on my cable TV right now, spectrum being one of them after they did some critical upgrade thing overnight. So spectrum on my TV is not working but spectrum streaming on my iPad is. So… Interesting.
As far as all these bootleg services I used to be a member of HeHe and it was fantastic and stable and what have you but I've also - when I try to watch games while I'm traveling is usually where it comes up for me - experienced a lot of these bootleg links with endless pop-ups in hell I stream delays and stream died halfway through the game etc. etc. and I can't be getting put through all that, I just want to turn on the game and watch it. $180 a year is beyond way less than what I'm paying right now, in fact I think I pay $180 a month right now.
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| Don't forget you still need another streaming package that gets TNT and ESPN for those games that aren't on Spectrum. So it will probably not be a big savings from existing cable packages. |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | Don't forget you still need another streaming package that gets TNT and ESPN for those games that aren't on Spectrum. So it will probably not be a big savings from existing cable packages. |
When I had DirecTV it seemed like I always had a choice to watch the ESPN or Spectrum channel feed. In fact by DVR would sometimes record both broadcasts simultaneously. So now if you get the Spectrum+ service they take away the option to watch the Spectrum feed when it's on ESPN? That's a bummer.
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | Don't forget you still need another streaming package that gets TNT and ESPN for those games that aren't on Spectrum. So it will probably not be a big savings from existing cable packages. |
Spectrum is a ripoff after first year, assuming most spectrum users would still use their internet. The bill goes up to like $80 per month after first year. YouTube tv is $73, lakers $20, that’s $173, but I assume the dodgers will be doing the same thing, which adds up quickly. |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | YouTube tv is $73, lakers $20, that’s $173. |
 Is this the new math that is being taught in school that I keep hearing about?
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| Big Game James wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | YouTube tv is $73, lakers $20, that’s $173. |
Is this the new math that is being taught in school that I keep hearing about? |
I had to do a double take also, he says Spectrum Internet is $80.
I thought the sports net being $20 might have something to do with an obligation to share some of it with their TV partners who paid for the exclusive, but it looks like ClipperVision is $20/mo also. |
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| TDRock wrote: | | joeblow wrote: | | TDRock wrote: | | Yeah they just sent me a thing about this which I thought was interesting given I'm a spectrum cable customer. The Lakers is literally the only reason why I still have cable TV (the Lakers and the spectrum channel). So I have to read the fine print on what I get but if this really works out that might be the end of me paying for cable. Yay. |
I'm in the same situation. I only have cable for Laker games primarily, and non Laker games secondarily.
At least the new streaming option with Spectrum is free for current cable subscribers. We'll be able to test it out to see how decent it is.
For me, I want full DVR controls to skip commercials like I do now, and also want access to TNT, ESPN and ABC for national games and I'm set. I also tune in to Bally sports in hopes to see the Clippers lose, but it's not a necessity. |
Well channels are missing on my cable TV right now, spectrum being one of them after they did some critical upgrade thing overnight. So spectrum on my TV is not working but spectrum streaming on my iPad is. So… Interesting.
As far as all these bootleg services I used to be a member of HeHe and it was fantastic and stable and what have you but I've also - when I try to watch games while I'm traveling is usually where it comes up for me - experienced a lot of these bootleg links with endless pop-ups in hell I stream delays and stream died halfway through the game etc. etc. and I can't be getting put through all that, I just want to turn on the game and watch it. $180 a year is beyond way less than what I'm paying right now, in fact I think I pay $180 a month right now. |
I paying $170 a month for basic cable, DVR and Internet. I just want to cut cable and DVR and be able to watch Laker games at my convenience. I went the whole summer without turning on cable box, friend. |
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| Big Game James wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | YouTube tv is $73, lakers $20, that’s $173. |
Is this the new math that is being taught in school that I keep hearing about? |
i added the internet cost which is $80 per month, sorry about the confusion |
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Something pretty cool, the local teams streaming services are being integrated in to the NBA League pass app. Living in Los Angeles, LP always has a little blurb saying Lakers and Clippers games aren’t available to me due to zip code. But now there is a tab for Clipper Vision and another tab for SSN+.
I see there are maybe 10 teams with streaming services now, including the Jazz. Looks like your local market teams service will be integrated in to league pass if you are in their local market. |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | Something pretty cool, the local teams streaming services are being integrated in to the NBA League pass app. Living in Los Angeles, LP always has a little blurb saying Lakers and Clippers games aren’t available to me due to zip code. But now there is a tab for Clipper Vision and another tab for SSN+.
I see there are maybe 10 teams with streaming services now, including the Jazz. Looks like your local market teams service will be integrated in to league pass if you are in their local market. |
The "blurb" is still up at NBA.com, so I wouldn't chance it until it is updated if some of you don't already subscribe to League Pass.
| Quote: | | Based on your current location, you will be unable to view LIVE Lakers & Clippers games or nationally broadcast games on ESPN, ABC or TNT via your League Pass, League Pass Premium, or Team Pass subscription (inclusive of NBA TV). Locally blacked out games will be available 3 days after the live broadcast, while nationally broadcast games will be available 3 hours after the live broadcast. Each subscription includes access to live radio broadcasts of all NBA games. Please consult your local TV and radio broadcaster schedules for where to find broadcasts in your area. |
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Does the India league pass trick no longer work? Used to be like $10 for a whole year with no blackouts with a VPN
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| joeblow wrote: | | dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | Something pretty cool, the local teams streaming services are being integrated in to the NBA League pass app. Living in Los Angeles, LP always has a little blurb saying Lakers and Clippers games aren’t available to me due to zip code. But now there is a tab for Clipper Vision and another tab for SSN+.
I see there are maybe 10 teams with streaming services now, including the Jazz. Looks like your local market teams service will be integrated in to league pass if you are in their local market. |
The "blurb" is still up at NBA.com, so I wouldn't chance it until it is updated if some of you don't already subscribe to League Pass.
| Quote: | | Based on your current location, you will be unable to view LIVE Lakers & Clippers games or nationally broadcast games on ESPN, ABC or TNT via your League Pass, League Pass Premium, or Team Pass subscription (inclusive of NBA TV). Locally blacked out games will be available 3 days after the live broadcast, while nationally broadcast games will be available 3 hours after the live broadcast. Each subscription includes access to live radio broadcasts of all NBA games. Please consult your local TV and radio broadcaster schedules for where to find broadcasts in your area. |
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The way it works is if you buy SSN+ or ClipperVision you can link your subscription through the NBA app so you can access all the games through the same app instead of having to bounce back and forth between the NBA and SSN+ app.
“Team Pass” is the discounted league pass where you choose only 5 or so teams to watch. SSN and Clipper Vision are not types of “Team Passes” as referenced there. |
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| In any case, I'm sill waiting for the Spectrum app to come to the Playstation 5 like the announcement articles mentioned. I'll then be able to test it out for free through my cable TV sub and go from there. |
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| joeblow wrote: | | In any case, I'm sill waiting for the Spectrum app to come to the Playstation 5 like the announcement articles mentioned. I'll then be able to test it out for free through my cable TV sub and go from there. |
If there isn't a stand alone app, then you would use the NBA League Pass app. You will see in the left menu, CliipperVision and Sportsnet+. You can login your service provider and watch the Laker games. If you're already subscribing to Spectrum cable service, I guess you don't need to pay the $20 bucks. It will black out nationally televised Laker games on ESPN and TNT. In which case, you'll have to use the regular Spectrum live TV app to watch, which doesn't have pause and rewind, but their new Sportsnet Live app does have pause and rewind, but I don't see that or even the regular Spectrum live tv apps on the PS5. But you know, even the regular Spectrum live tv app is a freaking unicorn. It's nowhere to be found except for Android phones. I still have it on my Samsung TV, but only because Samsung gave me a warning that this app will no longer be supported, so do not delete it if you wish to use it. LOL! My LG tv, gone. Nvidia Shield, gone. Fire tv sticks, gone. What the hell is Spectrum doing? |
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| ducasse wrote: | | You can get league pass with student discount for 40% off the monthly rate. It's ~$9 a month for all NBA games. If you aren't in school just need a family member or friend that is. Need school name, student name, and DOB to get the discount code. Free adult education online education community college classes will also qualify for edu discount, so anyone can do it with a little effort. |
That is solid, much love LG old schooler....I dig it.
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| Runway8 wrote: | | joeblow wrote: | | In any case, I'm sill waiting for the Spectrum app to come to the Playstation 5 like the announcement articles mentioned. I'll then be able to test it out for free through my cable TV sub and go from there. |
If there isn't a stand alone app, then you would use the NBA League Pass app. You will see in the left menu, CliipperVision and Sportsnet+. You can login your service provider and watch the Laker games. If you're already subscribing to Spectrum cable service, I guess you don't need to pay the $20 bucks. It will black out nationally televised Laker games on ESPN and TNT. In which case, you'll have to use the regular Spectrum live TV app to watch, which doesn't have pause and rewind, but their new Sportsnet Live app does have pause and rewind, but I don't see that or even the regular Spectrum live tv apps on the PS5. But you know, even the regular Spectrum live tv app is a freaking unicorn. It's nowhere to be found except for Android phones. I still have it on my Samsung TV, but only because Samsung gave me a warning that this app will no longer be supported, so do not delete it if you wish to use it. LOL! My LG tv, gone. Nvidia Shield, gone. Fire tv sticks, gone. What the hell is Spectrum doing? |
Hmm, you can pause and rewind on the SSN+ subscription?
I ditched the cable boxes a few years ago and go exclusively AppleTV and Roku now with the spectrum app. It’s about $18 a month extra to get a DVR box, which I debate about regularly. The pause and rewind adds some extra value, although it still has lag. Pet of the value of the DVR box is no lag. |
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| dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | | Runway8 wrote: | | joeblow wrote: | | In any case, I'm sill waiting for the Spectrum app to come to the Playstation 5 like the announcement articles mentioned. I'll then be able to test it out for free through my cable TV sub and go from there. |
If there isn't a stand alone app, then you would use the NBA League Pass app. You will see in the left menu, CliipperVision and Sportsnet+. You can login your service provider and watch the Laker games. If you're already subscribing to Spectrum cable service, I guess you don't need to pay the $20 bucks. It will black out nationally televised Laker games on ESPN and TNT. In which case, you'll have to use the regular Spectrum live TV app to watch, which doesn't have pause and rewind, but their new Sportsnet Live app does have pause and rewind, but I don't see that or even the regular Spectrum live tv apps on the PS5. But you know, even the regular Spectrum live tv app is a freaking unicorn. It's nowhere to be found except for Android phones. I still have it on my Samsung TV, but only because Samsung gave me a warning that this app will no longer be supported, so do not delete it if you wish to use it. LOL! My LG tv, gone. Nvidia Shield, gone. Fire tv sticks, gone. What the hell is Spectrum doing? |
Hmm, you can pause and rewind on the SSN+ subscription?
I ditched the cable boxes a few years ago and go exclusively AppleTV and Roku now with the spectrum app. It’s about $18 a month extra to get a DVR box, which I debate about regularly. The pause and rewind adds some extra value, although it still has lag. Pet of the value of the DVR box is no lag. |
Yes, which is why I've dumped YT TV and NBA subscription. The reason I kept it around was due to being a creature of habit. I'm used to having local news, channel surfing, etc. But I realize my family doesn't really watch it much, and now that I can pause/rewind Laker games outside of ytv, I've since dumped them. But again, you can only pause/rewind if you use NBA league pass app to login to Spectrum, or the stand alone Sportsnet Live Games app. You cannot pause/rewind on the regular Spectrum tv app. |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | joeblow wrote: | | In any case, I'm sill waiting for the Spectrum app to come to the Playstation 5 like the announcement articles mentioned. I'll then be able to test it out for free through my cable TV sub and go from there. |
If there isn't a stand alone app, then you would use the NBA League Pass app. You will see in the left menu, CliipperVision and Sportsnet+. You can login your service provider and watch the Laker games. If you're already subscribing to Spectrum cable service, I guess you don't need to pay the $20 bucks. It will black out nationally televised Laker games on ESPN and TNT. In which case, you'll have to use the regular Spectrum live TV app to watch, which doesn't have pause and rewind, but their new Sportsnet Live app does have pause and rewind, but I don't see that or even the regular Spectrum live tv apps on the PS5. But you know, even the regular Spectrum live tv app is a freaking unicorn. It's nowhere to be found except for Android phones. I still have it on my Samsung TV, but only because Samsung gave me a warning that this app will no longer be supported, so do not delete it if you wish to use it. LOL! My LG tv, gone. Nvidia Shield, gone. Fire tv sticks, gone. What the hell is Spectrum doing? |
Thanks for the tip. I re-watched the Laker / Suns game on my PS5 + HDTV setup today to test the app's quality, then I watched NBATV's broadcast of the Warriors / Cavs game on the app as well (the last 15 minutes was live). Since my programmable remote already controls my PS5 when watching movies, I was able to compare the experience of enjoying games on it with cable TV. Here are my impressions:
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- I appreciated that I did not have to sign up an account on the NBA app to play back the Spectrum recording. Just start it up, click on Spectrum, validate that you have a cable TV sub by entering a passcode from the app onto a website and you then have access.
- Only two completed Laker games were accessible (Phoenix and Houston). It would be nice if you could play back any game in the season, but I guess you need to pay for NBA League Pass for that.
- If you watch your games on the DVR like I do instead of live, and are really REALLY active on the remote control (I skip commercials, FTs, and general dead time) then the streaming app is not going to keep up with you. Despite having my console connected directly to a wired ethernet cable and getting super fast 1GB speed, I would encounter buffering issues and outright app crashes when I skipped forward and back too often.
- Watching the second game was easier because I really dialed back on rewinding and fast forwarding, but of course that meant watching it is a lot longer than a typical game for me on cable TV (2.5 hours of content watched in just over an hour usually).
- I do not like fast forwarding on the streaming app that much because of three problems:
(1) You can't see the game while it is fast forwarding, so you have to guess when to stop and end up a lot of times stopping too early are too late.
(2) It only gives you 2x speed, 4x, speed, or 10x speed. That gap between 4x and 10x is HUGE because the first is too slow to forward to a spot from the beginning once the app crashes, and the second is waaaaay too fast. This problem is compounded because of the first problem above where you can't see where it is going.
(3) Even if you get a rhythm of, say, skipping ahead 30s to a minute to skip free throws, the stupid app literally just snaps back to the original spot of the recording. I think it is because it hasn't yet buffered that far ahead, and instead of just pausing while it catches up, it sends you back to where you started, forcing you to do it again (it usually works then). Very frustrating.
- The video quality is decent. It's pretty close to 1080P, though it would be nicer if 4K streaming were an option. That requires 4K quality cameras though, and even cable TV doesn't deliver 4K bball games so I won't complain about what's provided. Also, the framerate is nice and fluid, just like cable TV broadcasts. I rarely had buffering issues where it dropped to like 240P blockiness that some streams do at times.
- The audio though is at best 'OK'. Cable TV games deliver surround sound through my 5.1.2 home theater setup, and the NBA /Spectrum app only delivers 2.1 audio. Disappointing.
- It's actually kind of nice watching the playback of the Laker game because they automatically cut out the commercial breaks and halftime. However, when watching the Warrior game that was halfway over when I started,
It's a different story since that isn't Spectrum. I was allowed to start from the beginning and input all the DVR controls like normal. I eventually caught up to the live broadcast, but once the game ended it immediately removes the ability to watch the game from the start unless you pay to see it. I guess you have to be a full, paying League Pass client to play back any non-live games other than the Lakers on Spectrum. Even the Clipper app doesn't let you play back their beat down by the Mavs unless you pay.
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I suppose all tech gets better over time. We'll see if that's true for bball streaming. For people who watch games live there is not too much to complain about I guess. I save time by watching games 90 minutes or so after they start because I skip so much non-action to where I catch up by the time regulation is ending. That would be a challenge to replicate with all the buffering and crashing I experienced watching it "my way" on the app. It would be nice if they allowed surround sound, though. |
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If there isn't a stand alone app, then you would use the NBA League Pass app. You will see in the left menu, CliipperVision and Sportsnet+. You can login your service provider and watch the Laker games.....It will black out nationally televised Laker games on ESPN and TNT. |
With Sportsnet+ subscription I watched the Suns game live through the NBA app. So you can watch the Lakers' ESPN games live. I don't think a standard league pass subscription allows that though. I believe there's a 3 hr delay before you can watch ESPN games on league pass. The Sportsnet+ picture quality looks good on a big screen. It looks like they archive the last two games for watching later. |
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So I have now logged into my Spectrum account on the NBA.com website and it allows me access to the Laker games from my browser like I can from my PS5. To test it out I re-watched the end of the third quarter of the Laker game all the way the finish. and there are some significant differences between the two portals (my PC is connected to my home theater setup).
For one, the PC browser version is infinitely better to watch if you're very active with skipping dead action. With just a click I can instantly jump forward or back ten seconds, and can also simply click on the seek bar with the cursor to immediately go to to any moment of a previously played game. It's even better than watching a recording on my DVR in that way.
I never once had a buffering issue and the broadcast never crashed. This shows me that the PS5 app is currently hot garbage if you want to freely zip around within a game without it getting confused and locking up.
The negative with the PC browser version however is that the visuals are slightly pixelated, unlike the superior image on the PS5 app. My computer rig is calibrated well enough that video can look really, really good, but the NBA.com's link's output on the browser is just not doing its job well enough. I'd say the quality looks somewhere between 720P and 1080P despite it showing 1080P in the settings. It is also more washed out.
The audio is also worse than the PS5 app, though not as severe a dip as the visuals. My subwoofer on the PC version of the stream barely gets engaged (i.e., during the thumping musical sequences of timeouts), and sounds muffled. Again, my PC is calibrated to deliver outstanding sound quality, even through a web browser, so I know it is the streaming tech on PC.
Too bad there is no perfect option so far:
- Lowest cost? Streaming, but I sacrifice audio/visuals with the PC stream or time and energy fussing with the controls of the PS5 stream.
- Good combination of audio / visuals / and user friendliness? Cable TV, but it is ridiculously more expensive since I don't watch 99.9% of what I am paying for.
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| MookieBetts50 wrote: | | Crackstreams FTW |
Lol, ever since I got closer to the Lord, I moved away from my days of pirating sports channels, video games, etc.
Luke 12:3
"Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whispered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops." |
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