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ChickenStu
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They let him throw 110 pitches through 5 2/3. I just don't get it. And we're up by 5. Meanwhile, God forbid we let a guy get through the 5th inning when he's pitching a gem and the guy is at like 75-80 pitches.
Someone, please make it make sense. And no, this isn't complaining just to complain. |
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Steve007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | See, Flaherty gets through 5 but with 92 pitches, why even bring him back for the 6th? Just walked the leadoff guy and now he's over 100 pitches and it's only the 6th inning. Meanwhile, we pull guys before 80 pitches in the 5th when they are actually pitching good games. |
The team is playing 13 days in a row (starting today) and Flaherty is just a rental so the team isn’t as concerned about his future beyond this year.
I still agree with you. I just saw those 2 points raised by other fans. |
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Steve007
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve007 wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | See, Flaherty gets through 5 but with 92 pitches, why even bring him back for the 6th? Just walked the leadoff guy and now he's over 100 pitches and it's only the 6th inning. Meanwhile, we pull guys before 80 pitches in the 5th when they are actually pitching good games. |
The team is playing 13 days in a row (starting today) and Flaherty is just a rental so the team isn’t as concerned about his future beyond this year.
I still agree with you. I just saw those 2 points raised by other fans. |
Of course the guys getting pulled after 80 pitches still get injured anyway. |
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Snipes
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | I guess they could also opt to bench Rojas against lefties, in order to get 2 of these above guys into the lineup. |
What would be the logic in benching Rojas vs lefties instead of righties?
Let’s see his splits:
| Quote: | vs lefties: .741 ops
vs righties: .703 ops |
Guess there’s not that much difference |
Yeah there’s no logic at all because historically Miggy is better vs lefties but I don’t know how else they do it. Rojas does need rest though and I heard on the broadcast that Edman will also play some SS. I would prefer Rosario against lefties over Max TBH. Keeps Max fresh and we get a better ops vs lefties but I think AF envisions Max as an everyday 3B. Kike also ends up being our backup CF if Pages is gone and perhaps plays CF when Rojas rests and Edman plays SS.
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Theseus
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | They let him throw 110 pitches through 5 2/3. I just don't get it. And we're up by 5. Meanwhile, God forbid we let a guy get through the 5th inning when he's pitching a gem and the guy is at like 75-80 pitches.
Someone, please make it make sense. And no, this isn't complaining just to complain. |
I'm a cardinal fan first, who has followed Flaherty off the team and around the league. I've been forced to watch the Detroit Tigers! They were running some kind of 6 man rotation, so Flaherty has pitched more innings than last year but in fewer games. He probably is much more rested than you'd think looking at his innings pitched.
Can't say the same for whomever else you have pitching, and what they've been going through, or what specific incident you're referring to. I haven't followed Dodgers too much, but maybe that could explain this one instance. Or the manager is just not great, which is a complaint I have heard a lot from other dodger fans.
Anyway good luck everybody, hope Flaherty stays, I think he likes being home and he's going to be good for a while. |
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Snipes
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Theseus wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | They let him throw 110 pitches through 5 2/3. I just don't get it. And we're up by 5. Meanwhile, God forbid we let a guy get through the 5th inning when he's pitching a gem and the guy is at like 75-80 pitches.
Someone, please make it make sense. And no, this isn't complaining just to complain. |
I'm a cardinal fan first, who has followed Flaherty off the team and around the league. I've been forced to watch the Detroit Tigers! They were running some kind of 6 man rotation, so Flaherty has pitched more innings than last year but in fewer games. He probably is much more rested than you'd think looking at his innings pitched.
Can't say the same for whomever else you have pitching, and what they've been going through, or what specific incident you're referring to. I haven't followed Dodgers too much, but maybe that could explain this one instance. Or the manager is just not great, which is a complaint I have heard a lot from other dodger fans.
Anyway good luck everybody, hope Flaherty stays, I think he likes being home and he's going to be good for a while. |
Basically it goes against everything the Dodgers believe in by leaving him out there. We have had guys with a low PC get pulled in the 4th/5th routinely only to blow the game by putting our BP in. The difference is Flaherty is a rental I guess so they plan to leave him out there and not really think about the future. At least that’s what it seems like.
It will be hard to keep him because he’s going to demand a sizeable contract most likely and we have so many injured guys who we have under control returning next year. There’s literally 0 space but let’s see.
I wanted the Dodgers to take a chance on him this year over Paxton. We paid Pax the same $ as him. In an ideal world (lol) I wish we gave Jack a 2/30 deal but nobody really believed in him after last year.
Either way it’s been a great comeback and I’m sure a as Flaherty fan you are very happy for him. Hope he breaks the bank and finds a good team to pitch for even if it isn’t us. |
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Cutheon
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve007 wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | See, Flaherty gets through 5 but with 92 pitches, why even bring him back for the 6th? Just walked the leadoff guy and now he's over 100 pitches and it's only the 6th inning. Meanwhile, we pull guys before 80 pitches in the 5th when they are actually pitching good games. |
The team is playing 13 days in a row (starting today) and Flaherty is just a rental so the team isn’t as concerned about his future beyond this year.
I still agree with you. I just saw those 2 points raised by other fans. |
Feel like the rental thing is key. We love riding our rentals (Scherzer, Lynn). |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Cutheon wrote: | | Steve007 wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | See, Flaherty gets through 5 but with 92 pitches, why even bring him back for the 6th? Just walked the leadoff guy and now he's over 100 pitches and it's only the 6th inning. Meanwhile, we pull guys before 80 pitches in the 5th when they are actually pitching good games. |
The team is playing 13 days in a row (starting today) and Flaherty is just a rental so the team isn’t as concerned about his future beyond this year.
I still agree with you. I just saw those 2 points raised by other fans. |
Feel like the rental thing is key. We love riding our rentals (Scherzer, Lynn). |
Sounds so cruel. Since they are rentals who cares if their arm goes out. I know at the end of the day it's business but damn.
I guess it's not as bad as the Angels riding Ohtani's arm last year since they knew he wasn't coming back. |
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I hope we can keep Flaherty, wonder if he would take a little less to stay here?
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | Cutheon wrote: | | Steve007 wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | See, Flaherty gets through 5 but with 92 pitches, why even bring him back for the 6th? Just walked the leadoff guy and now he's over 100 pitches and it's only the 6th inning. Meanwhile, we pull guys before 80 pitches in the 5th when they are actually pitching good games. |
The team is playing 13 days in a row (starting today) and Flaherty is just a rental so the team isn’t as concerned about his future beyond this year.
I still agree with you. I just saw those 2 points raised by other fans. |
Feel like the rental thing is key. We love riding our rentals (Scherzer, Lynn). |
Sounds so cruel. Since they are rentals who cares if their arm goes out. I know at the end of the day it's business but damn.
I guess it's not as bad as the Angels riding Ohtani's arm last year since they knew he wasn't coming back. |
I know right? |
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| oasisdude77 wrote: | | Snipes wrote: | Not sure if I missed this but Roberts announced Betts will be returning to RF after IL stint.
So Heyward goes to the bench and Miggy will play SS. Looks like we are finally prioritizing the D.
Ohtani DH
Betts RF
Freeman 1B
Teo LF
Will C
Max 3B
Lux 2B
Miggy 3B
Edman CF
Kike, Heyward, ct3, Rosario, Barnes off the bench. Rosario and one of Kike/Ct3 will platoon with Max and Lux.
Pages sent down I assume |
We're really going with some out-of-the-box analytics here as we'll have a gaping hole at short and two men at the hot corner  |
Dumping the zone defense in favor of the bag defense. |
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aprevo15
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| I am not familiar with pre 88 Dodgers so I didn't know Dusty Baker was considered a Dodger legend. Why did the fans boo him when the all star game was held here in Los Angele? |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | I am not familiar with pre 88 Dodgers so I didn't know Dusty Baker was considered a Dodger legend. Why did the fans boo him when the all star game was held here in Los Angele? |
Because at the time Dusty managed the Cheatstros and back in the day the hated Giants with Barroids Bonds. So no fault of his own really but he's been associated with the 2 scummiest rivals of our Dodgers. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| MookieBetts50 wrote: | | aprevo15 wrote: | | I am not familiar with pre 88 Dodgers so I didn't know Dusty Baker was considered a Dodger legend. Why did the fans boo him when the all star game was held here in Los Angele? |
Because at the time Dusty managed the Cheatstros and back in the day the hated Giants with Barroids Bonds. So no fault of his own really but he's been associated with the 2 scummiest rivals of our Dodgers. |
Fans could be brutal. LOL |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | I am not familiar with pre 88 Dodgers so I didn't know Dusty Baker was considered a Dodger legend. Why did the fans boo him when the all star game was held here in Los Angele? |
I would say legend is a bit of hyperbole. He was a very good player, one of the four Dodgers to hit 30 HR's in a season in 1977 (Cey 30, Garvey 33, Smith 32), and hit .281 with 144 HR's in 8 seasons with a 117 OPS+ (some would say, not so good) and one gold glove for the team.
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| ribeye wrote: | | aprevo15 wrote: | | I am not familiar with pre 88 Dodgers so I didn't know Dusty Baker was considered a Dodger legend. Why did the fans boo him when the all star game was held here in Los Angele? |
I would say legend is a bit of hyperbole. He was a very good player, one of the four Dodgers to hit 30 HR's in a season in 1977 (Cey 30, Garvey 33, Smith 32), and hit .281 with 144 HR's in 8 seasons with a 117 OPS+ (some would say, not so good) and one gold glove for the team. |
Ah I see. The way they were talking about him before and during the game gave me that impression.
One cool story I heard Orel saying was that when they took the picture with the 4 who hit 30 HR's, Dusty had 29 with 1 more game to go. Lasorda told him to take the pic anyway and next day which was the final game he hit his 30th. |
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Snipes
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The Padres are a joke LOL they came back AGAIN today. Down 7-2 to win 9-8 in extras. Can’t wait till this miracle end runs and they go on a 5 game losing streak |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Snipes wrote: | | The Padres are a joke LOL they came back AGAIN today. Down 7-2 to win 9-8 in extras. Can’t wait till this miracle end runs and they go on a 5 game losing streak |
What’s new?
We run into miracle teams every yr, starting with the 2021 SF Giants team. |
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aprevo15
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| Lux owns Skenes today. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lux is a bad man … knocks in all 3 runs
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Kirmeir with an awesome catch. No way Pages make that catch. |
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JerryWest_44
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | Kirmeir with an awesome catch. No way Pages make that catch. |
Agree. I thought he had no chance running down that shot to centerfield. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | aprevo15 wrote: | | Kirmeir with an awesome catch. No way Pages make that catch. |
Agree. I thought he had no chance running down that shot to centerfield. |
Gave me Bellinger flash backs when I saw that catch. I remember Belli would catch anything hit to center field. |
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| Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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| We got some good defenders out there today. Minus Kike. LOL. 1 error and another one could have been an error but they ruled it a hit. |
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| OMG is Ryan hurt? |
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