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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Quote: | Rays 'Widely Expected' To Trade Tyler Glasnow
The Tampa Bay Rays are "widely expected" to trade Tyler Glasnow this offseason, according to a report.
Glasnow will be a free agent after the 2024 season and should fetch the Rays a nice haul in return.
The 30-year-old is owed $25 million next year. He started 21 games this past season, posting a 3.53 ERA and 162 strikeouts in 120 innings.
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Don't mess with the Rays FO. They'll pick our best prospects in a trade. I'd stay away from them. |
Plus Glasnow is made of glass |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Quote: | Rays 'Widely Expected' To Trade Tyler Glasnow
The Tampa Bay Rays are "widely expected" to trade Tyler Glasnow this offseason, according to a report.
Glasnow will be a free agent after the 2024 season and should fetch the Rays a nice haul in return.
The 30-year-old is owed $25 million next year. He started 21 games this past season, posting a 3.53 ERA and 162 strikeouts in 120 innings.
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Don't mess with the Rays FO. They'll pick our best prospects in a trade. I'd stay away from them. |
Plus Glasnow is made of glass |
And hasn't been good in the postseason. That said, maybe we'll get "contract year" Glasnow. The guy can touch 99 with a wipeout slider. In terms of a comparison between he and Burnes, it's worth noting that Burnes' strikeout rate has dropped in 4 consecutive seasons, his 4-seam fastball velocity has dropped in 3 straight seasons (to 95.5 in '23), and his groundball rate has also dipped in 3 straight seasons. However, he's thrown almost 400 innings over the last 2 seasons. Glasnow's K rate of 12.15/9 last season was far better than Burnes' 9.29 mark. Glasnow's BB rate was also a tick lower, his groundball rate was considerably higher, and his average 4-seam velocity was 96.5 MPH. Of course, his 120 innings was a career high.
All in all, I'd be happy with either one, but you'd have to say that Burnes is probably the safer bet to stay healthy. I'd assume Burnes would be the more likely of the two to fetch a higher return, though. |
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This is for you Chickenstu. Article assessing the viability of the Dodgers going after Yelich:
| Quote: | Christian Yelich
The Dodgers are all too familiar with the Yelich situation, having gone through something eerily similar with Cody Bellinger. And wouldn’t you know, in a healthy 2023, Yelich also bounced back significantly, if not quite to his MVP ways, still, to a very respectable 124 OPS+, on a 3.6 WAR season.
Part of Milwaukee’s willingness to listen to offers on its impact players is to trim the payroll also, and what better way to do that than to shop their most expensive asset?
Yelich is still owed $26 million per year across the next five seasons, with a mutual option and $6.5 MM buyout for 2029.
It stands to reason that Milwaukee would eat a significant chunk of it to capitalize on Yelich’s 2023 campaign to move him. Just how much money is probably the determining factor in whether talks move forward or not.
Yelich has a no-trade clause. But it’s not a crazy assumption to think he’d have no trouble waiving it for the former Westlake High School star to move closer to home and play for the Dodgers.
To further help his case, Yelich still rates pretty well defensively, coming in with an Outs Above Average in the 84th percentile last season.
https://www.truebluela.com/2023/11/15/23959373/dodgers-brewers-trade-rumors-corbin-burnes-christian-yelich |
Yeah, wonder how much they'd have to eat to move him.
$26M x 5 = $130M + $6.5M buyout = $136.5M
I'd say if they ate $10/per + the $6.5M buyout
That leaves $16M x 5 yrs = $80M |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | ^
This is for you Chickenstu. Article assessing the viability of the Dodgers going after Yelich:
| Quote: | Christian Yelich
The Dodgers are all too familiar with the Yelich situation, having gone through something eerily similar with Cody Bellinger. And wouldn’t you know, in a healthy 2023, Yelich also bounced back significantly, if not quite to his MVP ways, still, to a very respectable 124 OPS+, on a 3.6 WAR season.
Part of Milwaukee’s willingness to listen to offers on its impact players is to trim the payroll also, and what better way to do that than to shop their most expensive asset?
Yelich is still owed $26 million per year across the next five seasons, with a mutual option and $6.5 MM buyout for 2029.
It stands to reason that Milwaukee would eat a significant chunk of it to capitalize on Yelich’s 2023 campaign to move him. Just how much money is probably the determining factor in whether talks move forward or not.
Yelich has a no-trade clause. But it’s not a crazy assumption to think he’d have no trouble waiving it for the former Westlake High School star to move closer to home and play for the Dodgers.
To further help his case, Yelich still rates pretty well defensively, coming in with an Outs Above Average in the 84th percentile last season.
https://www.truebluela.com/2023/11/15/23959373/dodgers-brewers-trade-rumors-corbin-burnes-christian-yelich |
Yeah, wonder how much they'd have to eat to move him.
$26M x 5 = $130M + $6.5M buyout = $136.5M
I'd say if they ate $10/per + the $6.5M buyout
That leaves $16M x 5 yrs = $80M |
Interesting. If you could get it down to basically a 5 year deal for $80MM, and if that lessened the cost of getting Burnes (or even Williams), let's say, then that becomes much more realistic to the Dodgers imo. |
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That's basically how much Colorado ate to get rid of Arenado:
| Quote: | Nolan Arenado trade grades: Cardinals fleece Rockies in deal for star third baseman
Colorado gets an 'F' for a meager return
Rockies trade:
- 3B Nolan Arenado,
- approximately $51 million
Cardinals trade:
- LHP Austin Gomber,
- INF Mateo Gil,
- INF Elehuris Montero,
- RHP Tony Locey, and
- RHP Jake Sommers
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NEW YORK (AP) — Nolan Arenado’s contract was amended when the All-Star third baseman was traded to the Cardinals by the Colorado Rockies, adding a $15 million salary for 2027 to leave him owed $214 million over seven seasons by St. Louis.
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As part of the trade, the Rockies agreed to pay St. Louis $51 million of the $199 million remaining at the time.....
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As part of the amendment reached when Arenado agreed to the Feb. 1 trade, a $15 million salary was added for 2027, when he turns 36.
While his original contract allowed him to opt out after the 2021 season, the amended contract allows him to opt out after either 2021 or 2022.
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So basically, St Louis got Arenado for 7 yrs $163M.
But he had 2 opt outs, 2021 and 2022. |
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Ohtani wins AL MVP unanimously. Shocker!
Acuña also wins NL MVP unanimously....I don't know what to say to that.
He had a spectacular year, without a doubt, but I am curious to the rationale of the voters. Was he so far beyond Mookie and Freddie that neither of them didn't deserve any first place votes? Do they feel Mookie and Freddie cancel each other out, but Olson doesn't for Acuña? I'm not at all mad Acuña won, but I am genuinely curious to the voters' mindset which made him a unanimous choice. Perhaps the Dodger fan in me just wanted to see Mookie and Freddie at least get some first place votes as recognition for the season they just had. |
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| Lamar's Bud wrote: | Ohtani wins AL MVP unanimously. Shocker!
Acuña also wins NL MVP unanimously....I don't know what to say to that.
He had a spectacular year, without a doubt, but I am curious to the rationale of the voters. Was he so far beyond Mookie and Freddie that neither of them didn't deserve any first place votes? Do they feel Mookie and Freddie cancel each other out, but Olson doesn't for Acuña? I'm not at all mad Acuña won, but I am genuinely curious to the voters' mindset which made him a unanimous choice. Perhaps the Dodger fan in me just wanted to see Mookie and Freddie at least get some first place votes as recognition for the season they just had. |
It was just because of his gaudy steals numbers, even though by advanced stats they weren't that valuable. He had just as much help from Olson as our duo did together. And by the numbers, Mookie was either equally as valuable (fWar) or slightly more valuable (bWar). |
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| Lamar's Bud wrote: | Ohtani wins AL MVP unanimously. Shocker!
Acuña also wins NL MVP unanimously....I don't know what to say to that.
He had a spectacular year, without a doubt, but I am curious to the rationale of the voters. Was he so far beyond Mookie and Freddie that neither of them didn't deserve any first place votes? Do they feel Mookie and Freddie cancel each other out, but Olson doesn't for Acuña? I'm not at all mad Acuña won, but I am genuinely curious to the voters' mindset which made him a unanimous choice. Perhaps the Dodger fan in me just wanted to see Mookie and Freddie at least get some first place votes as recognition for the season they just had. |
Unanimous to me just means everybody agrees that Acuna is the MVP this yr. I don't have a problem with everyone agreeing he's the MVP. It seemed pretty clear to me.
Betts was a close 2nd, but still 2nd.
Whether vote was 27-3, 28-2, 29-1, or 30-0, it was going to be a landslide either way.
Betts lost that award when the Braves came and swept us 4-0 in that pivotal September matchup. And Betts had a poor September down the stretch. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Lamar's Bud wrote: | Ohtani wins AL MVP unanimously. Shocker!
Acuña also wins NL MVP unanimously....I don't know what to say to that.
He had a spectacular year, without a doubt, but I am curious to the rationale of the voters. Was he so far beyond Mookie and Freddie that neither of them didn't deserve any first place votes? Do they feel Mookie and Freddie cancel each other out, but Olson doesn't for Acuña? I'm not at all mad Acuña won, but I am genuinely curious to the voters' mindset which made him a unanimous choice. Perhaps the Dodger fan in me just wanted to see Mookie and Freddie at least get some first place votes as recognition for the season they just had. |
Unanimous to me just means everybody agrees that Acuna is the MVP this yr. I don't have a problem with everyone agreeing he's the MVP. It seemed pretty clear to me.
Betts was a close 2nd, but still 2nd.
Whether vote was 27-3, 28-2, 29-1, or 30-0, it was going to be a landslide either way.
Betts lost that award when the Braves came and swept us 4-0 in that pivotal September matchup. And Betts had a poor September down the stretch. |
Sure! It’s not like everyone has to mutually agree like in a jury trial.
I also figured with the whole 40-70, a great overall season, playing for the team with the best record, it made him a clear favorite to win, but not necessarily unanimously. That late season series definitely swung the pendulum far in RA’s favor with the MVP race. It was going to be decisive.
I’m just surprised and disappointed no one gave a first place vote to Mookie, who pretty much matched all the offensive categories (sans SBs) and also played a pivotal role filling in defensively at 2B when we lost our projected starter in Spring Training.
Whether he gets 0 votes or 1 it doesn’t matter to the result, but I just thought he may have gotten some “love” with a vote or two. I also think it’s possible people didn’t want to be outed as the one person who didn’t vote for RA like when Fred Hickman voted for Iverson over Shaq in 2000. |
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| Lamar's Bud wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Lamar's Bud wrote: | Ohtani wins AL MVP unanimously. Shocker!
Acuña also wins NL MVP unanimously....I don't know what to say to that.
He had a spectacular year, without a doubt, but I am curious to the rationale of the voters. Was he so far beyond Mookie and Freddie that neither of them didn't deserve any first place votes? Do they feel Mookie and Freddie cancel each other out, but Olson doesn't for Acuña? I'm not at all mad Acuña won, but I am genuinely curious to the voters' mindset which made him a unanimous choice. Perhaps the Dodger fan in me just wanted to see Mookie and Freddie at least get some first place votes as recognition for the season they just had. |
Unanimous to me just means everybody agrees that Acuna is the MVP this yr. I don't have a problem with everyone agreeing he's the MVP. It seemed pretty clear to me.
Betts was a close 2nd, but still 2nd.
Whether vote was 27-3, 28-2, 29-1, or 30-0, it was going to be a landslide either way.
Betts lost that award when the Braves came and swept us 4-0 in that pivotal September matchup. And Betts had a poor September down the stretch. |
Sure! It’s not like everyone has to mutually agree like in a jury trial.
I also figured with the whole 40-70, a great overall season, playing for the team with the best record, it made him a clear favorite to win, but not necessarily unanimously. That late season series definitely swung the pendulum far in RA’s favor with the MVP race. It was going to be decisive.
I’m just surprised and disappointed no one gave a first place vote to Mookie, who pretty much matched all the offensive categories (sans SBs) and also played a pivotal role filling in defensively at 2B when we lost our projected starter in Spring Training.
Whether he gets 0 votes or 1 it doesn’t matter to the result, but I just thought he may have gotten some “love” with a vote or two. I also think it’s possible people didn’t want to be outed as the one person who didn’t vote for RA like when Fred Hickman voted for Iverson over Shaq in 2000. |
Gotcha. Usually there's always a couple voters who vote the other way. |
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I agree with Lamar's Bud. It should not have been unanimous. The voters are more than aware of the WAR metrics now, and Mookie was either basically even or barely ahead in those. Here's my problem with the media: they aren't consistent. I have no issue with Acuna winning, but it should not have been a landslide. Is WAR valuable, or isn't it? Take last year's AL MVP vote. WAR said that Judge was a lot more valuable, even though what Ohtani did last season was singular and had never been done before, at that high of a level as both a pitcher and as a hitter. And the voters cited WAR heavily in giving it to Judge, who won it in an absolute rout. OK, now with this NL MVP vote, you have Acuna doing something "singular", with all the gaudy hitting stats plus the stolen bases, but Mookie was actually slightly ahead of him overall if you aggregate the WAR metrics. So why unanimous for the guy who didn't lead in WAR?
One of the only things I agree with Trump on: the media sucks lol. (Let's not go down a political rabbit hole, please. Just having a little fun.) |
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^Regardless of the sport and award, there's always major subjectivity (bias?), inconsistency, and changing narrative. That's the most aggravating part to the fans who are so deeply invested in the sport.
The reality is that these voters are journalists, who by nature/habit/inclination always like a good "story" and that's why we see such wildly inconsistent patterns with who wins an MVP and "why".
A) Is it the guy who had the best individual season (or accomplishment) - regardless of team record?
B) Is it the guy whose team would be completely lost and unwatchable without him?
C) Is it the best player on the best (top 1-3) team during the season?
The unfortunate part is that these media awards can have a ridiculous influence on a player's legacy. It's a travesty that Nash has 2 MVPs while Kobe and Shaq each have 1. Although Nash was pretty damn great, I just can't look at a list of multi-time winners and think that he belongs among them. In both of those seasons, he would fit under category "C", whereas Kobe was "B", and Shaq/Dirk and LeBron/Dirk were "A" in those years.
Then you get to 2016-2017 where Westbrook averages a triple-double and is awarded MVP despite his team finishing 6th in the West. So much for the award going to a guy on a "top" team there....BUT he has the best story because he averaged a triple-double.
It's seriously nothing but a popularity contest and voter fatigue. |
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Seems like the voters are really aligned with each other this year:
| Quote: | NL Cy Young Voting:
Snell: 28 votes
Webb: 1 vote
Gallen: 1 vote
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| Quote: | AL Cy Young Voting:
Cole: 30 votes
Gray: 0 votes
Gausman: 0 votes
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| Quote: | AL MVP Voting:
Ohtani: 30 votes
Seager: 0 votes
Simien: 0 votes
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| Quote: | NL MVP Voting:
Acuna: 30 votes
Betts: 0 votes
Freeman: 0 votes
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Some more predictions on free agency:
https://nypost.com/2023/11/17/sports/heymans-mlb-free-agency-predictions-for-ohtani-bellinger-and-more/
| Quote: | 1) Shohei Ohtani
Expert 1: $535M / 11 years ($48.6M)
Expert 2: $400M / 10 years (opt-out after 2024) / ($40M)
Jon Heyman: $600M / 10 years / $60M |
| Quote: | 2) Cody Bellinger
Now healthy, he recaptured past hitting skill to go with terrific all-around play. The incumbent Cubs, Yankees and Giants are in play.
Expert 1: $220M / 8 years / ($27.5M)
Expert 2: $150M / 6 years / ($25M)
Jon Heyman: $240M / 8 years / ($30M) |
| Quote: | 3) Matt Chapman
A nagging finger injury curtailed his hitting in 2023 (.204 after April, .240 overall) but he’s one of the game’s best defenders and still a 4-WAR player.
Expert 1: $156M / 6 years ($26M)
Expert 2: $80M / 4 years (opt-out after 2024) / ($20M)
Jon Heyman: $150M / 6 years / ($25M) |
| Quote: | 4) Teoscar Hernandez
Late rally ensured fourth straight 25-homer season.
Expert 1: $68M / 4 years / ($17M)
Expert 2: $42M / 3 years / ($14M)
Jon Heyman: $48M / 3 years / ($16M) |
| Quote: | 5) J.D. Martinez:
He had a big year, but Dodgers had to make room for Ohtani.
Expert 1: $63M / 3 years / ($21M)
Expert 2: $15M / 1 year / ($15M)
Jon Heyman: $44M / 2 years / ($22M) |
| Quote: | 10) Jorge Soler
Lucky to escape the qualifying offer after 36-homer season.
Expert 1: $42M / 3 years / ($14M)
Expert 2: $34M / 2 years / ($17M)
Jon Heyman: $36M / 2 years / ($18M) |
| Quote: | 14) Justin Turner
Big year in Boston made $6.7M opt-out easy call.
Expert 1: $14M / 1 year / ($14M)
Expert 2: $12M / 1 year / ($12M)
Jon Heyman: $22M / 2 years / ($11M) |
| Quote: | 15) Jason Heyward
Had his best year when least expected.
Expert 1: $17M / 2 years / ($8.5M)
Expert 2: $7M / 1 year / ($7M)
Jon Heyman: $12M / 1 year / ($12M) |
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| Lamar's Bud wrote: | Ohtani wins AL MVP unanimously. Shocker!
Acuña also wins NL MVP unanimously....I don't know what to say to that.
He had a spectacular year, without a doubt, but I am curious to the rationale of the voters. Was he so far beyond Mookie and Freddie that neither of them didn't deserve any first place votes? Do they feel Mookie and Freddie cancel each other out, but Olson doesn't for Acuña? I'm not at all mad Acuña won, but I am genuinely curious to the voters' mindset which made him a unanimous choice. Perhaps the Dodger fan in me just wanted to see Mookie and Freddie at least get some first place votes as recognition for the season they just had. |
As if defense doesn’t matter in the votes |
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| Brewers non-tender Brandon Woodruff. His free agency case is going to be an interesting one, as he is expected to miss much of, and possibly all, of the 2024 season. There was talk that the Brewers were going to have a shot at trading him, but obviously that didn't come to fruition before today's non-tender deadline. They could have tendered him and then tried to trade him afterward, but that just goes to show you that they weren't willing to possibly incur paying him something like $11-12MM in arbitration this year. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Brewers non-tender Brandon Woodruff. His free agency case is going to be an interesting one, as he is expected to miss much of, and possibly all, of the 2024 season. There was talk that the Brewers were going to have a shot at trading him, but obviously that didn't come to fruition before today's non-tender deadline. They could have tendered him and then tried to trade him afterward, but that just goes to show you that they weren't willing to possibly incur paying him something like $11-12MM in arbitration this year. |
Whoaaaa
Definitely not expected.
This is what I thought we should have done with Buehler last yr. Let’s see what Buehler gives us next year. |
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| We brought back Yency Almonte for $1.9MM. Didn't non-tender him, and he avoids arbitration. |
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Are the Dodgers still the most likely spot for Ohtani?
I can't believe he would really sign in Atlanta, Chicago isn't a proven winner and Anaheim means a career never in the playoffs probably.
Are the Yankees or Mets really a possibility?
And who else might the Dodgers sign, especially from a starting pitching perpsective?
Love what you guys do here, appreciate any feedback to any of the above.
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | Are the Dodgers still the most likely spot for Ohtani? |
It's anyone's guess what the deciding factor will be. The Dodgers are the (obvious) "favorite" because of 1) proximity to his current team/home - he doesn't even have to move 2) a team that's been regularly in the playoffs 3) have an ownership willing to spend and 4) "closer" to Japan.
| Quote: | | I can't believe he would really sign in Atlanta, Chicago isn't a proven winner and Anaheim means a career never in the playoffs probably. |
| Quote: | | Are the Yankees or Mets really a possibility? |
I'd be shocked if Ohtani returns to Anaheim. That's him basically waving the white flag on ever winning a World Series after what we've witnessed with Trout.
Atlanta/Chicago/San Francisco/Seattle/Yankees/Mets are all teams that can give some combination of strong winning potential, salary, location, and proximity to Japan. However the Dodgers seem to be the only team that can give him "all" of that. He'd have to compromise on any of those things if he chose to go to a different team, but even then we can't ignore the human element of him simply liking one place/team better.
| Quote: | | And who else might the Dodgers sign, especially from a starting pitching perpsective? |
That's honestly the hardest thing to answer. Pitching is so volatile between injuries and performance. I doubt the Dodgers make any play for the few other "big" free agents (SP or not) with Ohtani being squarely in their sights.
This team needs starting pitching in the worst way, but AF is going to have to get creative with trades and diamonds in the rough. Friedman's m.o. has been to sign pitchers as 1 or 2-year reclamation projects and I'm not really expecting him to deviate from that.
I wish they had let the Bauer situation play out before deciding to cut ties because he could have possibly been brought back after this season as a piece of the rotation. |
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I can't see Friedman leaving this offseason without one big-ticket starting pitcher, and quite possibly two, and I'm not including Ohtani in that equation, since he obviously won't be pitching in 2024. So we'll be in on the likes of Snell, Nola, and Yamamoto in free agency, and possibly in on trade talks for the likes of Burnes, Glasnow, and Cease. My guess is that we're more likely to pull off the latter than the former, even though a trade will cost us some prospect capital. I get the feeling that Friedman would rather pay a little bit of prospect freight to have short-term cost certainty on a potential ace, as opposed to paying $150-250MM for one over many years. Of course, maybe we'll do both. |
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| Quote: | The latest odds for the Japanese sensation came out, and the Dodgers are currently the favorites to sign him.
They sit at +400 to land him according to BetOnline, and if this were to happen it would be a complete game changer for the team.
Right behind them is the New York Yankees at +500, then the New York Mets at +600.
It has been reported that Yamamoto prefers to play in a big market, giving all three of these teams a leg up over others.
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So we’re the favorites for both Ohtani and Yamamoto |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Quote: | The latest odds for the Japanese sensation came out, and the Dodgers are currently the favorites to sign him.
They sit at +400 to land him according to BetOnline, and if this were to happen it would be a complete game changer for the team.
Right behind them is the New York Yankees at +500, then the New York Mets at +600.
It has been reported that Yamamoto prefers to play in a big market, giving all three of these teams a leg up over others.
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So we’re the favorites for both Ohtani and Yamamoto |
Sure sounded like NBA free agency, when Lakers are favored to sign all household names, then ended up with couple vet minimum guys. Still don’t trust Friedman will all that money, he will nickels and dime until everyone’s signed. |
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1995Lakers
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| Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Quote: | The latest odds for the Japanese sensation came out, and the Dodgers are currently the favorites to sign him.
They sit at +400 to land him according to BetOnline, and if this were to happen it would be a complete game changer for the team.
Right behind them is the New York Yankees at +500, then the New York Mets at +600.
It has been reported that Yamamoto prefers to play in a big market, giving all three of these teams a leg up over others.
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So we’re the favorites for both Ohtani and Yamamoto |
A lot of these Japanese guys are clutch as hell too. Ohtani, Im not worried about.....he may or may not struggle in a single given postseason as that is always a crapshoot no matter how naturally clutch you are based on momentum/your condition/opposing pitcher/luck (as we saw with the naturally clutch Muncy, JT and Freddie this past year) but I have no doubt he wont be as hopeless in big moments as guys who are predestined to fail in big moments like Trea Turner. I saw a great approach and toughness from him when it counted.
Guys like Tanaka, Kuroda, Maeda, Matsuzaka....these dudes were money and you could immediately tell they would succeed in postseason baseball. Likewise, I always said Darvish IS NOT a guy you could trust - dude is soft and was always soft. On another note, its a damn shame we never threw out a Japanese ace reliever in 08 and 09 due to injury or just trusting Broxton because Saito would have never bombed the way Broxton did. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Sources: Phillies, Aaron Nola agree to 7-year, $172M deal |
This takes them out of the running for Yamamoto |
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