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Lamar's Bud
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Quote: | OptaSTATS
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Shohei Ohtani of the @Dodgers is the second NL player to have at least 50 extra-base hits and 20 stolen bases prior to the All-Star break, joining Bobby Bonds, who did so for the Giants in 1973.
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Based on talent, it is surprising, but after looking at his stats it makes sense now. A lot of it is bad luck and circumstance.
2018 - 111 GP, 56 XBH, 16 SB
2019 - 156 GP, 85 XBH, 37 SB
2020 - COVID SEASON - only 40 hits total
2021 - 82 GP - ACL injury
2022 - 119 GP, 39 XBH, 29 SB
2023 - 159 GP, 80 XBH, 73 SB - MVP SEASON
2024 - 49 GP - ACL injury
He's now lost 2 seasons to an ACL injury, and then the 1 COVID-shortened season where he only had 40 hits total. 2019 and 2023 were the only years he could have done it, but then it's about "pace". With 80 XBH in a full season (1 XBH every 2.025 games), he'd have to be right ahead of that pace up to the ASG (~95 games, or 1 XBH every 1.9 games).
What this just tells us is that Ohtani is an absolute baseball freak and nothing short of amazing. Before today's game, 88 GP with 109 Hits, 53 XBH (49% of his hits!!!) |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Glasnow to the IL with back tightness. Hopefully, it's a fake IL stint just to keep his innings down. Looks like he won't be pitching in the All-Star Game now. Perhaps one of Stone, Phillips, or Vesia will replace him. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Glasnow to the IL with back tightness. Hopefully, it's a fake IL stint just to keep his innings down. Looks like he won't be pitching in the All-Star Game now. Perhaps one of Stone, Phillips, or Vesia will replace him. |
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Didn’t they say at the beginning of the year that there will be no innings restrictions placed on Glasnow?
Nevertheless, keeping his innings down is a very prudent thing to do based on his innings history. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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Bobby Mlller is getting hammered in the second inning.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Dodgers currently have one of the best IL rotations you'll ever see
Tyler Glasnow
Yoshinobu Yamamoto
Shohei Ohtani
Clayton Kershaw
Walker Buehler
Oh, and Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin and Emmet Sheehan as your depth |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Every time Miller walks a batter, it goes south from there. He needs to get tougher mentally. |
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Miller needs a sports psychologist |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| that's it, this team is not good at coming from behind. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Lux, Outman, and Biggio in the line up with Miller pitching. This game was over before it even started. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I have officially turned the game off. LOL. 9-0 and it's only the 4th inning. So including Sunday's game, we allowed 18 runs in 13 innings. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Hopefully the team does something magical. They always do when I turn the game off early. |
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| That pitch that Miller hung to Trea was sooooo bad |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | That pitch that Miller hung to Trea was sooooo bad |
Glad I missed the game…. Dodgers back .500 ball these past few weeks..
Need a starting pitcher and an infielder with a bat |
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | DuncanIdaho wrote: | | That pitch that Miller hung to Trea was sooooo bad |
Glad I missed the game…. Dodgers back .500 ball these past few weeks..
Need a starting pitcher and an infielder with a bat |
Would love to see them trade for Crochet |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Injuries have ruined two young Dodoger aces in Buehler and Bobby Miller. I don’t think this has ever happened before to any club with a young ace, not to mention two. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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We are limping to all star break. Still 5 more games to go.
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Miller wasn't even a strikeout pitcher averaging 99 on his fastball. Now he's at 97 after the shoulder injury and it's like he's Buehler. No putaway pitch. His 97 is like a meatball. Vesia's 93-95 is like unhittable. Baseball is funny like that. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | Injuries have ruined two young Dodoger aces in Buehler and Bobby Miller. I don’t think this has ever happened before to any club with a young ace, not to mention two. |
If Bobby Miller is struggling due to his shoulder injury, then he should have had surgery and not have come back.
Our medical staff is just so inept. We can't get anyone to come back fully healthy... |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| I was listening to Dodgers post game radio and seems like the fanbase got a huge dose of reality today. Dodgers are far from the best teams in the MLB and got some work to do. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | I was listening to Dodgers post game radio and seems like the fanbase got a huge dose of reality today. Dodgers are far from the best teams in the MLB and got some work to do. |
It's hard to judge since we're so banged up at the moment.
We certainly aren't playing well either. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:40 am Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Miller wasn't even a strikeout pitcher averaging 99 on his fastball. Now he's at 97 after the shoulder injury and it's like he's Buehler. No putaway pitch. His 97 is like a meatball. Vesia's 93-95 is like unhittable. Baseball is funny like that. |
I think he shows the ball too much. Mookie was talking about this. How 100 can feel like 100 so long as he doesn't "see" the pitch coming. So it's about extension, grip, holding the ball back. Vesia has a really crazy angle he comes at (especially for lefties), so no one even really sees the ball until it is out of his hand and his 93-95 just comes in fast.
Bobby clearly cannot be doing that -- otherwise it would not be so easy to time it. Doesn't help his offspeed is actually kind of crap - really easy to spit on it as batters can tell what it is out the gate (and usually that it is a ball) and either sit fastball or wait for a meatball offspeed. Compare that to Gavin Stone, whose pure stuff isn't as good, but his fastball clearly plays and his offspeed all starts off as a strike before falling off the plate. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | Injuries have ruined two young Dodoger aces in Buehler and Bobby Miller. I don’t think this has ever happened before to any club with a young ace, not to mention two. |
And Dustin May. May had better stuff and command than Miller out the gate. Buehler at least we squeezed some stuff out and I think the spider tack ruined him more (second TSJ came after, but Buehler had already lost his K ability once spider tack went away). |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| Cutheon wrote: | | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | Injuries have ruined two young Dodoger aces in Buehler and Bobby Miller. I don’t think this has ever happened before to any club with a young ace, not to mention two. |
And Dustin May. May had better stuff and command than Miller out the gate. Buehler at least we squeezed some stuff out and I think the spider tack ruined him more (second TSJ came after, but Buehler had already lost his K ability once spider tack went away). |
Yep. May's stuff was as filthy as I've ever seen. His command was not always there however. Also, though Gonsolin was never quite in this league, I saw him as a solid #3 with #2 potential.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | Injuries have ruined two young Dodoger aces in Buehler and Bobby Miller. I don’t think this has ever happened before to any club with a young ace, not to mention two. |
Mark Prior and Kerry Wood would like to have a word.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | Quote: | Dodgers currently have one of the best IL rotations you'll ever see
Tyler Glasnow
Yoshinobu Yamamoto
Shohei Ohtani
Clayton Kershaw
Walker Buehler
Oh, and Dustin May, Tony Gonsolin and Emmet Sheehan as your depth |
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As I like to call them...
TEAM KAWHI |
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