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ChickenStu
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| Padres praying for the Mets to hold on, because it means that no matter what, they avoid Sale in Game 1. I'm telling you, if the Braves had any brains, they would hold back Sale even if they lose this one. The Mets are going to be beyond spent and happy as hell if they win this one. They will NOT win the second game, I don't care who Atlanta throws. Have some balls and consider the war and not just the battle, Atlanta! |
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1995Lakers
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Again....what does this prove???? One team can outchoke the other??? And this is why baseball playoffs are complete unmitigated garbage. Remember 2022 when all the 100+ win teams got eliminated in the Division Series???? Or the disaster of trash Rangers vs Diamondbacks last year. Telling Friedman to be able to build a team that can win in the playoffs is like telling him to become a better Vegas gambler. He can improve by seeing the trends but even then its a complete crapshoot with garbage unpredictable results like this game happening.
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| 1995Lakers wrote: | | Again....what does this prove???? One team can outchoke the other??? And this is why baseball playoffs are complete unmitigated garbage. Remember 2022 when all the 100+ win teams got eliminated in the Division Series???? Or the disaster of trash Rangers vs Diamondbacks last year. |
I do agree that WC takes away from the best teams going at it in the post season. But it adds excitement to the regular season. Games down the stretch means something. Still if I had to choose then I chose no WC series. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| With that win by the Mets the Dbags dream of a sweep by a team have gone down and so have the Braves chances of winning the WC series in SD. They had 2 chances of winning. |
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oasisdude77
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| So it's confirmed Mets vs Padres now, right? |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| oasisdude77 wrote: | | So it's confirmed Mets vs Padres now, right? |
I think if Mets lose the second game then it's still going to be Braves and Padres due to Braves owning the tie breaker over Mets. |
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | oasisdude77 wrote: | | So it's confirmed Mets vs Padres now, right? |
I think if Mets lose the second game then it's still going to be Braves and Padres due to Braves owning the tie breaker over Mets. |
That is correct. And if the Braves do use Sale and get in and then play the Padres, it means that Fried almost certainly has to win Game 1 for them. Game 2 would likely have to be a bullpen game, and then in Game 3 it would be Reynaldo Lopez (with Morton potentially available on 3 days' rest). They'd be enormous underdogs for Game 2.
I really would hold Sale back here. The Mets will rest Lindor and Alonso and their best position players here. They won't throw any pitcher they plan on needing for this next series. Have some balls! |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | aprevo15 wrote: | | oasisdude77 wrote: | | So it's confirmed Mets vs Padres now, right? |
I think if Mets lose the second game then it's still going to be Braves and Padres due to Braves owning the tie breaker over Mets. |
That is correct. And if the Braves do use Sale and get in and then play the Padres, it means that Fried almost certainly has to win Game 1 for them. Game 2 would likely have to be a bullpen game, and then in Game 3 it would be Reynaldo Lopez (with Morton potentially available on 3 days' rest). They'd be enormous underdogs for Game 2.
I really would hold Sale back here. The Mets will rest Lindor and Alonso and their best position players here. They won't throw any pitcher they plan on needing for this next series. Have some balls! |
I think that's what they should do as well. You can always have him come out of the bullpen if they feel that the game is about to get out of control right? |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Mets just gained the whole state of AZ as their fans for this next game. |
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Lamar's Bud
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | aprevo15 wrote: | | oasisdude77 wrote: | | So it's confirmed Mets vs Padres now, right? |
I think if Mets lose the second game then it's still going to be Braves and Padres due to Braves owning the tie breaker over Mets. |
That is correct. And if the Braves do use Sale and get in and then play the Padres, it means that Fried almost certainly has to win Game 1 for them. Game 2 would likely have to be a bullpen game, and then in Game 3 it would be Reynaldo Lopez (with Morton potentially available on 3 days' rest). They'd be enormous underdogs for Game 2.
I really would hold Sale back here. The Mets will rest Lindor and Alonso and their best position players here. They won't throw any pitcher they plan on needing for this next series. Have some balls! |
It's an interesting situation. With a postseason birth secured, the Mets really don't have much incentive to go "all-out" to win game 2. But if they have a strong preference of playing Padres or Brewers, then that may dictate how they will play game 2. There is always the added benefit of screwing over your division rival here too.
Had the Braves won game 1, then they literally would have nothing to play for in game 2 with a matchup against SD guaranteed. It'd only be whether they wanted to keep the Mets out of the post season.
While I can agree with the strategy of keeping Sale for the WC Series, I can't see how ATL is going to save him for a hypothetical series with the season on the line. No sense in planning for tomorrow if they can't take care of business today. They'll just have to make due with whoever else is available for the WC Series. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Sale is NOT starting now! "Back spasms." LOL. If they advance, he'll magically be fine to start tomorrow in San Diego. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Holmes is listed as the starter for Braves. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Sale is NOT starting now! "Back spasms." LOL. If they advance, he'll magically be fine to start tomorrow in San Diego. |
Snitker down low reading this thread and read your post. LOL |
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Lamar's Bud
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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After tonight, Snit will either be a total genius or a complete fool.
For his sake, hopefully his job isn't dependent on them winning. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Sale is NOT starting now! "Back spasms." LOL. If they advance, he'll magically be fine to start tomorrow in San Diego. |
Snitker down low reading this thread and read your post. LOL |
Definitely playing with fire as it'd be a really bad look if they end up going down with their Cy Young winning ace on the bench. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, nothing is guaranteed in baseball, no matter who's on the field.
Arizona couldn't beat SD and what did they have to play for? |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | ^
Yeah, nothing is guaranteed in baseball, no matter who's on the field.
Arizona couldn't beat SD and what did they have to play for? |
One thing for sure is it sure feels nice be on the outside looking in. 
Feels good to watch some baseball without stress.
This is the first time watching both games of a double header that doesn't have the Dodgers in it. |
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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I believe that Snitker has already announced that next year will be his last, and then he's retiring. Another thing to consider about Sale is that he hasn't started a game in 12 days now. Maybe there is something really going on with him. Or maybe, as I suspect, they've just been holding him back because they wanted to get him extra rest before that start that never came during the washouts/rainouts, and then they figured they'd hold him back for a potential elimination game over the weekend, and now in this specific circumstance maybe they are taking a calculated risk that the Mets have little to no motivation to win this game. (They very well may not want to play the Padres.)
On the broadcast, they are making it sound like he's really hurting. But that could just be fluff. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| The Mets are swinging at everything, predictably, wanting this game to end as quickly as possible. Still just a 1-0 Braves lead though, so they are still in the danger zone. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | The Mets are swinging at everything, predictably, wanting this game to end as quickly as possible. Still just a 1-0 Braves lead though, so they are still in the danger zone. |
Feels like the Braves are in trouble. Way too close for comfort. Leadoff man on for the Mets down 1 in 5th |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Braves get out of it. Mets got 2 on nobody out and did absolutely nothing with it. They just want the game to end. Braves need to score a couple more runs and this one is over. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Snipes wrote: | | Braves get out of it. Mets got 2 on nobody out and did absolutely nothing with it. They just want the game to end. Braves need to score a couple more runs and this one is over. |
I know the Mets just lost 2 of 3 in Milwaukee, but to me, playing the Brewers lines up as the much easier series. They really have every reason to lose this game. |
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| MLB should have made it a 1 game day. Whoever wins it gets credit for 2 wins for the seeding. The whole point of everyone having the same game time start yesterday was to avoid this type of thing. Not only is this game unwatchable but it would have made the first game more exciting. As much as IDGAF about the dbags, it's really unfair for them. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Lopez in relief 2 days after starting, and that start was his first coming off the IL. Now there's almost no way he can go in a potential Game 2 or even Game 3, so the Braves are going to need Sale badly. He doesn't have to start Game 1, as Fried is a good option for sure, but he's going to need to come back for Game 2 if they lose. I suppose if the Braves win Game 1, they could give Sale even further time. This is, if he's even OK to pitch. |
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| Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | MLB should have made it a 1 game day. Whoever wins it gets credit for 2 wins for the seeding. The whole point of everyone having the same game time start yesterday was to avoid this type of thing. Not only is this game unwatchable but it would have made the first game more exciting. As much as IDGAF about the dbags, it's really unfair for them. |
I understand what people mean when they say this because NYM and ATL have the power of hindsight and "know" the circumstances they're playing for. But then again ARI went 13-13 in September.
If one game is all the difference between making the playoffs and not, then they only have themselves to blame. They lost 2 games to the Rockies, 3 to SF, and 3 to SD. You need to take care of business in your division if you want to make the playoffs. ARI didn't do that in September. |
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