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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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DuncanIdaho wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | Looks like all road teams so far today |
Ragans and Skubal are total beasts so those games aren't surprising to me at all. |
Burnes was great too, but on the short end of the stick as they head to the bottom of the 9th. |
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | Looks like all road teams so far today |
Home field just isn’t that big of an advantage in MLB. That’s why I didn’t see much of an advantage having a #1 seed instead of a #2.
The media talked a lot about how important home field was for the World Series when the winner of the all-star game got home field, but I never thought it was that important. |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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ChickenStu wrote: | I was wrong about Fried starting Game 1; he pitched last Friday, so he is going tomorrow, not today. The Braves are forced to go with a young prospect right-hander who made a few starts for them during the season, AJ Smith-Shawver. I also find it interesting that the Padres are apparently going to start Musgrove in Game 2, ahead of Cease. To me, Cease profiles as their most beastly postseason starter with all the strikeouts, so considering him as their #3 raises my eyebrow. |
Really odd. in a 3 game series, game 2 is either a must win or a chance to clinch. Why save your best for last. Could be a gamble - if you think you are going to sweep, this lines up Cease for game 1 of the NLDS. |
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JerryWest_44 Retired Number
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JD Martinez knocks in 2 runs |
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SGV-Laker fan Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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There is no home field advantage in baseball postseason whatsoever. Looks like home teams always play tight and nervous while road teams play free and lose like they’re playing with house money.
I can even go on and say baseball is the only sport that you play poorly when pressures on. |
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aprevo15 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | There is no home field advantage in baseball postseason whatsoever. Looks like home teams always play tight and nervous while road teams play free and lose like they’re playing with house money.
I can even go on and say baseball is the only sport that you play poorly when pressures on. |
Yeah. Also when you have a bad at-bat you have to wait for 8 other players before it's your turn again. That's a lot of time in between. |
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aprevo15 wrote: | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | There is no home field advantage in baseball postseason whatsoever. Looks like home teams always play tight and nervous while road teams play free and lose like they’re playing with house money.
I can even go on and say baseball is the only sport that you play poorly when pressures on. |
Yeah. Also when you have a bad at-bat you have to wait for 8 other players before it's your turn again. That's a lot of time in between. |
Golf is the other sport I can think of (or pool if you consider that a sport) that is like that. Margin of error is razor thin for these sports so you gotta be relaxed. _________________ KOBE |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | There is no home field advantage in baseball postseason whatsoever. Looks like home teams always play tight and nervous while road teams play free and lose like they’re playing with house money.
I can even go on and say baseball is the only sport that you play poorly when pressures on. |
Yeah there’s something about fighting for ur playoff lives until the very end of the season vs already clinching a playoff spot early.
I’ll also add this:
Baseball’s the only sport where there’s 2 entirely different games:
Regular season baseball vs playoff baseball
A great example is how to build a pitching staff to win in the regular season:
You need tons of depth. You don’t really need an ace, just a bunch of good pitchers (like no. 2-3s). This will win you many games.
In the playoffs, u can shorten your rotation to 3 starters. You don’t need any depth as all. As long as you have 3 good/great starters, you’re good. |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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When did Albies stop switch hitting? Man on first, facing a righty, Ozzie Albies, switch hitter, hit righty...weird. |
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DuncanIdaho Franchise Player
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Cutheon wrote: | When did Albies stop switch hitting? Man on first, facing a righty, Ozzie Albies, switch hitter, hit righty...weird. |
He came back early from his broken hand and had pain so he's only hitting from the right hand side. |
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Steve007 wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | Looks like all road teams so far today |
Home field just isn’t that big of an advantage in MLB. That’s why I didn’t see much of an advantage having a #1 seed instead of a #2.
The media talked a lot about how important home field was for the World Series when the winner of the all-star game got home field, but I never thought it was that important. |
Usually it isn't in MLB, but there are some exceptions such as Philadelphia, Boston and yes Dodger Stadium where it is a big advantage. _________________ Love, Laker Lanny |
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aprevo15 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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LakerLanny wrote: | Steve007 wrote: | LongBeachPoly wrote: | Looks like all road teams so far today |
Home field just isn’t that big of an advantage in MLB. That’s why I didn’t see much of an advantage having a #1 seed instead of a #2.
The media talked a lot about how important home field was for the World Series when the winner of the all-star game got home field, but I never thought it was that important. |
Usually it isn't in MLB, but there are some exceptions such as Philadelphia, Boston and yes Dodger Stadium where it is a big advantage. |
Sometimes I like it when we are on the road. If we score first big then it really puts a lot of pressure on their starter. |
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Cutheon Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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This Padres team is legit |
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JerryWest_44 Retired Number
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Cutheon wrote: | This Padres team is legit |
good pitching tonite but the Dodgers are better |
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aprevo15 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Hope Flaherty throws like his buddy today. It's like Skubal is Kershaw and Flaherty is Greinke. We got the Greinke. Which is still great. LOL |
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ribeye Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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SGV-Laker fan wrote: | There is no home field advantage in baseball postseason whatsoever. Looks like home teams always play tight and nervous while road teams play free and lose like they’re playing with house money.
I can even go on and say baseball is the only sport that you play poorly when pressures on. |
There is little home field advantage in basketball during the playoffs as there is no travel, or long road trip, disadvantage. There is little, if any home field advantage for the Rams--well when they play the Niners. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo" |
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aprevo15 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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ribeye wrote: | SGV-Laker fan wrote: | There is no home field advantage in baseball postseason whatsoever. Looks like home teams always play tight and nervous while road teams play free and lose like they’re playing with house money.
I can even go on and say baseball is the only sport that you play poorly when pressures on. |
There is little home field advantage in basketball during the playoffs as there is no travel, or long road trip, disadvantage. There is little, if any home field advantage for the Rams--well when they play the Niners. |
Or Raiders. It's gonna be all Siver and Black there in a couple of weeks. |
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Dominic1981 Star Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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MLB really should reseed teams after the 1st round. Dodgers getting the Padres while a lower seeded Phillies team gets the lowest seeded Mets team really isn’t fair.
Padres were 93-69
Mets were 89-73.
Dodgers had the best record in the NL. A lot of good that does…Assuming both close it out |
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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The Mets and Padres both got hot after slow starts. Both of them are major threats (well after an 84 win Arizona team made the World Series probably every team looks like a serious threat).
On June 2 the Mets were 24-35, 11 games under .500.
The Padres were still at .500 (50-50 record) on July 19 (at the time the Mets were just 49-47).
Dodgers should definitely still get the lower seed though. But Mandred probably likes this system and has already made it clear he thinks it’s great if there are a lot of upsets. He wants another March Madness, which is an idea I hate in MLB.
Baseball is becoming more like the NHL where the top team only has around a 12% chance of winning. But I think the NHL system is better, because the top teams need 4 losses to get eliminated instead of 3. |
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ChickenStu Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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The Phillies probably weren't upset to fall to the 2 seed, I'll say that. There's no question that the Padres are, at worst, the third-best team in the NL. I actually think they should be favored to beat the Dodgers, frankly. Their starting pitching is simply superior, their bullpen is superior, and they have a great lineup too. Now, that's not to say that we can't get to their bullpen, or, hell, even their starters. But the single biggest advantage a team can have is with starting pitching, that's what affects the betting line of a game the most, for example, and you can make a case that each of the Padres' top 3 starters is better than any of our starters right now, although at least Flaherty and Yamamoto should give us a good chance to win every time out if they are throwing well and healthy.
And LBP is definitely right about the postseason favoring teams with a couple of top starters and not necessarily great depth. I think of Arizona's run to the World Series last year. They had Gallen, a legit ace, sure. They had Merrill Kelly, an experienced vet who is probably more of a #3 but was pitching like a #2 last year. After that, their third starter in the postseason was inexperienced rookie Brandon Pfaadt, who was basically in a similar position that Landon Knack is in right now, but with even worse stats last year. Their fourth starter? Oh, they didn't have one. They just went with bullpen games in the final 2 series where the fourth starter's spot came up. So this does give me some hope that our makeshift rotation after Flaherty and Yamamoto can get us to and maybe even win a World Series, but I think two things are going to have to be true. One, our bullpen is going to have to be nails. And two, we're going to need to score a lot of runs and really have our hitting shoes on. Need Shohei to go nuclear like he has been. Or, if he gets the Barry Bonds treatment with a slew of intentional walks, then Mookie and Freddie and Teo have to come through.
The Padres really worry me. They look like a team set up to win in October and they freaking hate us. They are so very motivated to beat us. We've lost 7 of our last 8 postseason games. An early NLDS exit and the temperature is really, really going to get turned up. I know Roberts has survived up to this point, with amazing regular season records. I know that management has been steadfast with saying that the postseason is somewhat of a crapshoot. But say we lose the NLDS in 4 games, which would mean we'd have lost 10 of our last 12 postseason games. The Dodgers?!?! I mean, we aren't the Orioles, who have lost 9 straight dating back to 2014. This is the mighty Dodgers, with crazy payrolls. Does Roberts survive that? Let's hope this is all moot, we get by the Padres (or Braves), and catch fire to, as Tom Berenger's Jake Taylor says in Major League, win the whole fu*king thing. |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:05 am Post subject: |
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Dominic1981 wrote: | MLB really should reseed teams after the 1st round. Dodgers getting the Padres while a lower seeded Phillies team gets the lowest seeded Mets team really isn’t fair.
Padres were 93-69
Mets were 89-73.
Dodgers had the best record in the NL. A lot of good that does…Assuming both close it out |
Some sports do, some don’t.
The NBA does not. The NCAA tournament does not.
The NFL does |
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Fwiw, the 2020 Dodger team had a weak starting rotation in the playoffs. Kershaw and Buehler were the only 2 reliable starters (and Buehler is the only one that’s clutch out of those 2). Urias wasn’t a great starter yet and was sometimes used as a starter and sometimes as a reliever. Gonsolin and May started in games and were awful. They both consistently struggled to make it past the 2nd inning. To make things worse, Jansen blew a World Series game.
But that team still won. It was one of the few Dodger teams that hit really well in the playoffs. When Gonsolin or May struggled, the team still had a reasonable chance to win. |
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LongBeachPoly Franchise Player
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Yeah
As crazy as it sounds, San Diego might have won the Soto trade (w/ the Yankees).
Picking up Michael King was a crazy good acquisition. |
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Steve007 Franchise Player
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LongBeachPoly wrote: | Dominic1981 wrote: | MLB really should reseed teams after the 1st round. Dodgers getting the Padres while a lower seeded Phillies team gets the lowest seeded Mets team really isn’t fair.
Padres were 93-69
Mets were 89-73.
Dodgers had the best record in the NL. A lot of good that does…Assuming both close it out |
Some sports do, some don’t.
The NBA does not. The NCAA tournament does not.
The NFL does |
That would be interesting to see in the NCAA. Favorites would win more often. It would be terrible for the really low seeds that surprise everyone.
I do think the NCAA has a more fair system though. It’s much easier for the 1 seeds to advance than the other seeds. They play a 16 seed which they almost always beat, then they play the winner of the 8 vs. 9 which they still almost always win. The third game is usually much tougher but the 1 seed should win it. So the 1 seed makes the Elite 8 a lot. After that the competition gets much tougher no matter what a team is seeded.
The 2 seed has very favorable matchups in the first 2 games as well before usually having a tough 3rd game.
Even with all the upsets in the first game, the top 4 seeds win the first game a high percentage of the time and it’s rare that any team below a 4 wins the tournament, and no seed below an 8 has won it.
NBA doesn’t have as many upsets as other sports so the top seeds don’t need as much help. Although I wouldn’t have an issue with the NBA doing it. |
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aprevo15 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:58 am Post subject: |
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If Mookie and Freddie show up then we should be having a parade this year. |
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