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tox Franchise Player

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Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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lakersfan8 wrote: | JJ tried a lineup with Vanderbilt and Hayes on the court together. The offense was pretty stagnant. If we trade Rui for another defensive center, this is something needs to be considered. |
No chance Vando can play with another non-shooter who isn't AD. And AD really only works because if you play through him, then there's only one non-shooter messing ups spacing.
It's why trading Rui for Poeltl makes no sense. Rui for Myles Turner makes perfect sense.
If the Lakers trade for Kessler, that totally squeezes Vando's minutes, and he becomes a situational defender for guys like Luka, Tatum, etc |
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MJST Retired Number


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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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If you trade Rui, it needs to be for a player that
- Can score akin to what he can
- Can hit threes akin to what he can
- Is a better defender than him
Those are the qualities you need in the player you trade Rui for, otherwise it's pointless to do so and you're only hindering the team _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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miggz23 Star Player

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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Awful game plan tonight to give Bronny minutes because 76ers were short handed... I think Maxey and the rest of the 76ers took that as a disrespect.
Also awful defensive coverages tonight... |
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TMG Star Player

Joined: 02 Jan 2019 Posts: 9480
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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:20 pm Post subject: |
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This dude needs to coach a team like utah or something. Sucks that we couldn't get Udoka. |
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Zillethai Star Player

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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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miggz23 wrote: | Awful game plan tonight to give Bronny minutes because 76ers were short handed... I think Maxey and the rest of the 76ers took that as a disrespect.
Also awful defensive coverages tonight... |
When Bronny was subbed in The 76ers were like "oh hell naw... you got us f&*#@ed up!" |
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sydneykb Starting Rotation

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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Wtf JJ? Should have played Cam before Bronny… you asked a G Leauger to defend Maxey?  |
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MJST Retired Number


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Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Zillethai wrote: | miggz23 wrote: | Awful game plan tonight to give Bronny minutes because 76ers were short handed... I think Maxey and the rest of the 76ers took that as a disrespect.
Also awful defensive coverages tonight... |
When Bronny was subbed in The 76ers were like "oh hell naw... you got us f&*#@ed up!" |
Wouldn't have mattered if the Lakers had AD the whole game. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player

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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:13 am Post subject: |
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As soon as he put Bronny in I tweeted he's putting him in a position to fail. Not cool. And that's exactly what he did worse than I could imagine. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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windycitycane Franchise Player


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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:07 am Post subject: |
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Pathetic coaching. Worst substitution I have ever seen.
by wanting a father to play with his son and cost us the game. _________________ "I bought the Lakers so I could beat the Celtics" - Dr. Jerry Buss |
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levon Franchise Player

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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 9:29 am Post subject: |
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windycitycane wrote: | Pathetic coaching. Worst substitution I have ever seen.
by wanting a father to play with his son and cost us the game. |
That didn't cost us the game. Us not having a viable center or being able to beat ball pressure did. It was a layup line or turnover show whether Bronny was playing or not.
JJ is in a bind. There are no right answers with a roster that's fundamentally deficient in paint defense. When Hayes and Koloko are out there, it's like playing 4 on 5, except one of your 4 guys keeps giving the opponent and-1 opportunities. Coupled with the fact that LeBron on short rest is basically the equivalent of playing in flip flops.
That said, that bs zone they're throwing out there needs to die. Nick Nurse ran zone a possession as if to rub it in the Lakers face and show how it's done. The players actually move together in a coordinated way, mirroring the ball. We look like a group of 5 guys who's never played basketball when in the zone. |
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Kblo247! Star Player

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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:17 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | If you trade Rui, it needs to be for a player that
- Can score akin to what he can
- Can hit threes akin to what he can
- Is a better defender than him
Those are the qualities you need in the player you trade Rui for, otherwise it's pointless to do so and you're only hindering the team |
The mf also needs to rebound. They got killed on the glass without AD. Only Bron and Reaves rebounded in traffic without Davis |
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Denny_Russo Star Player

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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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I think he's doing an acceptable job coaching the Lakers, but yeah, it's on him for playing Bronny. He's subjecting him to unnecessary criticism and hate. Bronny should be camped in the g-league for 1-2 more years. _________________ Yi Jianlian Fanboy. Respect The Chair.
Starting anew. I'm retiring my main. |
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Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Kblo247! wrote: | MJST wrote: | If you trade Rui, it needs to be for a player that
- Can score akin to what he can
- Can hit threes akin to what he can
- Is a better defender than him
Those are the qualities you need in the player you trade Rui for, otherwise it's pointless to do so and you're only hindering the team |
The mf also needs to rebound. They got killed on the glass without AD. Only Bron and Reaves rebounded in traffic without Davis |
I think if you get someone that is a better defender while doing the rest, he'll have the mentality to rebound/hustle more by nature of him having the mentality to defend. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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levon Franchise Player

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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We're now 16th in net rating. Yay blowouts! |
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ocho Retired Number


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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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levon wrote: | We're now 16th in net rating. Yay blowouts! |
Smallish sample, but their numbers since the DFS trade are encouraging. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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levon Franchise Player

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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ocho wrote: | levon wrote: | We're now 16th in net rating. Yay blowouts! |
Smallish sample, but their numbers since the DFS trade are encouraging. |
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👀 Since DFS arrived:
AR/Max/Rui/LeBron/AD = -7.4 Net
AR/Max/DFS/LeBron/AD= +34 Net
Then consider DFS didn't play in wins against MIA, BRK, and WAS during that stretch...
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dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player


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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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7-3 in the last ten games. Hovering in the 4-6 seed range. Sometimes the team has a streak of games where they look great and hopes get high, but realistically it is a play-in caliber team, so anything 6th or better is a job well done. |
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levon Franchise Player

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Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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dont_be_a_wuss wrote: | 7-3 in the last ten games. Hovering in the 4-6 seed range. Sometimes the team has a streak of games where they look great and hopes get high, but realistically it is a play-in caliber team, so anything 6th or better is a job well done. |
Play-in caliber isn't really saying much. Everyone below the top 3 is play-in caliber. We're a half game behind the 4th seeded Nuggets. |
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lar9149 Star Player

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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think tonight's game show JJ and his coaching staff know what they are doing. They had a game plan and it worked. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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lar9149 wrote: | I think tonight's game show JJ and his coaching staff know what they are doing. They had a game plan and it worked. |
That. And our ceiling is 100% matchup dependent.
Bron and AD can dominate against most top tier teams out East (BOS, NY, IND).
CLE or MIL are tough matchups though. _________________ When the world grows. Grow with it.
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player


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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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lar9149 wrote: | I think tonight's game show JJ and his coaching staff know what they are doing. They had a game plan and it worked. |
JJ hasn't been a problem - he's been flexible, made adjustments and sat guys who weren't defending. I'm happy with his performance. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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TheBlackMamba Star Player

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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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There's no shortage of bad coaching we've seen in the league, and even just the Lakers going back the last 15 years...so JJ being a rookie coach with no experience before this year, yet having the team playing like this should not be understated. He's gonna be a great one. |
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Theseus Franchise Player

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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Good win. Lakers look prepared and motivated to win on the road against a tough team. They did just that, credit to where credit is due. |
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lar9149 Star Player

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Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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One thing I heard on Lakersnation is how Hayes was switched out early (I think he saw Hayes was a problem being in there with the starters)(less floor spacing) for DFS and Lakers play small ball. I looked like the coaching staff did their homework and knew what to do, they weren't just "winging" it. |
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ribeye Franchise Player


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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:21 am Post subject: |
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I feel sorry for Coach. He has to come in an try to get this team to focus both on offense and defense, his house burns down, but just as it looked like the team was starting to jell....
Now he has to lock Luka in the workout room for about six months, and then teach him that there this other thing besides scoring necessary to winning. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo" |
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