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| MJST wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Bron-AR-Knecht-Rui-AD… enough defense? |
No, and asking Bron or AR to be your primary playmaker is not a good idea either.
The correct strategy would be to shore up the bench scoring, and the starting defense and count on your main scorers to be your main scorers.
As it stands JJ wants Reaves to be the third scoring option, and DLO to play point guard distributor. With our bench's inability to score however that may need to change.
You don't move DLo to the bench because then the starting lineup has no real point guard capable of playing facilitator primarily.
You start DLO
You bench Reaves
You can bring in Knecht to the starting lineup but you'd have to see if he could play the 2 and keep up with other 2s in the league currently.
The ideal would have been Christie but he's been horrible to the point teams are playing off him which allows them to overload their defense on other sides of the court because they don't give a care about Christie's shooting.
And with Vando and Wood out, the other starter isn't there.
So we have to wait till guys are healthy.
Because either AR or Rui needs to be moved to the bench to be the 6th man scorer/bench primary scorer to shore up that, and Vando needs to be starting. Christie could be that role to start at the 2 and play the KCP role but he's not been playing well at all so that means our backcourt must remain as it is till Vando comes back.
When Vando returns run it
Starters:
DLO
Reaves
Vando
LeBron
AD
Bench:
Vincent
Knecht / Christie
Rui
Wood
Hayes
That is the 10 man rotation we should be running when guys are back. |
I agree with most of this, except the Christie part. I know a lot of people have given up on him, despite it still being early in the season. But, if possible, I would like to see him play with the starting unit, beside DLo, Rui, Bron, and AD. He would be surrounded by offensive players, and playmakers (DLo, Bron), that his role would be more simplified, than with other lineups.
Christie isn't the only player who's had a bad shooting start to the new season. With an increase in role/expectation, this was likely to happen. Max is just going to have to play his way out of it. Same with DLo. JJ is going to have to help with that by continuing to press team offense, figuring out rotation/fit, and instilling confidence in our guys.
Tossing babies and bath water out, just 5 games into the season, is a bit premature, imo.
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| sonic the laker wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | governator wrote: | | Bron-AR-Knecht-Rui-AD… enough defense? |
No, and asking Bron or AR to be your primary playmaker is not a good idea either.
The correct strategy would be to shore up the bench scoring, and the starting defense and count on your main scorers to be your main scorers.
As it stands JJ wants Reaves to be the third scoring option, and DLO to play point guard distributor. With our bench's inability to score however that may need to change.
You don't move DLo to the bench because then the starting lineup has no real point guard capable of playing facilitator primarily.
You start DLO
You bench Reaves
You can bring in Knecht to the starting lineup but you'd have to see if he could play the 2 and keep up with other 2s in the league currently.
The ideal would have been Christie but he's been horrible to the point teams are playing off him which allows them to overload their defense on other sides of the court because they don't give a care about Christie's shooting.
And with Vando and Wood out, the other starter isn't there.
So we have to wait till guys are healthy.
Because either AR or Rui needs to be moved to the bench to be the 6th man scorer/bench primary scorer to shore up that, and Vando needs to be starting. Christie could be that role to start at the 2 and play the KCP role but he's not been playing well at all so that means our backcourt must remain as it is till Vando comes back.
When Vando returns run it
Starters:
DLO
Reaves
Vando
LeBron
AD
Bench:
Vincent
Knecht / Christie
Rui
Wood
Hayes
That is the 10 man rotation we should be running when guys are back. |
I agree with most of this, except the Christie part. I know a lot of people have given up on him, despite it still being early in the season. But, if possible, I would like to see him play with the starting unit, beside DLo, Rui, Bron, and AD. He would be surrounded by offensive players, and playmakers (DLo, Bron), that his role would be more simplified, than with other lineups.
Christie isn't the only player who's had a bad shooting start to the new season. With an increase in role/expectation, this was likely to happen. Max is just going to have to play his way out of it. Same with DLo. JJ is going to have to help with that by continuing to press team offense, figuring out rotation/fit, and instilling confidence in our guys.
Tossing babies and bath water out, just 5 games into the season, is a bit premature, imo. |
It's harder on Christie because despite the team as a whole being off from three for the most part, the majority of the players relied on for it can score in other ways and contribute to the team in other ways.
Christie's only purpose is to play defense and make the wide open threes he gets. If he cannot do one of those things then he doesn't separate himself from players like Vando. And if his defense isn't making up for the fact that defenses play us like 4 on 5 when he's out there, then he's not making an argument for himself to play more minutes than Knecht.
if Christie could manage the numbers Knecht is putting up, he'd have a spot in the rotation assured. It's the fact he hasn't when he has arguably the easiest job on the team and the one thing he works on, it's not helpful.
Fans are going to get Anthony Brown flashbacks if he keeps up.
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| MJST wrote: | It's harder on Christie because despite the team as a whole being off from three for the most part, the majority of the players relied on for it can score in other ways and contribute to the team in other ways.
Christie's only purpose is to play defense and make the wide open threes he gets. If he cannot do one of those things then he doesn't separate himself from players like Vando. And if his defense isn't making up for the fact that defenses play us like 4 on 5 when he's out there, then he's not making an argument for himself to play more minutes than Knecht.
if Christie could manage the numbers Knecht is putting up, he'd have a spot in the rotation assured. It's the fact he hasn't when he has arguably the easiest job on the team and the one thing he works on, it's not helpful.
Fans are going to get Anthony Brown flashbacks if he keeps up. |
Those are fair assessments.
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Really wanna know why he was benched after only 9 minutes. He was 2/2 and never saw another minute of paying time.
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| This dude not getting 20+ minutes is a disgrace. |
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Jj got lost in the sauce not playing him more tonight
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | Really wanna know why he was benched after only 9 minutes. He was 2/2 and never saw another minute of paying time. |
because gabe was bringing his intangibles hard tonight |
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Edey balled out tonight. That would piss me off if I was dalton.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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We need more 3 point shooters/scorers.
Knecht should get about 15 minutes minimum P.T. per game.  |
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| Homie has been a huge disappointment. |
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Gutless performance from Knecht tonight.
They gave him plenty of minutes and he was shook after that airball.
JJ needs to force feed him the ball until he gets his confidence.
In a runaway game it's pointless to let Bron stat pad.
I get why he took all the shots because the rest of the team is pathetic, but the young players won't learn if he takes all the shots. |
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Personally I think they need to draw something up other than 3’s. I’ve been saying it for months he’s a scorer not a damn sharpshooter. He needs to se the ball go in to get going.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | Personally I think they need to draw something up other than 3’s. I’ve been saying it for months he’s a scorer not a damn sharpshooter. He needs to se the ball go in to get going. |
Agree, he's not JJ. He's a high volume scorer that needs to get going. Get him to the foul line early or draw up free throw elbow play for him. The game he had 35 I think he hit his first two threes. That will get him going. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Dalton will have to work on his iso handle...he will get it together...as long as he can do more than just score he can stay on the court...until that part catches up to where he knows it could be. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Only 10 games in, but so far, not ROTY pace. He's need to be more efficient. 39% overall, and 29% from downtown won't cut it. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Here's an idea JJ.
Why not give him four shots in five minutes instead of four shots in twenty?
You can then not give him the ball for fifteen minutes but it's better for him to get his shots in a cluster rather than spread them out during his entire shift.
Every time he finally hits one, they don't feed him the ball for at least five more minutes.
I would expect that JJ more than most would understand the need to let a young player find his rhythm. |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | Only 10 games in, but so far, not ROTY pace. He's need to be more efficient. 39% overall, and 29% from downtown won't cut it. |
Def not consistent but there’s flashes of brilliance out there, no deer in headlight moments, he’ll be fine
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| BILBJH wrote: | Here's an idea JJ.
Why not give him four shots in five minutes instead of four shots in twenty?
You can then not give him the ball for fifteen minutes but it's better for him to get his shots in a cluster rather than spread them out during his entire shift.
Every time he finally hits one, they don't feed him the ball for at least five more minutes.
I would expect that JJ more than most would understand the need to let a young player find his rhythm. |
Maybe because JJ does not have to patience to endure 5 minutes of bricks and airballs. |
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| Dalton should be jumping Gabe now off the bench. God Gabe is garbage. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Dalton is our 4th best player. Not close
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Start him next game?
I am
Telling ya, this kid is gonna be special.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Impressive! Played whole crunch time minutes as well! Glad he's getting that experience early in the season. |
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| He lit it up tonight and we rewarded him by icing him out for the remainder of the game. Hopefully he doesn't let that get him down. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Huge game by Dalton. 7-8 FG, 5-5 from 3. Insane.
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| Jamesikan wrote: | | He lit it up tonight and we rewarded him by icing him out for the remainder of the game. Hopefully he doesn't let that get him down. |
Not really an ice out when the other team is making damn sure he doesn’t get a clean look. He did his job creating space for everyone else to work. |
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