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mhan00 Retired Number


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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:07 pm Post subject: |
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Pulling for DK4. But it has been ROUGH watching him for a while now. |
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miggz23 Star Player

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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He just have to play through it... Hope those shots are falling again soon. I think this team will take another step. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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bbq chicken on defense.
Yives Missi might be the steal of the draft we thought Knecht was. (and of course McCain) _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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alleyoop Star Player

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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If putting him in a Kessler deal means sending out less draft capital, do you do it? _________________ #18 next... |
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Brawn13 Star Player

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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alleyoop wrote: | If putting him in a Kessler deal means sending out less draft capital, do you do it? |
In a heart beat. We need Kesslers skillset more than we need Knechts right now. They’re both the same age, so we’d have Kesslers production just as long as we’d we would have Knechts |
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miggz23 Star Player

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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alleyoop wrote: | If putting him in a Kessler deal means sending out less draft capital, do you do it? |
I'll do it for straight trade, or maybe unprotect 2027 and SRP. |
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MJST Retired Number


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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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Don't jump back on the bandwagon once Dalton's rookie wall proves to just be a rookie wall.
Not gonna forget all the trades people were throwing Reaves into his rookie season and treating his final game that season as meaningless in terms of showing any of what he could potentially become  _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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miggz23 Star Player

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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Don't jump back on the bandwagon once Dalton's rookie wall proves to just be a rookie wall.
Not gonna forget all the trades people were throwing Reaves into his rookie season and treating his final game that season as meaningless in terms of showing any of what he could potentially become  |
Knecht is turning 24 in two months... I mean it's not like were throwing him away for nobody... We're talking about another young prospect here and for a much more player in need position, who can help now.
This is no disrespect to Knecht... But I doubt even Ainge goes for it. |
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MJST Retired Number


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Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2025 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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miggz23 wrote: | MJST wrote: | Don't jump back on the bandwagon once Dalton's rookie wall proves to just be a rookie wall.
Not gonna forget all the trades people were throwing Reaves into his rookie season and treating his final game that season as meaningless in terms of showing any of what he could potentially become  |
Knecht is turning 24 in two months... I mean it's not like were throwing him away for nobody... We're talking about another young prospect here and for a much more player in need position. |
Dalton IS a young prospect. Again, Reaves was 23 when the Lakers drafted him.
Dalton was also one of the best players in College basketball, top 2 and you want to get rid of him just 20 or so games into his career?
Nick Richards will give you akin to what you want from Kessler for far less a price. And the Lakers two centers Koloko and Hayes are both in the 80s of defensive percentile this season. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
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miggz23 Star Player

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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 2:59 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | miggz23 wrote: | MJST wrote: | Don't jump back on the bandwagon once Dalton's rookie wall proves to just be a rookie wall.
Not gonna forget all the trades people were throwing Reaves into his rookie season and treating his final game that season as meaningless in terms of showing any of what he could potentially become  |
Knecht is turning 24 in two months... I mean it's not like were throwing him away for nobody... We're talking about another young prospect here and for a much more player in need position. |
Dalton IS a young prospect. Again, Reaves was 23 when the Lakers drafted him.
Dalton was also one of the best players in College basketball, top 2 and you want to get rid of him just 20 or so games into his career?
Nick Richards will give you akin to what you want from Kessler for far less a price. And the Lakers two centers Koloko and Hayes are both in the 80s of defensive percentile this season. |
Kessler is also a young prospect. It’s not that I don’t like Knecht. I just prefer Kessler right now on this team. We’re still waiting for Knecht to take that next step but Kessler makes us better right away.
I get it with Richards, but thats not the question OP asked… I just said I would do a straight swap, if presented. Which is unlikely. I don’t mind keeping Knecht also. |
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Threatt_Level Starting Rotation

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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 5:32 am Post subject: |
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miggz23 wrote: |
Kessler is also a young prospect. It’s not that I don’t like Knecht. I just prefer Kessler right now on this team. We’re still waiting for Knecht to take that next step but Kessler makes us better right away.
I get it with Richards, but thats not the question OP asked… I just said I would do a straight swap, if presented. Which is unlikely. I don’t mind keeping Knecht also. |
This team isn't a real contender, so why even bother with such a short-sighted move? Knecht's upside is far greater than Kessler. If he's not being packaged to get us someone like De'Aaron Fox, better to just let Knecht develop when he could land us a bigger fish. Kessler is just going to be another Zubac, which is fine (and definitely needed), but I'd rather keep Knecht than trade him for a player who is "fine" when we're not realistically getting past OKC. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:08 am Post subject: |
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I backed Christie when he was down. I'll back Connect now that some of you are turning on him. He is a talented player. He will be very good within 2 or 3 years. I put that on your momma!
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TMG Star Player

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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 6:30 am Post subject: |
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I would trade Dalton for Avidija. Dude is a stud playing on a bad team.
But im rooting for Dalton hoping he could turn it around. I think he will. But i'd rather his defense gets vastly better. Because as long as it's this bad he'll never be more than a bench player. |
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:23 am Post subject: |
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I still like Knecht potential, still a shooter but I was wrong about his defense, he can’t stay in front of his man that well at all. Makes it hard to play him next to AR _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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mhan00 Retired Number


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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nice to see DK4 find his three ball again tonight. Here’s hoping January looks better than December. |
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Zillethai Star Player

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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | Don't jump back on the bandwagon once Dalton's rookie wall proves to just be a rookie wall. |
You're not the boss of me. |
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miggz23 Star Player

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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Zillethai wrote: | MJST wrote: | Don't jump back on the bandwagon once Dalton's rookie wall proves to just be a rookie wall. |
You're not the boss of me. |
Good to see DK4 hit his shots tonight... |
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miggz23 Star Player

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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Awful game for him… in 17mins all he manage to contribute is 1 rebound. That’s how you play yourself out of the rotation.
Simply can’t have that if he wants to be a contributor on a team trying to win.. |
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TMG Star Player

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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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I believe in Dalton. He's a bucket and next season with a full off season under him he'll be an absolute bucket from the bench. |
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Kblo247! Star Player

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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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TMG wrote: | I believe in Dalton. He's a bucket and next season with a full off season under him he'll be an absolute bucket from the bench. |
He was plenty of buckets tonight for the rockets on all those rotations they had him lost on. The killing point was when Rui did the cut in the fourth and then Dalton cut in front Rui with his man and caused a broken turnover. He was just bad basketball. And he needs to benched for 2 games or so like Max and Cam were |
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TMG Star Player

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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Kblo247! wrote: | TMG wrote: | I believe in Dalton. He's a bucket and next season with a full off season under him he'll be an absolute bucket from the bench. |
He was plenty of buckets tonight for the rockets on all those rotations they had him lost on. The killing point was when Rui did the cut in the fourth and then Dalton cut in front Rui with his man and caused a broken turnover. He was just bad basketball. And he needs to benched for 2 games or so like Max and Cam were |
He'll probably be DNP once everyones healthy. This season should honestly have been one of those seasons for him. Spot minutes and garbage time minutes. |
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Zillethai Star Player

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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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I mean he went to college right? Why is he this bad on rotations?
He looks lost at times. Biting on pump fakes, way the hell out of position, and trying to leap at his man trying to make up for it.
If he's not making 3s, then we might as well bring back Bronny |
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TooMuchMajicBuss Franchise Player


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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Awful defense, but it strikes me as inexperience not capability. This is a good test for how well JJ's staff can develop a player, particularly on defense. DK4 could be a great player in this league and torch opponents on offense if he can gain confidence by playing a bunch, but that's only going to happen if he learns some defensive fundamentals this spring and all summer. |
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levon Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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You expect this from a rook. In the first round you hope for athletic pop and high ceiling, and we've gotten flashes of both. I'm happy with Dalton as a potential future piece.
Where I feel a little cheated is picking him as a super old rookie, the expectation being he can contribute now. He can't contribute now. He stinks now. He's like 37 year old Melo, but worse.
Oh and he needs to quit stealing uncontested rebounds from his teammates. I get he needs to make box score contributions, but it only slows our offense down more because we spend two seconds fumbling it and can't get out into semi-transition. It's not like once he grabs it he's going coast to coast or making a read. I'd much rather have him sprint to his spot to receive the kickahead pass. |
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MJST Retired Number


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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:13 am Post subject: |
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Dalton could be on a team right now in the bottom 10 in the league and putting up 18 a game. But he's not, he's on the Lakers where his development will be different and he will discover what he can get away with at NBA speed slower than if he was on a team that was giving him every shot...but he's on our team. Which is where we want him. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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