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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:12 am    Post subject:

Video and Insight on Knecht, so that we can get back to talking about him


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:03 pm    Post subject:

Knecht, after averaging 21ppg in the SL, didn't recieve any all summer league team honors. It reflects the sentiment of the folks voting for the all summer league teams.

They believe at 23 he should be doing what he's doing against younger pros.They have the same mindset as the folks who passed him over from about 5-16 in last month's draft.

We're the beneficiary of those sentiments.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:05 pm    Post subject:

Hey if they think 22-23 is "too old" when they will wait for people to get to their primes at "27" then good for us to get Knecht.
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I think he’s gonna be a 15ppg scorer as a rookie. Pretty much the perfect player to add to Lebron/AD because he doesn’t need the ball to be a factor.

I don’t view LeBron, AD, Austin or Dlo as aggressive scorers, but dalton is. The best part about it is that he can give you 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option.

Should give him the opportunity to use more energy defensively and be decent on that end.

I love this pick! I can see dalton being a laker star for years to come at SF.

I want to see

Dlo/ Gabe/ JHS
Austin/Max/bronny/hinson
Dalton/Vando/cam/max Lewis
Lebron/Rui/Traore
AD/Wood/hayes/castleton

I think this team is deep AF and very talented. The only thing we’re missing is a big bruiser bigman which we can get after the deadline. I really don’t think it’s as big a deal as everyone says because the player will be situational and matchup dependent. Probably cut Hayes and bring someone in on th r waver wire.
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Anyway, JJ's new system is predicated on passing, off ball movement, three point shooting, and coming off screens for threes. He wants to run something similar to what the Warriors run, and is giving every indication of it, he also wants high volume three point shooting to be more prevalent.

DLO is also really good at setting screens. Something that's underlooked but important for these kinds of read & react systems. Think about how many layups DLO would get because of ghost screens he would set. But he'll set a real screen if it calls for that.

The Warriors system worked because they had elite all time great shooters in Klay and Steph. Then added another great shooter/scorer in Durant. Point forward like Dray.

I'd much prefer if we ran more sets where the ball went into the post to AD or Lebron. One of our biggest weaknesses is that when it's crunch time we can't get the ball to our best players, their strong spots. If any offense I would wish we ran, I'd prefer what Pop was running with the older version of the Duncan, prime Kawhi teams in 2014. Manu, Parker. I feel we have a similar level of talent. We're not a great 3 point shooting team, but a competent good enough one. It should not be our go to weapon. The Warriors again, had prime Curry/Klay. Then added prime Durant.

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I think he’s gonna be a 15ppg scorer as a rookie. Pretty much the perfect player to add to Lebron/AD because he doesn’t need the ball to be a factor.

I don’t view LeBron, AD, Austin or Dlo as aggressive scorers, but dalton is. The best part about it is that he can give you 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option.



Definitely intrigued by this guy. Think you almost have to look at him as a 12-15ppg free agent signing since he should be ready to contribute. He'll have his ups and downs but overall I think he raises this team's floor and ceiling. Expecting him to have a handful of monster games where he can't miss and you just know JJ will uiltilize him as best he can. Lakers really lucked out having a highly ranked player fall to them. Changes their outlook when building the team going forward.
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I think he’s gonna be a 15ppg scorer as a rookie. Pretty much the perfect player to add to Lebron/AD because he doesn’t need the ball to be a factor.

I don’t view LeBron, AD, Austin or Dlo as aggressive scorers, but dalton is. The best part about it is that he can give you 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option.

Should give him the opportunity to use more energy defensively and be decent on that end.

I love this pick! I can see dalton being a laker star for years to come at SF.

I want to see

Dlo/ Gabe/ JHS
Austin/Max/bronny/hinson
Dalton/Vando/cam/max Lewis
Lebron/Rui/Traore
AD/Wood/hayes/castleton

I think this team is deep AF and very talented. The only thing we’re missing is a big bruiser bigman which we can get after the deadline. I really don’t think it’s as big a deal as everyone says because the player will be situational and matchup dependent. Probably cut Hayes and bring someone in on th r waver wire.


You really don't regard the NBA's all-time leading scorer as an "aggressive" scorer??
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:42 pm    Post subject:

Summer League rookie Points Per Game leaders 👀

🔹Dalton Knecht — 21.3 PPG
🔹Reed Sheppard — 20.0 PPG
🔹Ron Holland — 18.8 PPG
🔹Kel’el Ware — 18.0 PPG
🔹Tristan Da Silva — 17.7 PPG
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:52 pm    Post subject:

32 wrote:
Summer League rookie Points Per Game leaders 👀

🔹Dalton Knecht — 21.3 PPG
🔹Reed Sheppard — 20.0 PPG
🔹Ron Holland — 18.8 PPG
🔹Kel’el Ware — 18.0 PPG
🔹Tristan Da Silva — 17.7 PPG



yet Knecht stays under the radar. They were talking about Reed Sheppard all yesterday on ESPN, no mention of Knecht.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 3:45 pm    Post subject:

Sheppard had some crazy summer league stats given his 3 ball wasn't even falling though. I know he's a small guard but I would have chosen him #1
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I didn't catch much of Sarr in Summer League. But word around is that he could be another Skal Labissière. Anyone agree with that?
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I think he’s gonna be a 15ppg scorer as a rookie. Pretty much the perfect player to add to Lebron/AD because he doesn’t need the ball to be a factor.

I don’t view LeBron, AD, Austin or Dlo as aggressive scorers, but dalton is. The best part about it is that he can give you 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option.

Should give him the opportunity to use more energy defensively and be decent on that end.

I love this pick! I can see dalton being a laker star for years to come at SF.

I want to see

Dlo/ Gabe/ JHS
Austin/Max/bronny/hinson
Dalton/Vando/cam/max Lewis
Lebron/Rui/Traore
AD/Wood/hayes/castleton

I think this team is deep AF and very talented. The only thing we’re missing is a big bruiser bigman which we can get after the deadline. I really don’t think it’s as big a deal as everyone says because the player will be situational and matchup dependent. Probably cut Hayes and bring someone in on th r waver wire.


It would be cool if Knecht earned a starting spot by ballin out! It would suck if JJ pulled a HAMstring to bench the best players and started Knecht before he earned it, like fans are doing. The Ham roster fiasco caused two straight months of the replacement starters getting blown out to start just about every game to be down double digits in the 1st quarter. Starting CamRed/TPrince/Vando tank masters ultimately sunk the Lakers into a losing streak that resulted in being a play-in team. Even tho the legitimate starters won the IST before and 70% of the games after, it wasn’t enough to recover out of the play-in.

When Knecht suits up for a legitimate NBA roster, and consistently produces in real regular season games he should be considered for a starting position. I know opinions differ, that’s cool, I could be wrong thinking not to consider Knecht as a starter for now…either stance could work or fail, we’re all speculating…but imo it’s premature and unrealistically illogical to do otherwise.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 6:30 pm    Post subject:

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I didn't catch much of Sarr in Summer League. But word around is that he could be another Skal Labissière. Anyone agree with that?
All I know is that his summer league stats were putrid. Not really sure what that means and even the detractors said his defense was pretty good
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I think he’s gonna be a 15ppg scorer as a rookie. Pretty much the perfect player to add to Lebron/AD because he doesn’t need the ball to be a factor.

I don’t view LeBron, AD, Austin or Dlo as aggressive scorers, but dalton is. The best part about it is that he can give you 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option.

Should give him the opportunity to use more energy defensively and be decent on that end.

I love this pick! I can see dalton being a laker star for years to come at SF.

I want to see

Dlo/ Gabe/ JHS
Austin/Max/bronny/hinson
Dalton/Vando/cam/max Lewis
Lebron/Rui/Traore
AD/Wood/hayes/castleton

I think this team is deep AF and very talented. The only thing we’re missing is a big bruiser bigman which we can get after the deadline. I really don’t think it’s as big a deal as everyone says because the player will be situational and matchup dependent. Probably cut Hayes and bring someone in on th r waver wire.


You really don't regard the NBA's all-time leading scorer as an "aggressive" scorer??


He’s not. Doesn’t force a lot of shots. He just takes what the defense gives him and if it isn’t a look for him he passes to the person that is open. Dalton only sees the basket lol 😂. I love that about him. He’s out there to get buckets and he’s good at it.
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PICKnPOP wrote:
I think he’s gonna be a 15ppg scorer as a rookie. Pretty much the perfect player to add to Lebron/AD because he doesn’t need the ball to be a factor.

I don’t view LeBron, AD, Austin or Dlo as aggressive scorers, but dalton is. The best part about it is that he can give you 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option.

Should give him the opportunity to use more energy defensively and be decent on that end.

I love this pick! I can see dalton being a laker star for years to come at SF.

I want to see

Dlo/ Gabe/ JHS
Austin/Max/bronny/hinson
Dalton/Vando/cam/max Lewis
Lebron/Rui/Traore
AD/Wood/hayes/castleton

I think this team is deep AF and very talented. The only thing we’re missing is a big bruiser bigman which we can get after the deadline. I really don’t think it’s as big a deal as everyone says because the player will be situational and matchup dependent. Probably cut Hayes and bring someone in on th r waver wire.


It would be cool if Knecht earned a starting spot by ballin out! It would suck if JJ pulled a HAMstring to bench the best players and started Knecht before he earned it, like fans are doing. The Ham roster fiasco caused two straight months of the replacement starters getting blown out to start just about every game to be down double digits in the 1st quarter. Starting CamRed/TPrince/Vando tank masters ultimately sunk the Lakers into a losing streak that resulted in being a play-in team. Even tho the legitimate starters won the IST before and 70% of the games after, it wasn’t enough to recover out of the play-in.

When Knecht suits up for a legitimate NBA roster, and consistently produces in real regular season games he should be considered for a starting position. I know opinions differ, that’s cool, I could be wrong thinking not to consider Knecht as a starter for now…either stance could work or fail, we’re all speculating…but imo it’s premature and unrealistically illogical to do otherwise.


Well I don’t want them to give him the spot. I just think he’s the most balanced SF on the roster already between himself, rui, and Vando. If he can do what pelinka thinks he can do and be a 3&D type of player he’s already the best fit out of the 3. Vando can’t shoot, and Rui can’t defend.

All it will really take is for dalton to come out and give effort on that end and knock down some 3’s tbh.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 7:08 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
Sheppard had some crazy summer league stats given his 3 ball wasn't even falling though. I know he's a small guard but I would have chosen him #1



Yep, the kid pretty good.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:32 pm    Post subject:

PICKnPOP wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
PICKnPOP wrote:
I think he’s gonna be a 15ppg scorer as a rookie. Pretty much the perfect player to add to Lebron/AD because he doesn’t need the ball to be a factor.

I don’t view LeBron, AD, Austin or Dlo as aggressive scorers, but dalton is. The best part about it is that he can give you 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option.

Should give him the opportunity to use more energy defensively and be decent on that end.

I love this pick! I can see dalton being a laker star for years to come at SF.

I want to see

Dlo/ Gabe/ JHS
Austin/Max/bronny/hinson
Dalton/Vando/cam/max Lewis
Lebron/Rui/Traore
AD/Wood/hayes/castleton

I think this team is deep AF and very talented. The only thing we’re missing is a big bruiser bigman which we can get after the deadline. I really don’t think it’s as big a deal as everyone says because the player will be situational and matchup dependent. Probably cut Hayes and bring someone in on th r waver wire.


It would be cool if Knecht earned a starting spot by ballin out! It would suck if JJ pulled a HAMstring to bench the best players and started Knecht before he earned it, like fans are doing. The Ham roster fiasco caused two straight months of the replacement starters getting blown out to start just about every game to be down double digits in the 1st quarter. Starting CamRed/TPrince/Vando tank masters ultimately sunk the Lakers into a losing streak that resulted in being a play-in team. Even tho the legitimate starters won the IST before and 70% of the games after, it wasn’t enough to recover out of the play-in.

When Knecht suits up for a legitimate NBA roster, and consistently produces in real regular season games he should be considered for a starting position. I know opinions differ, that’s cool, I could be wrong thinking not to consider Knecht as a starter for now…either stance could work or fail, we’re all speculating…but imo it’s premature and unrealistically illogical to do otherwise.


Well I don’t want them to give him the spot. I just think he’s the most balanced SF on the roster already between himself, rui, and Vando. If he can do what pelinka thinks he can do and be a 3&D type of player he’s already the best fit out of the 3. Vando can’t shoot, and Rui can’t defend.

All it will really take is for dalton to come out and give effort on that end and knock down some 3’s tbh.


I hope he becomes an average NBA defender in addition to his offensive versatility. Until then, that depth chart should have Vando there to help AD for now. Just too many defensive weaknesses with DLO, AR and LBJ. Christie would be a nice running mate with Knect with the 2nd unit, maybe they pull LBJ early to match minutes with those two. I agree that Dalton could become that guy, but as of today that lineup needs Vando.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:26 pm    Post subject:

PICKnPOP wrote:
Hanging from Rafters wrote:
PICKnPOP wrote:
I think he’s gonna be a 15ppg scorer as a rookie. Pretty much the perfect player to add to Lebron/AD because he doesn’t need the ball to be a factor.

I don’t view LeBron, AD, Austin or Dlo as aggressive scorers, but dalton is. The best part about it is that he can give you 15 ppg as a 4th or 5th option.

Should give him the opportunity to use more energy defensively and be decent on that end.

I love this pick! I can see dalton being a laker star for years to come at SF.

I want to see

Dlo/ Gabe/ JHS
Austin/Max/bronny/hinson
Dalton/Vando/cam/max Lewis
Lebron/Rui/Traore
AD/Wood/hayes/castleton

I think this team is deep AF and very talented. The only thing we’re missing is a big bruiser bigman which we can get after the deadline. I really don’t think it’s as big a deal as everyone says because the player will be situational and matchup dependent. Probably cut Hayes and bring someone in on th r waver wire.


It would be cool if Knecht earned a starting spot by ballin out! It would suck if JJ pulled a HAMstring to bench the best players and started Knecht before he earned it, like fans are doing. The Ham roster fiasco caused two straight months of the replacement starters getting blown out to start just about every game to be down double digits in the 1st quarter. Starting CamRed/TPrince/Vando tank masters ultimately sunk the Lakers into a losing streak that resulted in being a play-in team. Even tho the legitimate starters won the IST before and 70% of the games after, it wasn’t enough to recover out of the play-in.

When Knecht suits up for a legitimate NBA roster, and consistently produces in real regular season games he should be considered for a starting position. I know opinions differ, that’s cool, I could be wrong thinking not to consider Knecht as a starter for now…either stance could work or fail, we’re all speculating…but imo it’s premature and unrealistically illogical to do otherwise.


Well I don’t want them to give him the spot. I just think he’s the most balanced SF on the roster already between himself, rui, and Vando. If he can do what pelinka thinks he can do and be a 3&D type of player he’s already the best fit out of the 3. Vando can’t shoot, and Rui can’t defend.

All it will really take is for dalton to come out and give effort on that end and knock down some 3’s tbh.

Rui's undoubtedly gonna be a better defender than rookie Knecht, and that's not really praise for Rui's defense. Including on the boards. Which, again, is not really praise about for Rui's rebounding.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 10:38 pm    Post subject:

Rui's undoubtedly gonna be a better defender than rookie Knecht, and that's not really praise for Rui's defense. Including on the boards. Which, again, is not really praise about for Rui's rebounding.[/quote]

I’m not so sure about him being better defensively. Dalton is also a decent rebounder. Us seeing dalton defend NBA 3’s may change our whole perspective on him as a defender. He’s pretty athletic and that will help a lot. He’s also strong. He will struggle defending 2’s for sure but if you view him as a 3 I like his chances.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:34 pm    Post subject:

tox wrote:
Sheppard had some crazy summer league stats given his 3 ball wasn't even falling though. I know he's a small guard but I would have chosen him #1


The way he navigates those picks to either create a midrange for himself, drive all the way, or kick it out is already elite. The plethora of midrange shots he created during SPL, and at his size... He's going to be a white CP3. LOL! I think that can be his ceiling. This feels so much like a classic Rockets pick. Do you guys remember Brent Price, Matt Maloney and Bryce Drew? The Rockets had a fever for white point guards in the mid-late 90's. LOL! So if he turns out mediocre, he'll just join this group in their history.
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Sheppard had some crazy summer league stats given his 3 ball wasn't even falling though. I know he's a small guard but I would have chosen him #1


The way he navigates those picks to either create a midrange for himself, drive all the way, or kick it out is already elite. The plethora of midrange shots he created during SPL, and at his size... He's going to be a white CP3. LOL! I think that can be his ceiling. This feels so much like a classic Rockets pick. Do you guys remember Brent Price, Matt Maloney and Bryce Drew? The Rockets had a fever for white point guards in the mid-late 90's. LOL! So if he turns out mediocre, he'll just join this group in their history.


Kinda remind me of AR too
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so 20-5-5 rookie season?
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so 20-5-5 rookie season?


In the G League?
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Sheppard had some crazy summer league stats given his 3 ball wasn't even falling though. I know he's a small guard but I would have chosen him #1



Yep, the kid pretty good.


Him or Castle probably should have went number one. Clingan if you want the safest bet.
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so 20-5-5 rookie season?


without question if they start him.
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