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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:32 pm    Post subject:

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Why doesn’t he get more shots / minutes?

He is a great shooter, are teams keying on him or are we not creating plays for him?


Because he isn’t that good yet. Lakers tried getting him shots when he was hot off of screens and off of movement, but he was bricking the shots he did get and worse was making the wrong read when the shots weren’t there and either forcing it or putting the team in a tough spot.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:26 pm    Post subject:

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always play bettet without rui, I wonder why? lol


You hating too hard man… Rui played last game when Knecht scored well too.

Rui has no connection with how well Knecht plays.


That's why I am asking 🤣🤣 Because rememeber when DK was on fire and Lakers on 6 game winning streak? What happened when rui return? 🤣🤣

Yeah right, no connection.


Yup no connection at all...

Dalton most likely gets squeezed out once Rui and Gabe returns.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:10 pm    Post subject:

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Untradeable. Needs mire minutes and touches!




Crucial threes against the Warriors. He stemmed the tide for us. He has already shown crazy potential. You don't just hit 9 threes in a NBA game if you have that real shooting touch. It would have to be for an equally young prospect. I'm not trading him for that "vet who can help now" crap.


You know the idiots that run this team will trade him.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:31 pm    Post subject:

If Rui is traded for a defensive big, it could be that Dalton becomes the primary scorer off the bench. He's not qualified for that role yet, but it's far enough down the list, if Rui goes the job is open.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2025 9:42 pm    Post subject:

With his defense. When he's in, it is either feast or famine.

I know he was an older draft pick. But he obviously still has untapped upside. I think he will become a 40% 3pt shooter with passable defense. Somewhere between Duncan Robinson and Tyler Herro in terms of offensive skillset.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:09 am    Post subject:

I think the LA lifestyle has messed him up.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 8:54 am    Post subject:

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If Rui is traded for a defensive big, it could be that Dalton becomes the primary scorer off the bench. He's not qualified for that role yet, but it's far enough down the list, if Rui goes the job is open.



Rui getting traded for a defensive big is a mistake
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:54 am    Post subject:

With his age, I expected more consistent stable play.

Looks like 2 upside stars were drafted right before him in McCain and Ware.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 10:24 am    Post subject:

silkwilkes wrote:
I think the LA lifestyle has messed him up.


1) he's a rookie
2) He just came off a 4 game stretch where he put up 10 points onon 58% from the field and 56% from three and seems to be getting the hang of the NBA pace

Dalton's doing just fine. The usual ebbs and flows of a rookie season.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:09 pm    Post subject:

Dalton has been selected to the Rookie team in the Rising Stars Challenge at All Star Weekend.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:20 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
silkwilkes wrote:
I think the LA lifestyle has messed him up.


1) he's a rookie
2) He just came off a 4 game stretch where he put up 10 points onon 58% from the field and 56% from three and seems to be getting the hang of the NBA pace

Dalton's doing just fine. The usual ebbs and flows of a rookie season.

He's turning 24 in two months. By 24, Caruso was a high-impact player, and so was Austin. Both undrafted.

I'd be unconcerned if he was 19. This guy was expected to contribute sooner rather than later and has been wholly unplayable for most of the season.

Even Caruso and Austin are probably just worth 1 good FRP in this market. If Dalton doesn't actually end up being good (like at minimum, a net positive in the next few years), he'll just be another FRP we burned.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:35 pm    Post subject:

Dan Majerle was a 23 year old rookie.

Knecht isn't as good defensively, but I bet he becomes a better offensive player than Thunder Dan.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 12:54 pm    Post subject:

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Dan Majerle was a 23 year old rookie.

Knecht isn't as good defensively, but I bet he becomes a better offensive player than Thunder Dan.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 2:54 pm    Post subject:

levon wrote:
MJST wrote:
silkwilkes wrote:
I think the LA lifestyle has messed him up.


1) he's a rookie
2) He just came off a 4 game stretch where he put up 10 points onon 58% from the field and 56% from three and seems to be getting the hang of the NBA pace

Dalton's doing just fine. The usual ebbs and flows of a rookie season.

He's turning 24 in two months. By 24, Caruso was a


By 24 Alex Caruso was already in his second season the league and averaging 9 points off the bench. Just like Knecht is in his rookie season.

In fact Knecht's numbers are on par with or better than Austin Reaves AND Jordan Clarkson's at the same juncture and he is shooting better from three as well.

So don't with the "but he's an older rookie" stuff. Similar older rookies he's putting up numbers right on par with or better than for their rookie campaigns.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 3:05 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
levon wrote:
MJST wrote:
silkwilkes wrote:
I think the LA lifestyle has messed him up.


1) he's a rookie
2) He just came off a 4 game stretch where he put up 10 points onon 58% from the field and 56% from three and seems to be getting the hang of the NBA pace

Dalton's doing just fine. The usual ebbs and flows of a rookie season.

He's turning 24 in two months. By 24, Caruso was a


By 24 Alex Caruso was already in his second season the league and averaging 9 points off the bench. Just like Knecht is in his rookie season.

In fact Knecht's numbers are on par with or better than Austin Reaves AND Jordan Clarkson's at the same juncture and he is shooting better from three as well.

So don't with the "but he's an older rookie" stuff. Similar older rookies he's putting up numbers right on par with or better than for their rookie campaigns.

Yes, only points matter. You are very smart.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:28 pm    Post subject:

levon wrote:
MJST wrote:
levon wrote:
MJST wrote:
silkwilkes wrote:
I think the LA lifestyle has messed him up.


1) he's a rookie
2) He just came off a 4 game stretch where he put up 10 points onon 58% from the field and 56% from three and seems to be getting the hang of the NBA pace

Dalton's doing just fine. The usual ebbs and flows of a rookie season.

He's turning 24 in two months. By 24, Caruso was a


By 24 Alex Caruso was already in his second season the league and averaging 9 points off the bench. Just like Knecht is in his rookie season.

In fact Knecht's numbers are on par with or better than Austin Reaves AND Jordan Clarkson's at the same juncture and he is shooting better from three as well.

So don't with the "but he's an older rookie" stuff. Similar older rookies he's putting up numbers right on par with or better than for their rookie campaigns.

Yes, only points matter.


no, Caruso is a better defender than Knecht. But you weren't comparing play styles so don't move the goalposts.

From a production standpoint Knecht is on the same trajectory as Austin Reaves and Clarkson, whom are the players you can compare Knecht with in terms of older rookies, and Knecht is shooting better from three than they did.

So the 'older rookie should produce much more' argument doesn't work as Knecht is on point with his comparatives.

Alex Caruso's ceiling is a 10 ppg role player that plays all level defense.

Nobody is expecting Knecht to become that and it's never been his game or ceiling comparative, they expect him to become an athletic high volume three point shooting scorer whom is mediocre to hopefully mid at best on defense and the rest after that being gravy. That's why you compare him more to Clarkson or Reaves than Caruso.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:36 pm    Post subject:

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Dalton has been selected to the Rookie team in the Rising Stars Challenge at All Star Weekend.


I like this.. great experience for him to go up against the other new players
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 4:40 pm    Post subject:

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Dalton has been selected to the Rookie team in the Rising Stars Challenge at All Star Weekend.


I like this.. great experience for him to go up against the other new players


Will be nice to see him out there having some offense run through him. Imagine what happens if the Rookie team gets to the Finals and plays the Western All-Stars.

I am very certain Bronny was asked to be part of the G-League team for the potential of playing against his dad should the team make it that far, but he declined.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:50 pm    Post subject:

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Silver lining for LA in what will be the snapping of a 4-game winning streak is that Dalton Knecht has gotten going, up to 24 points on 8 of 12 FG's (5 of 8 from 3).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Crap loss, but great to see DK4 getting over that rookie wall.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:00 pm    Post subject:

Seriously conceded that they will demand him in a trade For Fox.

Rui
Gabe
Dalton
JHS
2. FRP


Lakers get fox

AD/wood
Bron/vando
DFS/
Max/
Fox/reaves

Should they do it idk, will they if they have the chance? Probably. Fox is clutch.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:04 pm    Post subject:

PICKnPOP wrote:
Seriously conceded that they will demand him in a trade For Fox.

Rui
Gabe
Dalton
JHS
2. FRP


Lakers get fox

AD/wood
Bron/vando
DFS/
Max/
Fox/reaves

Should they do it idk, will they if they have the chance? Probably. Fox is clutch.


Fox would put up the same stats Reaves does as a third option. Pointless trade that loses us more than it gains.

And not worth losing Knecht. Rui, Gabe, and 2FRP over. All it'd do is gut our team. The team has bigger needs than whatever Fox gives for all that's lost.

You think the bench is bad now? Wait if you got rid of everything for Fox.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:19 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
PICKnPOP wrote:
Seriously conceded that they will demand him in a trade For Fox.

Rui
Gabe
Dalton
JHS
2. FRP


Lakers get fox

AD/wood
Bron/vando
DFS/
Max/
Fox/reaves

Should they do it idk, will they if they have the chance? Probably. Fox is clutch.


Fox would put up the same stats Reaves does as a third option. Pointless trade that loses us more than it gains.

And not worth losing Knecht. Rui, Gabe, and 2FRP over. All it'd do is gut our team. The team has bigger needs than whatever Fox gives for all that's lost.

You think the bench is bad now? Wait if you got rid of everything for Fox.


DFS/Vando allows for the loss of Rui plus perhaps Wood comes back at some point. Fox would replace Gabe so no loss there either. What “everything” are you talking about to gut the team? Can’t be just Knecht can it? How would the bench be much different than now? Sure, having Knecht in case there are 2 injuries at the same position could be useful but it would be much much better to replace that with a starter that can produce as a 1st option playing as the 3rd option instead DFS/Vando/Knecht splitting minutes at SF.

Fox may or may not sink to put up the same as AR, it’s a stretch to say that but let’s say it’s come true, it would still be Fox+AR which is much better than just AR. Fox/AR as the 3rd/4th options is much more lethal and productive than AR/Rui as 3rd/4th options. It’s adding elite shot creation, playmaking, and excellent steals for about the same rebounds vs Rui that who is only productive on one side of the ball while scoring.

Fox/AR/Max >>>>> Gabe/AR/Max, so much better that it makes up for Knecht/Rui. Split forward minutes between 3 players (LBJ/DFS/Vando), and split guard minutes between 3 players (Fox/AR/Max). With Rui there’s a log jam at the 3/4 while a deficiency exist at the 1/2. Sure, Gabe is improving but far from adequate, Fox would be a worthy upgrade. It seems to me from your past posts that you have the capacity to see that tho, what’s really on your mind?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:31 pm    Post subject:

happy for him- rookies are allowed to get glazed even after losses.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 7:38 pm    Post subject:

Good to see him play well just sucks it comes in a losing effort.
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