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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 2:00 am    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 4:11 am    Post subject:

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NBA World Reacts To Bronny James' Performance In Lakers-Warriors G League Game
Bronny James had a dominant performance for the South Bay Lakers. Bronny James finished the game with 39 points, seven rebounds, four assists and four steals while shooting 14/21 from the field and 4/8 from the three-point range.

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/nba-world-reacts-to-bronny-james-performance-in-lakers-warriors-g-league-game
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His burst has gotten better from Sierra Canyon he was blowing by NBA athletic wings too.



His burst stood out to me also. Don't think I've seen him reach that gear before. Almost starting to look like Sr. on some of those transition plays.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 7:36 am    Post subject:

Lets trade Luka for some 3 and D and build around Bronny
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:28 am    Post subject:

His footwork is getting better along with his handles… He is also starting to use his body along with deceleration moves in his game. His jump shot look solid.

He looked like a real NBA player in a gleague. That 39 looked pretty effortless.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 9:02 am    Post subject:

manlisten wrote:
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His burst has gotten better from Sierra Canyon he was blowing by NBA athletic wings too.



His burst stood out to me also. Don't think I've seen him reach that gear before. Almost starting to look like Sr. on some of those transition plays.

I saw that burst in summer league. People were arguing he wasn't quick based on his combine measurements. That was the thing that most clearly popped about him on the court.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2025 8:36 pm    Post subject:

Stats vs Warriors (3/25/25)

Bronny - 17 pts (5-12 treys), 6 rbs, 9 assists.


    *Bronny 2 game stats vs Warriors:

    Game 1: 39 pts (14-21 FG, 4-8 treys, 5-6 fts), 7 rbs, 4 asts, 4 stls, 38 min, +19

    Game 2: 17 pts (5-18 Fg, 5-12 treys, 1-1 fts), 6 rbs, 9 ast, 2 stl, .

    TOTALS (2): 56 pts (19-39 FG, 9-20 treys, 6-7 fts), 13 rbs, 13 ast, 6 stl

    ~ 48.7% FG, 45.0% Treys, 85.7% FT, 6.5 Rbs, 6.5 Assists, 3 steals ~
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Evaluating Bronny James' 1st season in the G League
The 55th pick in the 2024 NBA Draft showed his potential over the course of 18 games in the G League this season.

Bronny James averaged 21.9 points, 5.3 rebounds and 5.3 assists over 11 games in the G League regular season.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 12:43 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
Evaluating Bronny James' 1st season in the G League
The 55th pick in the 2024 NBA Draft showed his potential over the course of 18 games in the G League this season.

Bronny James averaged 21.9 points, 5.3 rebounds and 5.3 assists over 11 games in the G League regular season.

https://www.nba.com/news/evaluating-bronny-james-first-season-g-league


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ThreePointBomber wrote:
pio2u wrote:
Evaluating Bronny James' 1st season in the G League
The 55th pick in the 2024 NBA Draft showed his potential over the course of 18 games in the G League this season.

Bronny James averaged 21.9 points, 5.3 rebounds and 5.3 assists over 11 games in the G League regular season.

https://www.nba.com/news/evaluating-bronny-james-first-season-g-league


Exceeded expectations


Didn't deserve it. The 5 guys drafted after him were better.

Jimmy Whatshisface
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 1:06 pm    Post subject:

The narrative will change from his dad pulled some strings to get him drafted, otherwise no one would have picked him, to, his dad made sure nobody drafted him before 55 because he wanted to play with his son.

I've already heard these contradictory statements from SAS. I mean which is it? He's not an NBA prospect, or he was a better than 55th pick prospect that Lebron had to make sure others don't draft him? As time goes by, and Bronny proves everyone wrong, the latter narrative will start to get cemented.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 4:53 pm    Post subject:

Give the kid his credit, I admit I didn't think he deserved to be drafted but now the pick looks fine based on his stats and potential.

Plus, he plays hard which I like...he isn't loafing around on the court even when shots aren't going in and such.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:08 pm    Post subject:

I’d say he’s a steal for a 55th pick. He looks better than Max Christie or Lewis did in their rookie seasons. Heck, he looks better than JHS too in my opinion and he was a # 17 pick. Yeah, JHS put up monster stats in the gleague but he was garbage when he got NBA minutes.

Bronny At least stepped up in one NBA game.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 6:13 pm    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
NBA World Reacts To Bronny James' Performance In Lakers-Warriors G League Game
Bronny James had a dominant performance for the South Bay Lakers. Bronny James finished the game with 39 points, seven rebounds, four assists and four steals while shooting 14/21 from the field and 4/8 from the three-point range.

https://www.si.com/fannation/nba/fastbreak/nba-world-reacts-to-bronny-james-performance-in-lakers-warriors-g-league-game


He killed those fools for all the (bleep) his Pops went though vs GSW
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 8:26 pm    Post subject:

PICKnPOP wrote:
I’d say he’s a steal for a 55th pick. He looks better than Max Christie or Lewis did in their rookie seasons. Heck, he looks better than JHS too in my opinion and he was a # 17 pick. Yeah, JHS put up monster stats in the gleague but he was garbage when he got NBA minutes.

Bronny At least stepped up in one NBA game.


Bronny was always gonna eventually pan out, his dad will never let his kids get embarrassed, the James family are always thriving for success
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PICKnPOP wrote:
I’d say he’s a steal for a 55th pick. He looks better than Max Christie or Lewis did in their rookie seasons. Heck, he looks better than JHS too in my opinion and he was a # 17 pick. Yeah, JHS put up monster stats in the gleague but he was garbage when he got NBA minutes.

Bronny At least stepped up in one NBA game.


Bronny was always gonna eventually pan out, his dad will never let his kids get embarrassed, the James family are always thriving for success


IG you should trademark that phrase: "thriving for success" instead of striving.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 4:06 am    Post subject:

I didn't invest a lot in the pick, yeah we used the 55th pick for Lebron's son, but 55th picks don't become rotation players.

Now though look, he already looks better than JHS did, and if he continues, he probably gets a spot next year on the team, good on Bronny.
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The thing about G league though - the leagues do tend to allow your draft picks to go there and shoot as much as you want and play as you will, in the sense it's basically a bonafide practice for your picks.

You won't get benched for bad shots, defense, passing etc. In the NBA the W-Ls matter so you do get that.

I put almost no weight in G league stats, I've watched quite a bit and realized they are really empty stats sort of like the summer league.

What I hold weight on is when games matter how the player plays. I'll go back to Bynum, way way back. He got so much heat and was not worth a lottery pick. Then he has that exchange with Shaq in a big game that mattered. That really stood out and you knew at that moment that Bynum was worth the risk.

With Bronny I've never seen a moment in a meaningful situation in the NBA where he's really made a difference. Now that doesn't mean he never will. I'm just saying G league stats and throwing up numbers in garbage time in the NBA is not really a way to measure progress.

JHS is playing a lot of those meaningless minutes and just had a 18 point outing for 76ers. Doesn't hold much weight either.

Also lets go back to Reaves. His rook year. Vogel gave him a chance right away. He showed some real signs immediately. You felt it. Now sure Reaves was always way better than your typical rookie. I'm just saying whenever Bronny's been given moments to show something in a game/situation that matters, he's either crap or shows nothing of substantial value.

Max Christie may be a good example but I'll say this, Max showed me right away he at least had some offense and length over players at guard. I don't even get that with Bronny. We're basically developing a guy to be a backup in the NBA, and rarely you see teams do that. With Christie, we at least developed him to a point where he was a starter for us on a 4th seeded Lakers team. I don't see Bronny getting that. Sure, 2nd round picks usually end up out of the league. That doesn't mean you draft someone KNOWING FULL WELL his best case scenario is a borderline NBA player/backup. That's where the Lebron James argument comes in. You did so because of Lebron. Which is totally fine. I don't have a problem with it. It's a small small price to pay to keep Lebron happy and engaged (Look at Lebron's level this year and where our team is in the standings vs last). What I don't have an issue with (that others including Lebron seem to) is calling a spade a spade. Bronny got drafted not on his upside, but because of his father. That's not to say he can't make it in the NBA. Look at Reaves, he wasn't even drafted. With hard work, support etc. anyone at that borderline NBA level can make it. Just, no one would have given that commitment as a draft pick and project to take on if his name were Bronny Rahim instead.

I mean have a look at Max Christie's numbers before drafting in college and compare them to Bronny's. That's the whole area people talk about and I don't know why it offends people. It's not really a lie to say Bronny got drated because he's Lebron's kid. He had a horrendous freshman year and still ended up being drafted. Most players coming off a year like that, won't even declare until a year later or so after a better year. However Bronny always had 1 team in the bag, the one pops played on. Nothing wrong in saying that, you can say that and also believe Bronny can make it in the league ala Max Christie etc.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 6:57 am    Post subject:

Here's what I knew about Bronny pre-draft:
1) Mike [ at ] LG liked him
2) Some other scouts that he was pretty good
3) The Warriors wanted to draft him and Klutch told them to back off

That was enough for me to know he was probably an NBA prospect. Didn't think he would show as much as he has, but I never got the furor given literally 3 dudes were drafted after him

I think Max was a better prospect than Bronny but I also think Max is going to be a high end starter in his prime. I also disagree with the idea you don't develop a backup. I think Bitadzke on the Magic is a good example. If you want to grab high end backups from other teams, you end up overpaying (also see Gabe Vincent). If it's your own guy, you can usually get by with FMV contract.

Drafting Bronny and developing him means you won't be paying the MLE to a Gabe Vincent and that opens up cap elsewhere. There is a big difference between a good backup and a bad one. Vet mins are rarely good back ups so in terms of salary cap management, every small difference matters.

Bronny will be especially important if in '27 offseason, we build a team via FA as it limits how much salary you'll have. Having him earn like $2M as a rotation player is actually really important to fill out a team around, say, Luka and Mitchell
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:18 am    Post subject:

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The thing about G league though - the leagues do tend to allow your draft picks to go there and shoot as much as you want and play as you will, in the sense it's basically a bonafide practice for your picks.

You won't get benched for bad shots, defense, passing etc. In the NBA the W-Ls matter so you do get that.

I put almost no weight in G league stats, I've watched quite a bit and realized they are really empty stats sort of like the summer league.

What I hold weight on is when games matter how the player plays. I'll go back to Bynum, way way back. He got so much heat and was not worth a lottery pick. Then he has that exchange with Shaq in a big game that mattered. That really stood out and you knew at that moment that Bynum was worth the risk.

With Bronny I've never seen a moment in a meaningful situation in the NBA where he's really made a difference. Now that doesn't mean he never will. I'm just saying G league stats and throwing up numbers in garbage time in the NBA is not really a way to measure progress.

JHS is playing a lot of those meaningless minutes and just had a 18 point outing for 76ers. Doesn't hold much weight either.

Also lets go back to Reaves. His rook year. Vogel gave him a chance right away. He showed some real signs immediately. You felt it. Now sure Reaves was always way better than your typical rookie. I'm just saying whenever Bronny's been given moments to show something in a game/situation that matters, he's either crap or shows nothing of substantial value.

Max Christie may be a good example but I'll say this, Max showed me right away he at least had some offense and length over players at guard. I don't even get that with Bronny. We're basically developing a guy to be a backup in the NBA, and rarely you see teams do that. With Christie, we at least developed him to a point where he was a starter for us on a 4th seeded Lakers team. I don't see Bronny getting that. Sure, 2nd round picks usually end up out of the league. That doesn't mean you draft someone KNOWING FULL WELL his best case scenario is a borderline NBA player/backup. That's where the Lebron James argument comes in. You did so because of Lebron. Which is totally fine. I don't have a problem with it. It's a small small price to pay to keep Lebron happy and engaged (Look at Lebron's level this year and where our team is in the standings vs last). What I don't have an issue with (that others including Lebron seem to) is calling a spade a spade. Bronny got drafted not on his upside, but because of his father. That's not to say he can't make it in the NBA. Look at Reaves, he wasn't even drafted. With hard work, support etc. anyone at that borderline NBA level can make it. Just, no one would have given that commitment as a draft pick and project to take on if his name were Bronny Rahim instead.

I mean have a look at Max Christie's numbers before drafting in college and compare them to Bronny's. That's the whole area people talk about and I don't know why it offends people. It's not really a lie to say Bronny got drated because he's Lebron's kid. He had a horrendous freshman year and still ended up being drafted. Most players coming off a year like that, won't even declare until a year later or so after a better year. However Bronny always had 1 team in the bag, the one pops played on. Nothing wrong in saying that, you can say that and also believe Bronny can make it in the league ala Max Christie etc.


Agree that G League stats are mostly meaningless, but disagree with almost everything else here. We paid to buy a high second round pick to draft Max.
If anything you'd expect to see more from him than Bronny right away, and he didn't look like an NBA player as a rookie either. He had a bad summer league and preseason and made 1 shot in real NBA games from February through April. Bronny may never develop into a starter, but he was also picked ~20 spots after Max as the 55th guy in a 58 man draft. The idea that teams don't draft someone because their best case scenario is a backup player is just off. Most second round picks you're hoping will develop into backups rather than be out of the league in a few years. Bronny was obviously drafted partially because his dad is Lebron, but that fact does not negate the upside that he had. Both things can be factors.

For some reason in the arguments around Bronny the fact that his dad is Lebron is used as this silver bullet, as if Bron doesn't have another kid who did not make the Mcdonalds All American game, was not a top 20 HS recruit, is only a 3 star recruit, etc. I guess the James family ran out of influence and money to buy all these accolades for Bronny that they had nothing left for Bryce. The argument against Bronny always seems to boil down to, well if his dad wasn't Lebron he...he would have gone back to college for 1 or 2 more years! OK? I agree that it is fine to say Bron played a role in Bronny being drafted here and also that Bronny can make it in the league, but too much emphasis is put on the former. Folks were literally acting like the #250 HS recruit was given a free roster spot as opposed to someone who was maybe a year early but also has potential. As though potential picks haven't happened before. I mean we've seen top HS recruits miss their entire lone season of college ball and still get drafted.

Bron was a factor to give Bronny a chance to be drafted after a shortened college season (due to heart surgery recovery) because he is Bron but also because being on the team gave us more visibility into what was going on with Bronny than others would have had. It's obviously multiple factors at play but these argument seem to always devolve into well you think that Bron's influence was 80% the reason that Bronny got drafted but I think it's 95%. Who cares. You say that he wouldn't have been drafted if his name was Bronny Rahim, but if that was his name then I don't think anyone would be scrutinizing the rationale for a #55 pick this much either. We probably would just be saying OK I guess instead of taking a 24 year old two time transfer college player we took a 19 year old who checks many boxes (length, athleticism, high school accolades, top recruit pre heart surgery, etc) to see if we can develop him at the end of the bench. The kid was ranked as a potential late first round pick the summer before his college season, before his cardiac arrest. If it was just favoritism because he is Bron's son, then I'd like to know why that favoritism stopped at Bronny and it doesn't apply to Bryce, who no one has ranked as a top HS prospect or potential NBA pick.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:25 am    Post subject:

We knew Bronny had NBA speed/quickness. His drawbacks are:

- Size
- Handle
- Shooting


Does his athleticism allow him to overcome his size, a la Dennis Schoder? It appears that it will.

Can his handle get up to NBA level? He won't be Trae Young or Chris Paul, but his handle has improved even in the course of this season.

Will his shooting get to a level where teams have to stay with him on the PnR and not go under screens? That remains to be seen. Shooting can improve with work.

My prediction? Bronny will become a serviceable 15-20 minute great POA defender/good enough shooter. High end: Darrell Armstrong. Low end: Tyronn Lue.
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Bron was a factor to give Bronny a chance to be drafted after a shortened college season (due to heart surgery recovery)

That's all I'm really saying. Kids with Bronny's history, if they didn't have a father like Lebron vouching to play on his team, would go back to college.

Max Christie's college year was far better than Bronny's. That's been my point. Even if Bronny was showing NBA potential in HS. By the end of his freshman year in college there was no way he would be drafted had he not been Lebron's kid. Now say he had a good year,, a really good year. That's a different equation. You follow up your HS career with a solid to good NBA freshman year, even if you're without a NBA position and undersized for a wing and not really a PG on offense, you'll get drafted possibly IF you have a great college year. He came off a weak college year (yes I know health was a reason). My point is it's not insane to acknowledge that Bronny would not have been drafted in these circumstances had he been someone else's kid. He may eventually have been drafted, but only after a stronger college season.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with his potential to make it as a Laker or in the NBA. I've said it many times, any one who has a decent amount of talent if they work hard enough and find a niche role they can make it in the NBA. Bronny certainly can.

What I'm saying that people in his situation do not get drafted and 3 year guarantee deals. The reason he got that treatment is Lebron/Lakers. No one regular's kid would get that treatment. He got different treatment, yet some can't even come to admit it (including Lebron himself). The way these things work is if you're treated different, then you also have to expect people will treat you different than a typical 2nd round pick.

Anyway, on to his actual potential. I feel the thread is accurate for the most part. He has potential as a defender, pressure/POA and also could be a solid 3nD guy down the road. Hope it happens. Also, I do feel guys like Bronny could easily be had in the undrafted pool, but that's not really a big deal to me. Anything you get from Bronny as a Laker is gravy, because the real reason thsi was done is Lebron. Keep him happy and a Laker. If Bronny makes it into a rotational = even bigger win. Keeping Lebron = win, already.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:41 am    Post subject:

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I’d say he’s a steal for a 55th pick. He looks better than Max Christie or Lewis did in their rookie seasons. Heck, he looks better than JHS too in my opinion and he was a # 17 pick. Yeah, JHS put up monster stats in the gleague but he was garbage when he got NBA minutes.

Bronny At least stepped up in one NBA game.


Bronny was always gonna eventually pan out, his dad will never let his kids get embarrassed, the James family are always thriving for success


IG you should trademark that phrase: "thriving for success" instead of striving.


IG will have Bronny in trade rumors within the next two years.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2025 2:18 pm    Post subject:

Yea. I don't buy the narrative that you don't draft someone at #55 to be a back up. Majorty picks that late are busts. Caruso is not a starter for a contender and Lakers developed him as an undrafted player. OKC traded for him because they beleive he will make a difference in playoffs like he did for Lakers in 2019-20 championship run. Bronny has the tools for Lakers to develop him to be way more valuable than a #55 pick.
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