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| defense wrote: | They should start him at PG so we can watch Lebron blame everyone and everything but Bronny. lol
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I wish they would start him.Dlo doesn't get us anywhere so if player dev is the primary focus put bron jr out there.
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| Halflife wrote: | | defense wrote: | They should start him at PG so we can watch Lebron blame everyone and everything but Bronny. lol
Would be great entertainment. |
I wish they would start him.Dlo doesn't get us anywhere so if player dev is the primary focus put bron jr out there. |
He isn’t a PG.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | defense wrote: | They should start him at PG so we can watch Lebron blame everyone and everything but Bronny. lol
Would be great entertainment. |
I wish they would start him.Dlo doesn't get us anywhere so if player dev is the primary focus put bron jr out there. |
He isn’t a PG. |
doesn't matter.bron is our primary ball handler.
In the spirit of the bad news bears:
let him play,let him play...
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| Halflife wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | defense wrote: | They should start him at PG so we can watch Lebron blame everyone and everything but Bronny. lol
Would be great entertainment. |
I wish they would start him.Dlo doesn't get us anywhere so if player dev is the primary focus put bron jr out there. |
He isn’t a PG. |
doesn't matter.bron is our primary ball handler.
In the spirit of the bad news bears:
let him play,let him play... |
Player development isn't the primary focus. Winning before the window of opportunity completely closes is. |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | THT to me looks better than Bronny by a lot in those clips, but we all knew that in those 1 on 1 situations THT was better anyway. We're not going to be asking Bronny to score that way. THT has great NBA body but he can't shoot from outside well enough. That's why he's struggling to get a new deal in the NBA.
The things that will make or break Bronny's NBA career
3 point shooting.
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| lakersboy wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | defense wrote: | They should start him at PG so we can watch Lebron blame everyone and everything but Bronny. lol
Would be great entertainment. |
I wish they would start him.Dlo doesn't get us anywhere so if player dev is the primary focus put bron jr out there. |
He isn’t a PG. |
doesn't matter.bron is our primary ball handler.
In the spirit of the bad news bears:
let him play,let him play... |
Player development isn't the primary focus. Winning before the window of opportunity completely closes is. |
Pelinka was clear that player dev was key. You don’t go into a year where it is clear that the west got better, hire a zero experience rookie coach ( though I like him), make zero significant moves, expect our 2 stars, who only played more than 65 games once to do it again, which still got us beat in the first round and expect to compete for a ring. I am a firm believer in that anything is possible, but that works for everyone and anything.
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| lakersboy wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | defense wrote: | They should start him at PG so we can watch Lebron blame everyone and everything but Bronny. lol
Would be great entertainment. |
I wish they would start him.Dlo doesn't get us anywhere so if player dev is the primary focus put bron jr out there. |
He isn’t a PG. |
doesn't matter.bron is our primary ball handler.
In the spirit of the bad news bears:
let him play,let him play... |
Player development isn't the primary focus. Winning before the window of opportunity completely closes is. |
Which opportunity do you speak of? |
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ist funny how our window is still open yet some say because of their player departures the nuggs window is closed. It took a superteam to beat jokic in the olympics.i know its not apples to apples but that doesn't seem to matter when discussing our guys.
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| Work ethic comes a long way for players becoming a useful/quality player in the NBA, they didn’t just draft him cause he is LeBron’s son, this isn’t some sitcom movie, Jeanie talking about how hard he works should bring us excitement, it’s really hard for players to have work ethic nowadays especially with social media and entertainment stuff going on |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Work ethic comes a long way for players becoming a useful/quality player in the NBA, they didn’t just draft him cause he is LeBron’s son |
Yes, they did.
He'll have work ethic though and be in the G-league the majority of the year and we hope he'll become something that can be used in the NBA.
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| MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Work ethic comes a long way for players becoming a useful/quality player in the NBA, they didn’t just draft him cause he is LeBron’s son |
Yes, they did.
He'll have work ethic though and be in the G-league the majority of the year and we hope he'll become something that can be used in the NBA. |
I think the Lakers will let him have a run in training camp/preseason to see if he can add anything to the team this year or assign him to G League, 1 of the guys on ESPN 710 said he can help the team in limited minutes this year and I completely agree with him, not everyone is like JHS |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Work ethic comes a long way for players becoming a useful/quality player in the NBA, they didn’t just draft him cause he is LeBron’s son |
Yes, they did.
He'll have work ethic though and be in the G-league the majority of the year and we hope he'll become something that can be used in the NBA. |
I think the Lakers will let him have a run in training camp/preseason to see if he can add anything to the team this year or assign him to G League, 1 of the guys on ESPN 710 said he can help the team in limited minutes this year and I completely agree with him, not everyone is like JHS |
JHS is a better player than Bronny James currently.
No one serious(as in not an ESPN analyst) is under the illusion that Bronny is actually going to get minutes at the NBA level this year if all guards are healthy.
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| MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Work ethic comes a long way for players becoming a useful/quality player in the NBA, they didn’t just draft him cause he is LeBron’s son |
Yes, they did.
He'll have work ethic though and be in the G-league the majority of the year and we hope he'll become something that can be used in the NBA. |
I think the Lakers will let him have a run in training camp/preseason to see if he can add anything to the team this year or assign him to G League, 1 of the guys on ESPN 710 said he can help the team in limited minutes this year and I completely agree with him, not everyone is like JHS |
JHS is a better player than Bronny James currently.
No one serious(as in not an ESPN analyst) is under the illusion that Bronny is actually going to get minutes at the NBA level this year if all guards are healthy. |
I agree that JHS...for all his trails/tribulations...is a better player that Bronny, currently. I also agree that Bronny was drafted by the Lakers, solely because of LeBron.
That said, that doesn't mean that Bronny doesn't have talent/potential. Nor does it negate that he was worthy of a late second round pick. Full context, he was drafted at 55... That's almost undrafted. Guys picked in that range are all just "hopefuls", who aren't going to see a lot...or, most times, any...time with their parent ball club. They're either stashed overseas, or G-Leaguers. The same will be said for Bronny.
The only exception that Bronny received that was controversial/unusual, was that he was signed to a multi-year guaranteed contract.
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | they didn’t just draft him cause he is LeBron’s son |
This is 95% of the reason why they drafted this specific player. Some people think LeBron forced them to, but in reality Rob and Jeanie are breaking down his door with these ideas to make the Lakers brand more of a money-making spectacle.
The reason why they drafted him isn't important in the long run at all though. If he's a good basketball player, he'll prove it. If not, he won't, and he'll be out of the league. I think he's actually a really intriguing prospect and a no-brainer at #55. |
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Zach Lowe expects the Lakers to play Bronny James in the first game of the season so that he and LeBron can have a moment together
“He’s 100% playing in the opening game so they can have a moment together,”
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| Halflife wrote: | Zach Lowe expects the Lakers to play Bronny James in the first game of the season so that he and LeBron can have a moment together
“He’s 100% playing in the opening game so they can have a moment together,” |
The opening night photo op was the only reason to draft him.
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| Halflife wrote: | Zach Lowe expects the Lakers to play Bronny James in the first game of the season so that he and LeBron can have a moment together
“He’s 100% playing in the opening game so they can have a moment together,” |
I’m glad that the Lakers focus is so laser sharp on a championship this season. Maybe Bronny can represent them at the lottery? Oh, wait..
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| ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | Zach Lowe expects the Lakers to play Bronny James in the first game of the season so that he and LeBron can have a moment together
“He’s 100% playing in the opening game so they can have a moment together,” |
The opening night photo op was the only reason to draft him. |
we all knew this was the case, so its not a surprise and TBH its most likely not the difference between winning and losing. It does show that jeanie is literally running the Lakers as if they were GLOW.
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| Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | Zach Lowe expects the Lakers to play Bronny James in the first game of the season so that he and LeBron can have a moment together
“He’s 100% playing in the opening game so they can have a moment together,” |
The opening night photo op was the only reason to draft him. |
we all knew this was the case, so its not a surprise and TBH its most likely not the difference between winning and losing. It does show that jeanie is literally running the Lakers as if they were GLOW. |
I disagree with this and think this line of thinking is emblematic of how the FO sees things and why we are in the state we are in. The CBA (and other circumstances) has effectively eliminated all of our advantages aside from geography. The parity the league wanted has been largely achieved. It’s a game of inches now. The teams that win are going to be the teams that win on the margins, reducing if not eliminating unforced errors. In a vacuum signing LeBron’s son to a guaranteed, multi-year contract and committing a roster spot to him so they can have a feel-good photo op might seem harmless. That roster spot would have been extremely useful to our ability to compete this year. The pick itself could have been used to acquire a useful player. Because of dumb stunts like this, moronic POs given out like candy, and our horrific draft record the last few years we are rostering way too many guys who simply can’t play. It not only hurts depth but their claimed roster spots eliminate our ability to improve. This is the difference between winning and losing.
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| MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Work ethic comes a long way for players becoming a useful/quality player in the NBA, they didn’t just draft him cause he is LeBron’s son |
Yes, they did.
He'll have work ethic though and be in the G-league the majority of the year and we hope he'll become something that can be used in the NBA. |
Of course they did. He had a bad 1st year at College, in part bc of his heart condition. If he wasn't LeBron's son, he would never had declared for the draft. He'd have gone for a 2nd year to improve.
And he declared only bc he knew he would be drafted by the Lakers.
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| ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | Zach Lowe expects the Lakers to play Bronny James in the first game of the season so that he and LeBron can have a moment together
“He’s 100% playing in the opening game so they can have a moment together,” |
The opening night photo op was the only reason to draft him. |
we all knew this was the case, so its not a surprise and TBH its most likely not the difference between winning and losing. It does show that jeanie is literally running the Lakers as if they were GLOW. |
I disagree with this and think this line of thinking is emblematic of how the FO sees things and why we are in the state we are in. The CBA (and other circumstances) has effectively eliminated all of our advantages aside from geography. The parity the league wanted has been largely achieved. It’s a game of inches now. The teams that win are going to be the teams that win on the margins, reducing if not eliminating unforced errors. In a vacuum signing LeBron’s son to a guaranteed, multi-year contract and committing a roster spot to him so they can have a feel-good photo op might seem harmless. That roster spot would have been extremely useful to our ability to compete this year. The pick itself could have been used to acquire a useful player. Because of dumb stunts like this, moronic POs given out like candy, and our horrific draft record the last few years we are rostering way too many guys who simply can’t play. It not only hurts depth but their claimed roster spots eliminate our ability to improve. This is the difference between winning and losing. |
I mean the game. Absolutely if he was given significant minutes,based on who we've seen he could single-handedly ruin the season, but this is just a photo-op and a thank you to bron for taking our 50m per year.
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| ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | Zach Lowe expects the Lakers to play Bronny James in the first game of the season so that he and LeBron can have a moment together
“He’s 100% playing in the opening game so they can have a moment together,” |
The opening night photo op was the only reason to draft him. |
we all knew this was the case, so its not a surprise and TBH its most likely not the difference between winning and losing. It does show that jeanie is literally running the Lakers as if they were GLOW. |
I disagree with this and think this line of thinking is emblematic of how the FO sees things and why we are in the state we are in. The CBA (and other circumstances) has effectively eliminated all of our advantages aside from geography. The parity the league wanted has been largely achieved. It’s a game of inches now. The teams that win are going to be the teams that win on the margins, reducing if not eliminating unforced errors. In a vacuum signing LeBron’s son to a guaranteed, multi-year contract and committing a roster spot to him so they can have a feel-good photo op might seem harmless. That roster spot would have been extremely useful to our ability to compete this year. The pick itself could have been used to acquire a useful player. Because of dumb stunts like this, moronic POs given out like candy, and our horrific draft record the last few years we are rostering way too many guys who simply can’t play. It not only hurts depth but their claimed roster spots eliminate our ability to improve. This is the difference between winning and losing. |
I think we're overindexing on the roster spot and 55th pick here. I don't think we'd really care about this had we made an impactful trade with our picks. Perhaps the team actually anticipated such a many-to-one trade happening, thus freeing up a roster spot. I didn't see any feasibly attainable FA that would've meaningfully impacted our tier in the regular season. Like GTJ? We have enough no-defense guards. Tyus Jones? Really useful if we had sent out DLo, otherwise not a good fit.
I think the biggest problem is we're mid, and we're taking it out on picking Bronny with the 55th pick (honestly who gives a (bleep)?) and giving Cam Reddish the PO. I firmly believe we can dump these guys at any point. |
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| levon wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | Zach Lowe expects the Lakers to play Bronny James in the first game of the season so that he and LeBron can have a moment together
“He’s 100% playing in the opening game so they can have a moment together,” |
The opening night photo op was the only reason to draft him. |
we all knew this was the case, so its not a surprise and TBH its most likely not the difference between winning and losing. It does show that jeanie is literally running the Lakers as if they were GLOW. |
I disagree with this and think this line of thinking is emblematic of how the FO sees things and why we are in the state we are in. The CBA (and other circumstances) has effectively eliminated all of our advantages aside from geography. The parity the league wanted has been largely achieved. It’s a game of inches now. The teams that win are going to be the teams that win on the margins, reducing if not eliminating unforced errors. In a vacuum signing LeBron’s son to a guaranteed, multi-year contract and committing a roster spot to him so they can have a feel-good photo op might seem harmless. That roster spot would have been extremely useful to our ability to compete this year. The pick itself could have been used to acquire a useful player. Because of dumb stunts like this, moronic POs given out like candy, and our horrific draft record the last few years we are rostering way too many guys who simply can’t play. It not only hurts depth but their claimed roster spots eliminate our ability to improve. This is the difference between winning and losing. |
I think we're overindexing on the roster spot and 55th pick here. I don't think we'd really care about this had we made an impactful trade with our picks. Perhaps the team actually anticipated such a many-to-one trade happening, thus freeing up a roster spot. I didn't see any feasibly attainable FA that would've meaningfully impacted our tier in the regular season. Like GTJ? We have enough no-defense guards. Tyus Jones? Really useful if we had sent out DLo, otherwise not a good fit.
I think the biggest problem is we're mid, and we're taking it out on picking Bronny with the 55th pick (honestly who gives a (bleep)?) and giving Cam Reddish the PO. I firmly believe we can dump these guys at any point. |
Few things here. Again, in a vacuum Bronny isn’t a big deal. Neither is Cam’s PO. When viewed in the context of a pattern of consistent unforced errors these things add up to put us in the unenviable spot we’re in. The players you mentioned (plus several others) would have been significantly more helpful than Bronny or Cam or Hayes or Wood or Lewis or JHS. It would also provide us with flexibility to move other pieces they overlap in skillset. One unforced error is easy to shrug off. Several in a row? Not so much. The problem is much bigger than Bronny. If we could have easily dumped our trash at any point as you say I am confident it would have been done already but nobody wants these guys and even if they were willing to take them it would cost us some measure of draft compensation. Draft compensation that could be used to improve the team instead of cleaning up mistakes. We continue to make bonehead decisions and find ourselves increasingly stuck with the consequences. The attitude of “it’s no big deal to roster this absolute dud” and “let’s just let this valuable player walk” and “who cares if we offer these fringe guys POs” has a snowball effect which leads to a significant portion of our roster being taken up by guys who aren’t NBA players.
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