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LakersRGolden
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | I agree with the masses that on the surface moving DLO for Klay is not a RS upgrade but when you think about playoff matchups it gets much more interesting.
Teams don't scheme to stop DLO off the ball. Not nearly as much as they would with Klay. He has a rep and respected sharpshooter that would be playing off screens and in motion. This gives the Lakers a little bit of a different look. Factor in they have Gabe, Austin, JHS, Max. There's a lot of 2 guard or 3rd guard combos they would be able to play with Klay that would be more effective in a playoff setting than with DLO.
Regular season wise though, DLO > Klay of last year. Playoffs? I take Klay every time. Teams will actually have to scheme or pay with not putting body on Klay. He is not someone that needs the ball to score. He is an extremely good complement to AD/Bron, who are high usage guys.
I would view him as Danny Green 19-20 on steroids. In a 25 mpg role, I think he would give better effort on defense than we saw in GST. That said, I'm neither here or there on this move. I think at best this move helps us in the POs but hurts us in the RS a bit.
Would GST even want DLO for Klay? |
Not seeing where LeBron hero ball in the playoffs makes us a good team without a real point guard. Maybe Gabe steps in. Maybe we trade AR? |
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tox
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:11 am Post subject: |
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| I agree with wolf minus any optimism for defense |
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Zillethai
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: |
If Klay wants the MLE, then thats a different ball game. Klay as a straight up signing? Cool. Klay but giving up our depth and key pieces to the Warriors and paying him $27-$30 Million? No thank you. |
The Celtics have depth. AR, DLO, T Prince, Dimwiddie, Gabe Vincent, Woods etc is not depth. Its a squad that collapses in the post season. I would ship all these clowns out for Klay. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Zillethai wrote: | | MJST wrote: |
If Klay wants the MLE, then thats a different ball game. Klay as a straight up signing? Cool. Klay but giving up our depth and key pieces to the Warriors and paying him $27-$30 Million? No thank you. |
The Celtics have depth. AR, DLO, T Prince, Dimwiddie, Gabe Vincent, Woods etc is not depth. |
That's precisely what it is. And Klay is a lateral move, not one we actually need to make nor something the team is missing.
Stop assuming Klay is Klay of 4-5 years ago. He's not. On this team his production wouldn't be far off from Reaves and he'd cost twice as much. Cutting any depth for Klay (outside of maybe Rui) isn't worth it in the slightest.
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SoCal88
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:36 am Post subject: |
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It's not even funny anymore...
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:44 am Post subject: |
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| Lol. |
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Rakim Allah
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:50 am Post subject: |
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| Zillethai wrote: | | MJST wrote: |
If Klay wants the MLE, then thats a different ball game. Klay as a straight up signing? Cool. Klay but giving up our depth and key pieces to the Warriors and paying him $27-$30 Million? No thank you. |
The Celtics have depth. AR, DLO, T Prince, Dimwiddie, Gabe Vincent, Woods etc is not depth. It’s a squad that collapses in the post season. I would ship all these clowns out for Klay. |
9:45am. Damn, you started early. Make sure you stay hydrated, friend. |
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quartzcharm
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| C'mon. Did we actually think we were getting Klay? We aren't getting DeMar either so let's stop that now. |
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oaktown_dimond
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:58 am Post subject: |
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eh, i'm fine with losing out on klay. this had remnants of westbrook. meaning aging superstars past their prime... just on name alone.
and we have too many much younger shooting guards anyway. they need to eat too. |
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Zillethai
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| Whelp that ends that. Go get Dwight Howard Rob. |
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Zillethai
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| /end thread. |
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ducasse
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| It's probably for the best. Klay is a bad defender now and going 0-10 in the biggest game of the season is DLO-like. |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe Klay simply don’t wanna play with Bron, rival kinda thing, the anti-KD. Oh well
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| eff you klay! |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | | Maybe Klay simply don’t wanna play with Bron, rival kinda thing, the anti-KD. Oh well |
I'd imagine it has more to do with how much longer LeBron plans on playing. If LeBron were likely to play 2-3 more years, it'd probably be a bit more likely he'd come to LA. But if he's a year-to-year, and most likely one more season then Dallas is actually a better destination.
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Klay was smart in that when LBJ calls it quits soon, there’s a significant rebuild and losing patch coming.. Dallas is fresh off finals and has both less pressure and taxes… smart choice, IMO.
And, unless pick were involved (hopefully they were not) then Warriors were smart not to take on salary for no reason… |
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I Bleed P&G
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Klay coming here would be more of an asset for his veteran leadership not so much his play. |
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lakersfever714
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Good riddance
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I don’t believe the Lakers offered more than Dallas did but either way, they dodged an enormous bullet with this one. |
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SoCal88
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Now that I think about it, if the reporting is true that $20M/per for Klay is A LOT of money
I have to remember that Klay lost his starting job to Brandin Podziemski
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kfkilla
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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| SoCal88 wrote: | Now that I think about it, if the reporting is true that $20M/per for Klay is A LOT of money
I have to remember that Klay lost his starting job to Brandin Podziemski
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People forget this. I don’t get it. I think there are a bunch of small children than want their ice cream and want it now! |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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Time to lock this up. No point in discussing this further.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | Time to lock this up. No point in discussing this further. |
Agreed
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