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| ducasse wrote: | Efficiency rating for Team USA for the six games:
1. LeBron 23.5
2. AD 16.8
3. KD 15.5
4. Steph 14.5
5. Book 14.2 |
It's hard to NOT win multiple championships with the top 2 efficient guys on your team but the Lakers have managed to find a way to do it. Hopefully, we get good health this season and win number 18.
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waterman40
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Things went really well for us, I wonder who not be on next Olympics squad?
Lebron - He can't play forever, but maybe he is retired but says in shape to play in the Olympics?
Durant - You would think this is his last go-round
Curry - I think he is one and done.
Embid - Probably the same for Embid
Tatum - Does the slight of the DNP's affect him more than Haliburton?
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| Dominic1981 wrote: | Very underwhelming performance by USA all together. Given the talent on the roster the scores were mostly pathetic and the Serbia game was a joke.
This is like a team favored to win by 20-50 points every game half assing there way to a medal. Wasn’t very inspiring |
Team USA isn't beating the best teams from the world by 20-50. Those days are over. Theres NBA all stars and NBA players on the other teams and they have better cohesiveness compared to Team USA. Thats why the games are close now. |
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| waterman40 wrote: | Things went really well for us, I wonder who not be on next Olympics squad?
Lebron - He can't play forever, but maybe he is retired but says in shape to play in the Olympics?
Durant - You would think this is his last go-round
Curry - I think he is one and done.
Embid - Probably the same for Embid
Tatum - Does the slight of the DNP's affect him more than Haliburton? |
0% chance LeBron plays in 4 years. Don't think Durant or Curry play beyond this year. Feels like Embiid probably won't if his body has trouble staying healthy.
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| waterman40 wrote: | Things went really well for us, I wonder who not be on next Olympics squad?
Lebron - He can't play forever, but maybe he is retired but says in shape to play in the Olympics?
Durant - You would think this is his last go-round
Curry - I think he is one and done.
Embid - Probably the same for Embid
Tatum - Does the slight of the DNP's affect him more than Haliburton? |
This was pretty much the last ride for Lebron and Steph. Kevin Durant could technically come back but he would be 39 then and he might be retired. My guess is you will see a much younger roster led by guys like Tyrese Halilburton, Anthony Edwards, etc. I think the tournament in 2028 will be even more competitive as the rest of the world will have better players in their primes coming at Team USA. |
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It's a great feeling compared to last year's FIBA tournament. Both Laker guys were amongst the best on the team and they won Gold.
AR was getting clowned on on a regular basis last year. He contributed on offense, but he was a defensive sieve.
I haven't been able to forget that, because his lack of defense carried over into the season and has been a problem with him since. |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | Dominic1981 wrote: | Very underwhelming performance by USA all together. Given the talent on the roster the scores were mostly pathetic and the Serbia game was a joke.
This is like a team favored to win by 20-50 points every game half assing there way to a medal. Wasn’t very inspiring |
Team USA isn't beating the best teams from the world by 20-50. Those days are over. Theres NBA all stars and NBA players on the other teams and they have better cohesiveness compared to Team USA. Thats why the games are close now. |
They should have lost to Serbia (with 1 elite NBA player, and a couple average NBA players), and were embarrassed by South Sudan that I don’t think had any NBA players.
The difference in talent between the US team and everyone else is similar to the difference between the Celtics and Pistons this year. All these games should have been blowouts.
it’s an NBA All Star team vs teams that have at most 3 NBA guys. |
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| Japago wrote: | It's a great feeling compared to last year's FIBA tournament. Both Laker guys were amongst the best on the team and they won Gold.
AR was getting clowned on on a regular basis last year. He contributed on offense, but he was a defensive sieve.
I haven't been able to forget that, because his lack of defense carried over into the season and has been a problem with him since. |
Who would anyone clown AR? He was on minimum contract and signed up to be the 12th man. The fact he played so well or even got so many minutes was already a pleasant surprise. WTF did Jalen Brunson, Bi; JJJ do? I was happy to see AR played. If we are talking about defense, blame Kerr for the defense scheme. If you always switch everything, teams are going to hunt you down. |
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| Dominic1981 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Dominic1981 wrote: | Very underwhelming performance by USA all together. Given the talent on the roster the scores were mostly pathetic and the Serbia game was a joke.
This is like a team favored to win by 20-50 points every game half assing there way to a medal. Wasn’t very inspiring |
Team USA isn't beating the best teams from the world by 20-50. Those days are over. Theres NBA all stars and NBA players on the other teams and they have better cohesiveness compared to Team USA. Thats why the games are close now. |
They should have lost to Serbia (with 1 elite NBA player, and a couple average NBA players), and were embarrassed by South Sudan that I don’t think had any NBA players.
The difference in talent between the US team and everyone else is similar to the difference between the Celtics and Pistons this year. All these games should have been blowouts.
it’s an NBA All Star team vs teams that have at most 3 NBA guys. |
They need time to gel just like any great team. Serbia played together for years. Team USA were put together in a month. No set plays, and no defense scheme. Basically won by sheer talent and the BBIQ of lebron. If they played together longer, there would be no close games. We are talking about stars have to adjust to be role players with the talent on this team. AD was the perfect example |
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| I also would like the NBA to adopt the FIBA rule that offensive goaltending is legal in the cylinder. It’s give big guys more value and inside play than it being all about the 3 |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | Japago wrote: | It's a great feeling compared to last year's FIBA tournament. Both Laker guys were amongst the best on the team and they won Gold.
AR was getting clowned on on a regular basis last year. He contributed on offense, but he was a defensive sieve.
I haven't been able to forget that, because his lack of defense carried over into the season and has been a problem with him since. |
Who would anyone clown AR? He was on minimum contract and signed up to be the 12th man. The fact he played so well or even got so many minutes was already a pleasant surprise. WTF did Jalen Brunson, Bi; JJJ do? I was happy to see AR played. If we are talking about defense, blame Kerr for the defense scheme. If you always switch everything, teams are going to hunt you down. |
People hated that he was picked for the team in the first place over players who were a lot more proven. Along with being a Laker, that's an easy recipe to get hate on you.
You can even argue he was one of the better performers on the team because he did have good offensive production most of the time, but his defensive issues were real and that was the main focus.
There were definitely better players who played worse, but there was so much focus on AR for "not deserving to be there". His good moments were downplayed and his flaws were magnified.
It was bad during that time if you frequented general NBA talk places. |
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Curry was incredible. What a shooter, simply incredible.
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| When the game is on the line, 2 lakers players, 2 suns players and 1 warriors player… Booker has been impressive, he basically took the Klay role. Played solid defense |
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| Dominic1981 wrote: | | I also would like the NBA to adopt the FIBA rule that offensive goaltending is legal in the cylinder. It’s give big guys more value and inside play than it being all about the 3 |
FIBA modified their traveling rule to more like ours. Making some changes to the leagues would help us be better prepared in future contests.
I'd go for the goaltending rule change.
Would like to see the 3 point line changed to the FIBA 22' 2" line.
Change to FIBA technical fouls also counting as a personal foul.
Could later to look to slightly narrow the court like FIBA.
Would like to see FIBA change to more like NBA rules, especially allowing less defender contact with the ballhandler, no body bumping or excessive contact.
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| Karmaloop wrote: | | waterman40 wrote: | Things went really well for us, I wonder who not be on next Olympics squad?
Lebron - He can't play forever, but maybe he is retired but says in shape to play in the Olympics?
Durant - You would think this is his last go-round
Curry - I think he is one and done.
Embid - Probably the same for Embid
Tatum - Does the slight of the DNP's affect him more than Haliburton? |
0% chance LeBron plays in 4 years. Don't think Durant or Curry play beyond this year. Feels like Embiid probably won't if his body has trouble staying healthy. |
Just realized the 2028 Olympics will be in LA… AD said he wants to play. I wonder if Curry will still have something left in the tank at 39. |
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| waterman40 wrote: | | Dominic1981 wrote: | | I also would like the NBA to adopt the FIBA rule that offensive goaltending is legal in the cylinder. It’s give big guys more value and inside play than it being all about the 3 |
FIBA modified their traveling rule to more like ours. Making some changes to the leagues would help us be better prepared in future contests.
I'd go for the goaltending rule change.
Would like to see the 3 point line changed to the FIBA 22' 2" line.
Change to FIBA technical fouls also counting as a personal foul.
Could later to look to slightly narrow the court like FIBA.
Would like to see FIBA change to more like NBA rules, especially allowing less defender contact with the ballhandler, no body bumping or excessive contact. |
Wouldn't want to see 3Pt line shorter. NBA players are making them at a high rate as is.
I don't want to see technicals count as personals. I want to see players on the floor as much as possible.
Not in favor of narrowing the court. If anything court should be a little wider with the 3PT line in the corners being so close to out of bounds.
I like the more physical contact being allowed by FIBA, but not if there is data saying it leads to more injuries. Players already miss a lot of time with injuries. |
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| ducasse wrote: | | waterman40 wrote: | | Dominic1981 wrote: | | I also would like the NBA to adopt the FIBA rule that offensive goaltending is legal in the cylinder. It’s give big guys more value and inside play than it being all about the 3 |
FIBA modified their traveling rule to more like ours. Making some changes to the leagues would help us be better prepared in future contests.
I'd go for the goaltending rule change.
Would like to see the 3 point line changed to the FIBA 22' 2" line.
Change to FIBA technical fouls also counting as a personal foul.
Could later to look to slightly narrow the court like FIBA.
Would like to see FIBA change to more like NBA rules, especially allowing less defender contact with the ballhandler, no body bumping or excessive contact. |
Wouldn't want to see 3Pt line shorter. NBA players are making them at a high rate as is.
I don't want to see technicals count as personals. I want to see players on the floor as much as possible.
Not in favor of narrowing the court. If anything court should be a little wider with the 3PT line in the corners being so close to out of bounds.
I like the more physical contact being allowed by FIBA, but not if there is data saying it leads to more injuries. Players already miss a lot of time with injuries. |
The ratio needs to change
3:2 is too much |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Karmaloop wrote: | | waterman40 wrote: | Things went really well for us, I wonder who not be on next Olympics squad?
Lebron - He can't play forever, but maybe he is retired but says in shape to play in the Olympics?
Durant - You would think this is his last go-round
Curry - I think he is one and done.
Embid - Probably the same for Embid
Tatum - Does the slight of the DNP's affect him more than Haliburton? |
0% chance LeBron plays in 4 years. Don't think Durant or Curry play beyond this year. Feels like Embiid probably won't if his body has trouble staying healthy. |
Just realized the 2028 Olympics will be in LA… AD said he wants to play. I wonder if Curry will still have something left in the tank at 39. |
The next coach should do coach K style, get multi year commitments. Meaning they play the summer before, do exhibitions as a team. The swing door method probably won’t work |
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Nice work lady Ballers! Their 5 billionth win in a row, I shall watch the broadcast this morning.
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| TDRock wrote: |
Nice work lady Ballers! Their 5 billionth win in a row, I shall watch the broadcast this morning. |
Man, they got lucky
I'm not usually one of the "ref's are fixing it crowd" but it was blatant in the USA Women's vs France game. A'ja got fouled about 4 times on 1 play with no calls, and on the other end USA got a clean block that was called a foul.
that was just 1 instance
the home cooking in this game was almost like "USA men beat France, so lets fix it so the French women win"
of course, it didn't help that the USA just didn't play well.
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| TDRock wrote: |
Nice work lady Ballers! Their 5 billionth win in a row, I shall watch the broadcast this morning. |
You are in for a treat! This was a fantastic game with both teams never yielding an inch. France played almost flawless but the USA found a way to eke out a W!
Helluva game! .... USA, USA!! |
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| P.K. wrote: | | TDRock wrote: |
Nice work lady Ballers! Their 5 billionth win in a row, I shall watch the broadcast this morning. |
Man, they got lucky
I'm not usually one of the "ref's are fixing it crowd" but it was blatant in the USA Women's vs France game. A'ja got fouled about 4 times on 1 play with no calls, and on the other end USA got a clean block that was called a foul.
that was just 1 instance
the home cooking in this game was almost like "USA men beat France, so lets fix it so the French women win"
of course, it didn't help that the USA just didn't play well. |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Karmaloop wrote: | | waterman40 wrote: | Things went really well for us, I wonder who not be on next Olympics squad?
Lebron - He can't play forever, but maybe he is retired but says in shape to play in the Olympics?
Durant - You would think this is his last go-round
Curry - I think he is one and done.
Embid - Probably the same for Embid
Tatum - Does the slight of the DNP's affect him more than Haliburton? |
0% chance LeBron plays in 4 years. Don't think Durant or Curry play beyond this year. Feels like Embiid probably won't if his body has trouble staying healthy. |
Just realized the 2028 Olympics will be in LA… AD said he wants to play. I wonder if Curry will still have something left in the tank at 39. |
Not sure for Steph as he will turn 40 during the next Olympic cycle and he ain't built like LBJ. As of today possibly a return of at least a couple of the bigs like AD and Bam and obviously Ant-Man and Cooper Flagg if he doesn't bust. I'll let you guys decide on the uncertainty surrounding Ja and Zion who have the talent to dominant for Team USA but the mental maturity and drive?
With our luck guys like Jaquez and Whitmore will get invited to fill the Derek White role player role lol.  |
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