Posted: Wed Jul 24, 2024 5:27 pm Post subject: Documentary from Disney and ESPN: "The Bubble"
Cool. Looking forward to this.
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Disney and ESPN are developing the official "The Bubble" documentary that will give "a behind-the-scenes look at the 2020 Pandemic-era NBA Playoffs and NBA Finals in quarantine at the Walt Disney World Resort."
One of my favourite runs along with the 2008 Finals run.
I know we lost in the Finals of 2008, but that run really brought us back to where we needed to be. After the Kobe parking lot video/trade demand fiasco, FO being cheap stuff, Bynum proving himself worthy then getting hurt by Kobe falling on him, LO being well LO, getting Pau. Making the Finals that year was special to me. Always will be. I just knew we had a legit team after the way Pau/Kobe/LO played together. It was like going from having to get prepared for a long ass re-build with Luol freaking Deng to a title level team. Nothing will ever compare to on and off the chemistry Kobe/Pau/LO had.
Then the bubble run/post-Kobe death run too. It holds such a special place in my heart. The way people blasted the Lakers all 2019 offseason, only to be shocked to see how they were the best team in basketball. Lebron was alleged washed, AD we overpaid for, Frank Vogel was undermined as a choice for HC. We didn't get Kawhi or PG/3rd star. Just that group was so collective, so cohesive, so well coached that entire year. To then see Kobe's death, Covid just pause that. I really had given up hope on the Lakers ever winning another title. Then the season re-starts. We look like (bleep) in the RS games in the bubble. Then from there we somehow overcome it all and get to the finish line. It really needed to happen. For Lebron to show he's truly great/not washed, for AD to show he's worth all that investment, for Frank to show he's a legit championship level coach, for guys like Caruso, KCP, Howard to show their value and importance. Most of all, Kobe. The fact we won in those ensuing months. So much pressure on us. Will always hold a very special place for me.
I look forward to the documentary but I doubt it will be any good and really cover how challenging that year was for the Lakers.
Having my team came thru in dark moment like covid 2020 was such a breath of fresh air. The MJ documentary was a nice oasis too _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
One of my favourite runs along with the 2008 Finals run.
I know we lost in the Finals of 2008, but that run really brought us back to where we needed to be. After the Kobe parking lot video/trade demand fiasco, FO being cheap stuff, Bynum proving himself worthy then getting hurt by Kobe falling on him, LO being well LO, getting Pau. Making the Finals that year was special to me. Always will be. I just knew we had a legit team after the way Pau/Kobe/LO played together. It was like going from having to get prepared for a long ass re-build with Luol freaking Deng to a title level team. Nothing will ever compare to on and off the chemistry Kobe/Pau/LO had.
Then the bubble run/post-Kobe death run too. It holds such a special place in my heart. The way people blasted the Lakers all 2019 offseason, only to be shocked to see how they were the best team in basketball. Lebron was alleged washed, AD we overpaid for, Frank Vogel was undermined as a choice for HC. We didn't get Kawhi or PG/3rd star. Just that group was so collective, so cohesive, so well coached that entire year. To then see Kobe's death, Covid just pause that. I really had given up hope on the Lakers ever winning another title. Then the season re-starts. We look like (bleep) in the RS games in the bubble. Then from there we somehow overcome it all and get to the finish line. It really needed to happen. For Lebron to show he's truly great/not washed, for AD to show he's worth all that investment, for Frank to show he's a legit championship level coach, for guys like Caruso, KCP, Howard to show their value and importance. Most of all, Kobe. The fact we won in those ensuing months. So much pressure on us. Will always hold a very special place for me.
I look forward to the documentary but I doubt it will be any good and really cover how challenging that year was for the Lakers.
Amen. I loved that team. So it pisses me off all the more when idiots bring up an asterisk, as if they would have done the same had any team other than the Lakers (and Bron) won the title that year.
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 4:27 pm Post subject:
A crazy time. I live right near Disney world. It was so weird driving around and seeing the busses carrying the teams back and forth to practice. We drove around near the one of the hotels and you could see the NBA Barbershop setup just above the fence.
One of my favourite runs along with the 2008 Finals run.
I know we lost in the Finals of 2008, but that run really brought us back to where we needed to be. After the Kobe parking lot video/trade demand fiasco, FO being cheap stuff, Bynum proving himself worthy then getting hurt by Kobe falling on him, LO being well LO, getting Pau. Making the Finals that year was special to me. Always will be. I just knew we had a legit team after the way Pau/Kobe/LO played together. It was like going from having to get prepared for a long ass re-build with Luol freaking Deng to a title level team. Nothing will ever compare to on and off the chemistry Kobe/Pau/LO had.
Then the bubble run/post-Kobe death run too. It holds such a special place in my heart. The way people blasted the Lakers all 2019 offseason, only to be shocked to see how they were the best team in basketball. Lebron was alleged washed, AD we overpaid for, Frank Vogel was undermined as a choice for HC. We didn't get Kawhi or PG/3rd star. Just that group was so collective, so cohesive, so well coached that entire year. To then see Kobe's death, Covid just pause that. I really had given up hope on the Lakers ever winning another title. Then the season re-starts. We look like (bleep) in the RS games in the bubble. Then from there we somehow overcome it all and get to the finish line. It really needed to happen. For Lebron to show he's truly great/not washed, for AD to show he's worth all that investment, for Frank to show he's a legit championship level coach, for guys like Caruso, KCP, Howard to show their value and importance. Most of all, Kobe. The fact we won in those ensuing months. So much pressure on us. Will always hold a very special place for me.
I look forward to the documentary but I doubt it will be any good and really cover how challenging that year was for the Lakers.
Well said, wolf. I will never forget that first game that Pau played for us. And Kobe coming up behind him during the on-court interview after the game ("Siii, me gusta!). That instant chemistry was so beautiful to watch. If you could create the perfect player to complement Kobe, it would've been Pau, even down to his personality and intellect.
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner. _________________ Dave McMenamin on the Lebron ERA: "Underwhelming"
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:38 pm Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
No.
Couldn't disagree more with the OP, shamefully giving into other teams'/fanbases' envy and propaganda against the Lakers.
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
No.
Couldn't disagree more with the OP, shamefully giving into other teams'/fanbases' envy and propaganda against the Lakers.
No. No bigger fan of the Lakers than me, but the season shouldn't have been played. It was almost shut down, that's why a 4-month break. But the commish thought the public needed it. Maybe he was right, but by no stretch of the imagination was that championship as rigorous as a traditional one.
No travel, and no fans, guys were on camera saying they didn't want to be there, and said games were like practices. It was ideal for us. Outside of last year (1st round exit) it was the only time bron/ad played more than 65 games. Regardless of how elite we thought that team was
Dwight- out of league
Boogie out
Danny green ?
Vogel out
Its cool we got our ring count up but if there was ever an asterisk its that year. Facts show without bubble we haven't been very good. _________________ Dave McMenamin on the Lebron ERA: "Underwhelming"
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
Meanwhile if somebody else won the title, they would've celebrated like it was the hardest championship title under dark clouds.
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:13 am Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
I bet if Kobe won a ring in the bubble Halflife would consider it entirely valid
IDK-he didn't. he ran through the most 50 win teams to get his. Im on board and understand it counts all the same. For me it doesnt. For you it does. You wouldn't trade it for a traditional run. I would. _________________ Dave McMenamin on the Lebron ERA: "Underwhelming"
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
Obviously I'm biased as a Lakers fan, but I've always felt like this title was harder than any other title. There were teams who literally couldn't be mentally tough enough (*cough* clippers *cough*) to handle being in the bubble and just quit despite being up 3-1 vs Nuggets. It takes special leadership and team culture for a squad to get through the stress of being away from family and secluded in a bubble and still win.
This will always be something debated, but this title meant just as much to me as any other title.
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
Obviously I'm biased as a Lakers fan, but I've always felt like this title was harder than any other title. There were teams who literally couldn't be mentally tough enough (*cough* clippers *cough*) to handle being in the bubble and just quit despite being up 3-1 vs Nuggets. It takes special leadership and team culture for a squad to get through the stress of being away from family and secluded in a bubble and still win.
This will always be something debated, but this title meant just as much to me as any other title.
I have always given Vogel his due. he was able to keep the teams focus. Mental has never really been this eras issue. Physical has been. That 4 month break,no travel, players getting baked not wanting to be there was a huge benefit to bron and AD. We have seen what they have done since. Up until last year season everyone said "if our two stars were healthy we would..." We finally saw them healthy for a full season, putting up big numbers. had supporting numbers. Fingers crossed. _________________ Dave McMenamin on the Lebron ERA: "Underwhelming"
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Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:58 am Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
ThePageDude wrote:
Nobody wrote:
Halflife wrote:
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
No.
Couldn't disagree more with the OP, shamefully giving into other teams'/fanbases' envy and propaganda against the Lakers.
No. No bigger fan of the Lakers than me, but the season shouldn't have been played. It was almost shut down, that's why a 4-month break. But the commish thought the public needed it. Maybe he was right, but by no stretch of the imagination was that championship as rigorous as a traditional one.
No travel, and no fans, guys were on camera saying they didn't want to be there, and said games were like practices. It was ideal for us. Outside of last year (1st round exit) it was the only time bron/ad played more than 65 games. Regardless of how elite we thought that team was
Dwight- out of league
Boogie out
Danny green ?
Vogel out
Its cool we got our ring count up but if there was ever an asterisk its that year. Facts show without bubble we haven't been very good.
Team owners convinced the commissioner that their budgets couldn’t withstand losing TV revenue because the season ended before the minimum number of games were played. Enjoy the bubble or don’t but it was based purely on economics. Which shouldn’t be a surprise, that is what professional sports are about. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Irrelevant of whether the bubble was a "real" championship no one is likely going to do a documentary on 2021-2024 championships because those are just "another" championship. The bubble is a special one and will be remembered for a really really long time.
Fortunately we didn’t have a parade for this. Anything universally known as
Mickey Mouse title
Bubble title
Practice title
Is probably worth accepting it and sneaking away. For me it’s embarrassing that it holds the same weight as other rings, but it does. It’s appropriate that this current era followed up that ring with an IST banner.
Meanwhile if somebody else won the title, they would've celebrated like it was the hardest championship title under dark clouds.
Because it was the hardest chip, professional basketball players literally quit in the bubble because it was so hard, cough clippers cough _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
It was a joke tournament and I got no feeling from it. It was as irrelevant as the Dodgers winning a “World Series” after a 60 game regular season.
At least the Rams got what I consider a legit title that year
it is funny both dodgers and lakers won. Both teams have guys that break down when the season is real. The shortened season with little fanfare was perfect. Clayton got his, jeanie/bron/ad got theirs. _________________ Dave McMenamin on the Lebron ERA: "Underwhelming"
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Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 3:51 pm Post subject:
I'm somewhere in between the "it counts for nothing!" "it counts for everything!" crowds.
Life in general was an extraordinary time and circumstance that will (hopefully) never be duplicated. I'm interested in the documentary just on that alone. Seeing anything about that time is always a bit of a trip. SportsNet has this "documentary" (that airs quite often) called "Leave A Legacy" and even tho it's a pure fluff piece, it is interesting just to look back on that time and the ways in which we all tried our best to just make it through. Sports and entertainment being an important part of surviving that time.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: “They just hating, man. It’s one of the hardest championships to win. You’re playing a season then the season’s shut down. You don’t know if you’re even going to come back and play basketball. We saw how, in the regular season, we was playing and then we was like, ‘What the f—.’ Season is over with, like damn. Like what if we can’t come back because we already had in our mind like, this is our championship regardless of if COVID stopped it or not. But then the season stops, boom, season starts back up and have to go to the bubble…Once we knew the season was starting back up in the bubble, we was hype. We was ready to go get our championship like we wanted. Then the season stopped again in the bubble. These things like had people’s minds messed up like ‘I’m ready to go home. Forget basketball.’ I’m so grateful and I appreciate all my teammates at the time, their mindset was on that championship. They were ready to go. They came here for a reason and we wanted it.” _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
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