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MJST
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| Halflife wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | this dude is like 10x better than bronny, lol |
tbh- I am surprised bron/pelinka let JJ play him. I am sure klutch/bron had a conversation after the fact telling JJ that playing guys who actually belong will be a bad look for jr. I have a feeling we wont see much, if any of QO again unless Jr makes a couple of early plays. |
It's good they did, because it showed Bronny hadn't "earned" anything. He was being given minutes he didn't deserve while better players were riding the bench. And if Bronny wasn't so next level horrible we'd never have seen it and they'd have kept with that lie.
Now the conversation instead of "Well Bronny is learning/he's just a 2nd round pick." is going to be "Why is Bronny in while Quincy is on the bench?" Let's get the pressure of the better players that ACTUALLY earned the chance to prove themselves to do it.
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JustaObserver
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| MJST wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | this dude is like 10x better than bronny, lol |
tbh- I am surprised bron/pelinka let JJ play him. I am sure klutch/bron had a conversation after the fact telling JJ that playing guys who actually belong will be a bad look for jr. I have a feeling we wont see much, if any of QO again unless Jr makes a couple of early plays. |
It's good they did, because it showed Bronny hadn't "earned" anything. He was being given minutes he didn't deserve while better players were riding the bench. And if Bronny wasn't so next level horrible we'd never have seen it and they'd have kept with that lie.
Now the conversation instead of "Well Bronny is learning/he's just a 2nd round pick." is going to be "Why is Bronny in while Quincy is on the bench?" Let's get the pressure of the better players that ACTUALLY earned the chance to prove themselves to do it. |
This goes even farther...we still waiting for Koloco or WHOEVER ANOTHER KLUTCH CLIENT? thats not even cleared..BUT TOOK A SPOT from a guy that could RIGHT NOW fill a need which is shooting in Blake Hinson....
I Already know the usual "excuses"...."but but we need centers"...Lets see our "centers"
Castleton: on a 2 way going into 2years? And still hadnt got the third slot on this tem? When is it time to let him fly out the nest?
Mike Jones: Played in the Summer league where he at? smh
Kelly: Going to the G-Leauge
Traoure: small center ummm forward THAT DONT SCORE...ie Runny Turif without the scoreing? smh
HOW MANY CENTERS WE NEED..THATS NOT GON BE OUR CENTERS?
Excuse number 2.."But but he couldnt defend"....My answer to that is who on this team can? Bronny? JHS? MaxL? smh None of these guys any better from the last time we sent them nor can score like him and def not any "great defenders"
In all we dont have one open slot for ANOTHER guy that looks like he can contributue in QO while still having no NO CENTER...smh.
But hey...we got BRONNNY..YEAHHHH! sale of jersey's for the next 4 years  |
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| Halflife wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | this dude is like 10x better than bronny, lol |
tbh- I am surprised bron/pelinka let JJ play him. I am sure klutch/bron had a conversation after the fact telling JJ that playing guys who actually belong will be a bad look for jr. I have a feeling we wont see much, if any of QO again unless Jr makes a couple of early plays. |
I have a hard time believing this is happening. I mean what a clown show if this shenanigans is going on. Unlike like many, I have ZERO problems with the Lakers taking Bronny at 55 and doing Lebron a solid. I honestly believe that's the extent of it from the Lakers side. That and perhaps get Bronny and Lebron together on opening night for a feel good story. But beyond that... I doubt there are conspiracies to not make Bronny look bad at the expense of more deserving players. I think that would be reading too much into things. If he is playing bad, and isn't assigned to the G-league all year... then we can talk. For now, I don't think we need to read too much into these things. |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | this dude is like 10x better than bronny, lol |
tbh- I am surprised bron/pelinka let JJ play him. I am sure klutch/bron had a conversation after the fact telling JJ that playing guys who actually belong will be a bad look for jr. I have a feeling we wont see much, if any of QO again unless Jr makes a couple of early plays. |
I have a hard time believing this is happening. I mean what a clown show if this shenanigans is going on. Unlike like many, I have ZERO problems with the Lakers taking Bronny at 55 and doing Lebron a solid. I honestly believe that's the extent of it from the Lakers side. That and perhaps get Bronny and Lebron together on opening night for a feel good story. But beyond that... I doubt there are conspiracies to not make Bronny look bad at the expense of more deserving players. I think that would be reading too much into things. If he is playing bad, and isn't assigned to the G-league all year... then we can talk. For now, I don't think we need to read too much into these things. |
I don't get the doing bron a solid. Outside of Bubble we haven't been good - we pay him a ton- we are on his 4th coach for him - we traded for his guy - he has zero accountability - he has zero options unless he wants to take a paycut - which he only did so they can sign his son - the lakers brand and the opportunity have benefited him plenty
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| Halflife wrote: | | Runway8 wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | this dude is like 10x better than bronny, lol |
tbh- I am surprised bron/pelinka let JJ play him. I am sure klutch/bron had a conversation after the fact telling JJ that playing guys who actually belong will be a bad look for jr. I have a feeling we wont see much, if any of QO again unless Jr makes a couple of early plays. |
I have a hard time believing this is happening. I mean what a clown show if this shenanigans is going on. Unlike like many, I have ZERO problems with the Lakers taking Bronny at 55 and doing Lebron a solid. I honestly believe that's the extent of it from the Lakers side. That and perhaps get Bronny and Lebron together on opening night for a feel good story. But beyond that... I doubt there are conspiracies to not make Bronny look bad at the expense of more deserving players. I think that would be reading too much into things. If he is playing bad, and isn't assigned to the G-league all year... then we can talk. For now, I don't think we need to read too much into these things. |
I don't get the doing bron a solid. Outside of Bubble we haven't been good - we pay him a ton- we are on his 4th coach for him - we traded for his guy - he has zero accountability - he has zero options unless he wants to take a paycut - which he only did so they can sign his son - the lakers brand and the opportunity have benefited him plenty |
This hasn't been a seriously run organization for many years now. I puked watching them hand such an iconic brand over to LeBron and lost interest in the team for the first time in my life since Showtime. |
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Quincy has made an impact when he was given the opportunity.
With Bronny, JHS and Lewis not making any tangible impact whenever they are on the court - their days to be on the G League team is increasing while QO has an open door to see how effective he can be with the Big Club.
With Bronny and JHS's struggles documented at various places in this forum, will the 6'7" Lewis with a 6'10" wingspan be a versatile scorer (supposedly he's a fluid shot creator comfortable out of ISOs and P&Rs) from the wing with the ability to pss off a live dribble and give a strong defensive effort against the NBA's best perimeter players? So far, nope
QO has shown to be a versatile scorer while giving strong and consistent defensive efforts while directly impacting the last game - albeit in a preseason games against scrubs. He is always playing with Purpose and Max Effort
Note: Lewis, Bronny and JHS didn't make any impact at the same game.
If QO is not on the Lakers, he will be quickly signed by another NBA team. |
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Quincy and Traore could be Jrue and Bam in couple years… Castleton and Max Lewis better step it up
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| Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:54 am Post subject: |
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| governator wrote: | Quincy and Traore could be Jrue and Bam in couple years…
Castleton and Max Lewis better step it up |
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A Mad Chinaman
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| governator wrote: | | Quincy and Traore could be Jrue and Bam in couple years… Castleton and Max Lewis better step it up |
In addition, Bronny and especially JSP need to step it up. Quincy is what many hope Bronny will be. |
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Probably should cut castleton and give his 2-way to olivary. I’ve seen enough of Colin.
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | Probably should cut castleton and give his 2-way to olivary. I’ve seen enough of Colin. |
Yeah agree at this point
I’d even try to give Olivari a roster spot if we can make a 2-for-1 trade
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| Quincy gotta make this team even if it’s as a 2-way. I have given up on Castleton and Maxwell Lewis. |
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This kid deserves a spot.
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Feels like they told him to stop scoring in the 2nd half because he was outshining the person they wanted to make this game about.
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| MJST wrote: | | Feels like they told him to stop scoring in the 2nd half because he was outshining the person they wanted to make this game about. |
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So can the Lakers just convert his contract into a 2 way or does Quincy have to agree first?
A lot of teams have open 2 way spots. So he may have choices. |
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| MJST wrote: | | Feels like they told him to stop scoring in the 2nd half because he was outshining the person they wanted to make this game about. |
How’d you get that feeling? |
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Feels like they told him to stop scoring in the 2nd half because he was outshining the person they wanted to make this game about. |
How’d you get that feeling? |
Because they did the same thing to Chris Douglas-Roberts, twice and screwed him over both times. And it's something that happens in the sport as other players have said. They'll ask you to go out and play a certain role with promises to retain you and then they don't. That is what they did to CDR and why he stopped being offensively aggressive when he was trying to make a spot on their team.
And I watched Quincy go out there and light it up on fire in the first half and then in the second half come out looking to playmake and score as his 2nd or 3rd option rather than seeking to score which he was doing in the First half and Golden State couldn't stop him.
Then came out in the 2nd half not looking to score much at all. It reeks of being told "look you can score but try to do other stuff". Which was basically code for 'stop outshining Bronny'. Whom was clearly who they wanted this night to be all about. Because if Quincy goes out there and drops 35 and Bronny scores his usual 0-4 points and the Lakers keep Bronny and cut Quincy it looks bad.
They did the same thing with Chris Douglas-Roberts when he was outshining Devin Ebanks whom they had already invested in (idiotically so) while CDR despite being the clearly better player was just trying to make the team. So the last game of the pre-season Ebanks got the shine that was needed, made some threes and was kept on the team. Went on to make no difference on a Lakers roster that could have used a player like CDR that season at that time in his career vs what Ebanks brought to the table which was nothing, but I digress.
Either way, Quincy has proven when he's been given the opportunity to be the kind of player you KEEP at all costs. He was a scorer in college and he came out and was scoring for our team and from three. He was one of the better scorers in college basketball and was a GEM of a get for us. But we were intentionally trying to hold him back to not hurt Bronny James Sr's feeling about his son not being on his level.
Quincy deserves a spot on this team, far more than Bronny does AND he's a player that the Lakers would do well to develop and keep around as I am willing to bet 100 out of 100 times he'll be a better player than whatever they're hoping Bronny will turn into. And they likely know it too, but had already 'invested' in Bronny -_-
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| Lakeshow23_ wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Feels like they told him to stop scoring in the 2nd half because he was outshining the person they wanted to make this game about. |
jesus |
Lol. I guess they told JHS to play like crap too.
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Young man has earned a roster spot. Sadly, probably won’t get it with the Lakers.
Only so many spots available for the developmental players role. He has a major obstacle in front of him with Make -a-Wish James.
Both have similar roles on the end of the bench. Both are considered “great stories”. One makes an impact on the floor, one sells jerseys.
Does not take much imagination to understand which one gets the nod. |
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manlisten
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Bronny is a 2nd round pick on the 15 man roster. He's not stopping Quincy from getting a 2 way deal.
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| manlisten wrote: | | Bronny is a 2nd round pick on the 15 man roster. He's not stopping Quincy from getting a 2 way deal. |
Feels like Quincy would already have locked up a 2way if Koloko had been cleared. Think they’re hanging on to Castleton in case he isn’t.
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| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | Young man has earned a roster spot. Sadly, probably won’t get it with the Lakers.
Only so many spots available for the developmental players role. He has a major obstacle in front of him with Make -a-Wish James.
Both have similar roles on the end of the bench. Both are considered “great stories”. One makes an impact on the floor, one sells jerseys.
Does not take much imagination to understand which one gets the nod. |
I have a feeling if the Lakers don’t sign him, someone else will And the Lakers could end regretting this a few years down the road and maybe even this year |
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| ocho wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Bronny is a 2nd round pick on the 15 man roster. He's not stopping Quincy from getting a 2 way deal. |
Feels like Quincy would already have locked up a 2way if Koloko had been cleared. Think they’re hanging on to Castleton in case he isn’t. |
Yep, that seems like the plan. If CK is cleared, Castleton becomes expendable.
If that happens hopefully he'll be open to returning to South Bay. |
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| The 9th string Warriors were scoring on Castleton like he wasn't even there. I literally couldn't see him on the defensive end. Castleton's not a Koloko backup. The only reason he isn't dumped is because the people that made the 2023 decisions can't take the L and are trying to spin it as "we're thinking about long term development here". |
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