Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 9:46 am Post subject: ESPN’s top 25 players of the 21st century:
The Lakers have 5 players and 3 in the top 5. I'm not including Nash or Westbrook because they weren't on the team that long and they didn't win a title with the Lakers.
1.LeBron James 2.Kobe Bryant
3.Stephen Curry
4.Tim Duncan
5.Shaquille O’Neal
6.Kevin Garnett
7.Nikola Jokic
8.Dwyane Wade
9.Kevin Durant
10.Dirk Nowitzki
11.Giannis Antetokounmpo
12.Steve Nash
13.James Harden
14.Jason Kidd
15.Chris Paul
16.Kawhi Leonard
17.Manu Ginobili
18.Allen Iverson
19.Anthony Davis
20.Ray Allen
21.Tony Parker
22.Draymond Green
23.Russell Westbrook
24.Pau Gasol
25.Luka Doncic
Melo didn't make it? Who can he replace? Ray Allen? Tony Parker? Manu? gotta be the chip _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
Harden was just an exploiter, right? Shooting 50 FTs a game doesn't make you good. It just shows you know how to exploit the system and the refs.
Some players drive to look to shoot. Some drive to look for passes. Harden drives looking to get fouled.
Westbrick must be a typo. _________________ I'm willing to eat my own poop and post on youtube for another Laker championship under Pelinka.
Lakers need a visionary GM because vision is scary.
Being relevant (on court) for 5 years out of the 24 this century doesn't really help his case, even if he was the most dominant player in those 5 years.
One guy jumped to another mans team. brought an all star cuck just to get his ring count up. even his biggest cheerleader said he needed Miami to even be in the conversation (shannon sharpe). Same guy led the team to a bronze. Played in a ridiculously easy conference and needed a once in a generation pandemic to win a ring, otherwise without covid hes had
2 1st round bounces
2 lotteries
1 WCF sweep.
2 guys got 5, in a ridiculously hard conference. Both guys flirted with leaving but never did.
1 guy beat the most 50 win teams on his way.
5 out 7
5 out 6
3* out 10 _________________ Dave McMenamin on the Lebron ERA: "Underwhelming"
One guy jumped to another mans team. brought an all star cuck just to get his ring count up. even his biggest cheerleader said he needed Miami to even be in the conversation (shannon sharpe). Same guy led the team to a bronze. Played in a ridiculously easy conference and needed a once in a generation pandemic to win a ring, otherwise without covid hes had
2 1st round bounces
2 lotteries
1 WCF sweep.
2 guys got 5, in a ridiculously hard conference. Both guys flirted with leaving but never did.
1 guy beat the most 50 win teams on his way.
5 out 7
5 out 6
3* out 10
And yet still get listed #1... and Top 3 in most goat polls.
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2024 5:27 pm Post subject:
First of all, Manu above AD is crazy to me. I had mad respect for Ginobili but in no way was he a better player. than AD. You can't tell me Manu deserves a spot over Vince Carter. This is supposed to be a top 25 player list. Not top players who contributed to championships making these types of lists so flawed. Tony Parker wasn't better than Kyrie.....FOH. lol. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
One guy jumped to another mans team. brought an all star cuck just to get his ring count up. even his biggest cheerleader said he needed Miami to even be in the conversation (shannon sharpe). Same guy led the team to a bronze. Played in a ridiculously easy conference and needed a once in a generation pandemic to win a ring, otherwise without covid hes had
2 1st round bounces
2 lotteries
1 WCF sweep.
2 guys got 5, in a ridiculously hard conference. Both guys flirted with leaving but never did.
1 guy beat the most 50 win teams on his way.
5 out 7
5 out 6
3* out 10
And yet still get listed #1... and Top 3 in most goat polls.
Keep writing narrative stories tho.
Like MJ and Kobe said. Tough to judge. The goal posts moved for him because the media and bronze fans fawn over him. Rings used to be the gauge. If they weren't he wouldn't have jumped to another mans team who was a few years removed from being a champion and also needed to bring an all star with him.
these list get tons of clicks. i am just grateful that Kobe never had to jump to another mans team. He knew he just needed functional guys around him to win rings. _________________ Dave McMenamin on the Lebron ERA: "Underwhelming"
What do you expect from LeESPN. This is the same network that was sending notifications every time bronny made a shot. The same network that said bronny is the favorite to win rookie MVP. They've sold their souls to klutch, just like we have and most of the media has. It's a garbage list from a garbage network that can't be taken seriously anymore....much like we aren't being taken seriously anymore and nobody wants to play or coach here.
Not mad at this comment at all _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
What do you expect from LeESPN. This is the same network that was sending notifications every time bronny made a shot. The same network that said bronny is the favorite to win rookie MVP. They've sold their souls to klutch, just like we have and most of the media has. It's a garbage list from a garbage network that can't be taken seriously anymore....much like we aren't being taken seriously anymore and nobody wants to play or coach here.
And yet, when you look at most of the "All Time Greatest" lists Kobe is barely hanging onto # 10, and Lebron is solidly #2.
on some of those lists it's going TD, Shaq, Kobe (10th)
After LBJ broke the scoring record, The Athletic polled current NBA players (103 responded) asking "who was the best player ever"
MJ 58.3%
Lebron 33%
Kobe 6.8%
Kobe was a great player, but not quite as great as MJ, LBJ, KAJ, Wilt, etc
about 10th is about right for the time being _________________ Never argue with a fool - listeners can't tell you apart
Wilt's unstoppable fadeaway: www.youtube.com/watch?v=8O9MgNfcGJA
NPZ's Magic Johnson mix: www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8Qbo0WqvOI
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