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C M B Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:51 pm Post subject: the effects of smart phones on society: good or bad |
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good or bad overall? _________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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I hate to say "it's complicated" because that's a cheesy, evasive description of a dysfunctional personal relationship . . . then again, maybe that's entirely accurate.
Short answer, it's like any hugely impactful advancement in society. There are undeniable pluses that come with certain, obvious detriments. With the smartphone, the biggest area remains accessibility - to both ourselves and information. We have immediate access to information and resources. And with that benefit comes the sense of immediate access people feel they have to us as individuals.
I think the positives outweigh the negatives in this day and age. The ability to immediately summon help with GPS information is huge in emergency situations. The ability to document social injustices has undoubtedly changed our world. I think those two things are a start in regards to justifying the offset
That said, from the standpoint of an old dude watching my kids. I wish that smartphones hadn't radically changed the way young people interact. It was much better when we had to be literally hangout together in person to interact rather than be able to have a fall back to exchanging TikTok videos. _________________ HARRIS WALZ 2024 |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:12 am Post subject: |
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I am not sure there is a real argument for anything except it's complicated among the choices provided. The positives are extremely significant, while it has introduced many potential negative impacts on daily life. |
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FernieBee Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:49 am Post subject: |
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I voted for "complicated" . . . but I suspect they call it a smartphone so the user doesn't realize how much of a dumbass he/she is for the inordinate amount of time spent using it. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Much like all new technology the effects are both good and bad. But I would rather live in a world where we are able to have a tool like a smartphone than a world without. |
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LarryCoon Site Staff
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:34 am Post subject: |
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"It's complicated" just by process of elimination, because something like that is never a binary good or bad. There are always elements of both, and when you refer to "society" you refer to a temporal snapshot and its effects on THAT. Society always adjusts to updates of the facts on the ground, and things are seen as good or bad because they're different -- and then society adjusts and that thing is normalized.It's happened over and over and over again. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:39 am Post subject: |
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LarryCoon wrote: | "It's complicated" just by process of elimination, because something like that is never a binary good or bad. There are always elements of both, and when you refer to "society" you refer to a temporal snapshot and its effects on THAT. Society always adjusts to updates of the facts on the ground, and things are seen as good or bad because they're different -- and then society adjusts and that thing is normalized.It's happened over and over and over again. |
In fairness, not all progress is good. And not all assimilations if it are positive. Our technological capability is probably too far ahead of our evolutionary state. We are rather simple primates in possession of god like power. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:06 am Post subject: |
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I voted good for convenience. They allow instant contact in emergencies, stores contact information, allow for facetime with family and friends when they're on the other side of the country, just to name a few goods.
Annoying for those who disregard others in public. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 9:43 am Post subject: |
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cell phones good, smart phones bad. The device itself is fine but what they are used for is not. The social dilemma breaks down the bad of social media and the 2 can not be separated.
TMI - when i drive my kid to school we point out kids walking with their heads buried in their phones at 730am and discuss how easy it would be to pull up snatch it and bounce. Obviously, worse can happen but the distraction alone makes them terrible. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:51 am Post subject: |
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^^^ They are a danger to kids walking and adults driving while texting. I almost his a young lady texting with her head down. She walked into the street without looking up. A friend was texting at a light. When the light turned green he started. The car in front of him suddenly stopped, he ran into the back of it. His insurance went through the roof. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Roger O. Thornhill Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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There are plenty of pros and cons to smartphones, but overall my gut tells me the bad outweighs the good from a broad, society-level POV. |
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Bol Star Player
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Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:40 am Post subject: |
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I have to say bad after spending the last few hours playing games on my phone. |
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C M B Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:29 am Post subject: |
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any updated opinions? _________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Even before the first iPhone, I was longing for a convergence device that would allow me to carry a single device that would replace the 3 or 4 I would carry.
I remember the days of carrying those brick sized Garmin GPS navigation devices, a cellphone, a portable music player, and a laptop for email whenever I traveled for work. That's all been consolidated into a single device that fits in my pocket.
I was an early adopter of the Palm Treo back in the early 2000s which was, I think, the first attempt at such a convergence device. It was built as a competitor to Blackberries but you could load Mapquest and a music player on it. The touchscreen was so small and you had to jab it really hard with the stylus. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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ribeye Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I have always said that if a subsequent superior creature evolves down the road and man becomes extinct, and a statute is made to reflect who was man, the statute would be a person with hand out, cell phone in hand, looking down on it.
(And by the way, though it matters little, I mostly only use a cell phone for music while I walk or for the camera feature. Texting and communication in general? Don't need it, never have--and I don't need X either.) _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo" |
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jonnybravo Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:46 am Post subject: |
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numero-ocho wrote: | Even before the first iPhone, I was longing for a convergence device that would allow me to carry a single device that would replace the 3 or 4 I would carry.
I remember the days of carrying those brick sized Garmin GPS navigation devices, a cellphone, a portable music player, and a laptop for email whenever I traveled for work. That's all been consolidated into a single device that fits in my pocket.
I was an early adopter of the Palm Treo back in the early 2000s which was, I think, the first attempt at such a convergence device. It was built as a competitor to Blackberries but you could load Mapquest and a music player on it. The touchscreen was so small and you had to jab it really hard with the stylus. |
Funny you bring up the Treo because I was going to mention that. There was an article reviewing the Treo back then and one of the designers was talking about the exact convergence you mentioned.
I think it's the camera and video quality that has gotten us to where we are now. Take those out and most of the complaints about them (the worse forms of social media like Tik Tok) are gone. _________________ KOBE |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:15 am Post subject: |
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A walking computer. I can read and post on LG all day and not be confined to a seat in front of a desktop computer. Only downer is spellcheck _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be
because we destroyed ourselves. |
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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jonnybravo wrote: | numero-ocho wrote: | Even before the first iPhone, I was longing for a convergence device that would allow me to carry a single device that would replace the 3 or 4 I would carry.
I remember the days of carrying those brick sized Garmin GPS navigation devices, a cellphone, a portable music player, and a laptop for email whenever I traveled for work. That's all been consolidated into a single device that fits in my pocket.
I was an early adopter of the Palm Treo back in the early 2000s which was, I think, the first attempt at such a convergence device. It was built as a competitor to Blackberries but you could load Mapquest and a music player on it. The touchscreen was so small and you had to jab it really hard with the stylus. |
Funny you bring up the Treo because I was going to mention that. There was an article reviewing the Treo back then and one of the designers was talking about the exact convergence you mentioned.
I think it's the camera and video quality that has gotten us to where we are now. Take those out and most of the complaints about them (the worse forms of social media like Tik Tok) are gone. |
I forgot about digital cameras. With all that crap to carry, it's a wonder the man-purse never caught on. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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