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| manlisten wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | levon wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Somebody finally mentioned DLO! Wow.
JJ-"He is probably guy I talked to the most" "Let's put you in a position to have a career year. His talk, mindset, energy are all in a great place"
If that's true why I haven't I heard him mention DLO once in all his interviews? |
Because he’s lying? |
I don't think he's lying. He said they want to work with DLo so he has a career year. I think it's pretty clear they've explicitly talked about the idea of him being traded and how DLo is trying to rebuild value. |
JJ has been interviewed plenty of times since taking the job. He has singled out every key player on the roster except for one. If we are to believe that the one player he hasn’t mentioned also happens to be the one he’s talked to the most and has big plans for then I’m sorry I don’t believe it. |
Strange hill to die on. |
I'm with Ocho. I have noticed JJ/Pelinka silence on DLO to be very strange. Now he's the one guy JJ has talked to the most? It doesn't add up but we are outsiders.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | levon wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Somebody finally mentioned DLO! Wow.
JJ-"He is probably guy I talked to the most" "Let's put you in a position to have a career year. His talk, mindset, energy are all in a great place"
If that's true why I haven't I heard him mention DLO once in all his interviews? |
Because he’s lying? |
I don't think he's lying. He said they want to work with DLo so he has a career year. I think it's pretty clear they've explicitly talked about the idea of him being traded and how DLo is trying to rebuild value. |
JJ has been interviewed plenty of times since taking the job. He has singled out every key player on the roster except for one. If we are to believe that the one player he hasn’t mentioned also happens to be the one he’s talked to the most and has big plans for then I’m sorry I don’t believe it. |
Strange hill to die on. |
I'm with Ocho. I have noticed JJ/Pelinka silence on DLO to be very strange. Now he's the one guy JJ has talked to the most? It doesn't add up but we are outsiders. |
It reminds me of when LeBron went back to Cleveland and in his SI piece announcing the move he suspiciously left out key names of Cavs players he was excited to play with and then it was a total coincidence that they were traded a few weeks later.
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| CandyCanes wrote: | | Ham seems like he might be a top tier assistant who wasn’t quite ready to be a head coach. But he seems to be thought highly of around the league. |
Redick has never coached at any level and wasn’t even thought about around the league. He might end up being good or he might end up being bad but for now some fans think that he will be the difference. Hope is undefeated.
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Pelinka was very actively looking to trade DLo and now JJ is talking up DLo so I'm getting mixed signals...lol. Maybe they're trying to build up DLo's value prior to the trade deadline but we all know he's a proven great warrior in the regular season already so there isn't much left to prove.
Bottom line is "we wanted to get rid of DLo but we couldn't so we'd have to work with him".
Seen this story before..."we wanted to get rid of Westbrick but we couldn't so we have no choice but to try to incorporate him into our offense."
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Ham seems like he might be a top tier assistant who wasn’t quite ready to be a head coach. But he seems to be thought highly of around the league. |
Redick has never coached at any level and wasn’t even thought about around the league. He might end up being good or he might end up being bad but for now some fans think that he will be the difference. Hope is undefeated. |
I actually think he might be too smart that he could turn off the players if he isn't careful. Being too smart is a good problem to have when the time comes for problem solving.
Ham was like a system coach where he could only coach what he learned so when an unexpected problem like "how do we defend Jokic" arose, he'd have no clue on how to solve it.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | Pelinka was very actively looking to trade DLo and now JJ is talking up DLo so I'm getting mixed signals...lol. Maybe they're trying to build up DLo's value prior to the trade deadline but we all know he's a proven great warrior in the regular season already so there isn't much left to prove.
Bottom line is "we wanted to get rid of DLo but we couldn't so we'd have to work with him".
Seen this story before..."we wanted to get rid of Westbrick but we couldn't so we have no choice but to try to incorporate him into our offense." |
Except they went into Westbrook’s final year here talking him up and constantly insisting he was a great player who was a crucial piece to their season (even as they moved him to the bench.) They didn’t spend the whole summer before pretending he didn’t exist. You can shop a guy without shunning him.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:01 am Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Ham seems like he might be a top tier assistant who wasn’t quite ready to be a head coach. But he seems to be thought highly of around the league. |
Redick has never coached at any level and wasn’t even thought about around the league. He might end up being good or he might end up being bad but for now some fans think that he will be the difference. Hope is undefeated. |
He also wasn’t the guy they wanted to hire. That isn’t to say he can’t be successful, but he was their second choice.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:26 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Ham seems like he might be a top tier assistant who wasn’t quite ready to be a head coach. But he seems to be thought highly of around the league. |
Redick has never coached at any level and wasn’t even thought about around the league. He might end up being good or he might end up being bad but for now some fans think that he will be the difference. Hope is undefeated. |
He also wasn’t the guy they wanted to hire. That isn’t to say he can’t be successful, but he was their second choice. |
Paul Westhead, Pat Riley & Frank Vogel have 6 combined "second choice" rings as Lakers HC.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Ham seems like he might be a top tier assistant who wasn’t quite ready to be a head coach. But he seems to be thought highly of around the league. |
Redick has never coached at any level and wasn’t even thought about around the league. He might end up being good or he might end up being bad but for now some fans think that he will be the difference. Hope is undefeated. |
He also wasn’t the guy they wanted to hire. That isn’t to say he can’t be successful, but he was their second choice. |
Paul Westhead, Pat Riley & Frank Vogel have 6 combined "second choice" rings as Lakers HC. |
Sure. Being the second choice doesn’t eliminate your chance to be successful. Just noting he wasn’t their guy. They wanted somebody else.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Ham seems like he might be a top tier assistant who wasn’t quite ready to be a head coach. But he seems to be thought highly of around the league. |
Redick has never coached at any level and wasn’t even thought about around the league. He might end up being good or he might end up being bad but for now some fans think that he will be the difference. Hope is undefeated. |
He also wasn’t the guy they wanted to hire. That isn’t to say he can’t be successful, but he was their second choice. |
Paul Westhead, Pat Riley & Frank Vogel have 6 combined "second choice" rings as Lakers HC. |
Sure. Being the second choice doesn’t eliminate your chance to be successful. Just noting he wasn’t their guy. They wanted somebody else. |
Every "their guy" after Phil has been terrible. Their best chance of success is accidental. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2024 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| levon wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | Ham seems like he might be a top tier assistant who wasn’t quite ready to be a head coach. But he seems to be thought highly of around the league. |
Redick has never coached at any level and wasn’t even thought about around the league. He might end up being good or he might end up being bad but for now some fans think that he will be the difference. Hope is undefeated. |
He also wasn’t the guy they wanted to hire. That isn’t to say he can’t be successful, but he was their second choice. |
Paul Westhead, Pat Riley & Frank Vogel have 6 combined "second choice" rings as Lakers HC. |
Sure. Being the second choice doesn’t eliminate your chance to be successful. Just noting he wasn’t their guy. They wanted somebody else. |
Every "their guy" after Phil has been terrible. Their best chance of success is accidental. |
What an indictment that is.
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| Brawn13 wrote: | So Vando did have procedures done and will be back sooner rather than later. Hope everyone from now on waits for the info to come in before you start slandering players.
One rumor gets posted about possibly not being ready to start the season and some in here were calling for Vandos head.
“He’s lazy!” “He’s pulling a Shaq!” “He doesn’t care about basketball!!” Smh |
I tried to tell everyone that MB was full of it and had no real updates. Was right as could be.
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| Speaking of DLO, if Ben Simmons comes back this year with a vengeance and has a good start to the season would you guys do a DLO for Simmons swap? maybe Nets add another asset like DFS or something but it’s a interesting thought |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Speaking of DLO, if Ben Simmons comes back this year with a vengeance and has a good start to the season would you guys do a DLO for Simmons swap? |
No and neither would you.
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lol this forum geezus. Are we seriously arguing about JJ talking to DLo over the summer? Put your tin foil hats away. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. All we have is what they tell us.
If JJ says he’s been talking to DLo then we should just take that for what it is unless confirmed info comes out stating otherwise.
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| MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Speaking of DLO, if Ben Simmons comes back this year with a vengeance and has a good start to the season would you guys do a DLO for Simmons swap? |
No and neither would you. |
I LOVE Simmons!
No way.
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Speaking of DLO, if Ben Simmons comes back this year with a vengeance and has a good start to the season would you guys do a DLO for Simmons swap? |
No and neither would you. |
I LOVE Simmons!
No way. |
Simmons has been in the lab. This is the year he finally breaks out, I'm telling you! |
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| Brawn13 wrote: | lol this forum geezus. Are we seriously arguing about JJ talking to DLo over the summer? Put your tin foil hats away. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. All we have is what they tell us.
If JJ says he’s been talking to DLo then we should just take that for what it is unless confirmed info comes out stating otherwise.
Lakers fans have 100 narratives playing out in their heads daily |
I don't know why JJ would boldly lie about something so unnecessary and easy to disprove. But everyone has their own way of thinking.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 5:21 am Post subject: |
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| manlisten wrote: | | Brawn13 wrote: | lol this forum geezus. Are we seriously arguing about JJ talking to DLo over the summer? Put your tin foil hats away. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. All we have is what they tell us.
If JJ says he’s been talking to DLo then we should just take that for what it is unless confirmed info comes out stating otherwise.
Lakers fans have 100 narratives playing out in their heads daily |
I don't know why JJ would boldly lie about something so unnecessary and easy to disprove. But everyone has their own way of thinking. |
What’s bold about it and how would you disprove it? You really think Redick thinks Russell will “have a major role” on this team? You truly believe he’s “thrilled” to coach him? I’m sure they’ve spoken since JJ got the job but if he hadn’t been asked a question about Russell directly it would have been another interview/press conference where he acts like he doesn’t exist. I just feel bad JJ had to keep all this excitement a secret all summer.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Brawn13 wrote: | lol this forum geezus. Are we seriously arguing about JJ talking to DLo over the summer? Put your tin foil hats away. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. All we have is what they tell us.
If JJ says he’s been talking to DLo then we should just take that for what it is unless confirmed info comes out stating otherwise.
Lakers fans have 100 narratives playing out in their heads daily |
I don't know why JJ would boldly lie about something so unnecessary and easy to disprove. But everyone has their own way of thinking. |
What’s bold about it and how would you disprove it? You really think Redick thinks Russell will “have a major role” on this team? You truly believe he’s “thrilled” to coach him? I’m sure they’ve spoken since JJ got the job but if he hadn’t been asked a question about Russell directly it would have been another interview/press conference where he acts like he doesn’t exist. I just feel bad JJ had to keep all this excitement a secret all summer. |
You don't think D'lo will ever be interviewed and asked about JJ? Or if D'lo corroborates the story you're gonna say he's lying too? Again, strange hill to die on. You think the Lakers and JJ never envisioned a scenario where they couldn't trade D'lo and he stays with the team and planned accordingly? You're doubling down on this theory for unknown reasons.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| manlisten wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Brawn13 wrote: | lol this forum geezus. Are we seriously arguing about JJ talking to DLo over the summer? Put your tin foil hats away. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. All we have is what they tell us.
If JJ says he’s been talking to DLo then we should just take that for what it is unless confirmed info comes out stating otherwise.
Lakers fans have 100 narratives playing out in their heads daily |
I don't know why JJ would boldly lie about something so unnecessary and easy to disprove. But everyone has their own way of thinking. |
What’s bold about it and how would you disprove it? You really think Redick thinks Russell will “have a major role” on this team? You truly believe he’s “thrilled” to coach him? I’m sure they’ve spoken since JJ got the job but if he hadn’t been asked a question about Russell directly it would have been another interview/press conference where he acts like he doesn’t exist. I just feel bad JJ had to keep all this excitement a secret all summer. |
You don't think D'lo will ever be interviewed and asked about JJ? Or if D'lo corroborates the story you're gonna say he's lying too? Again, strange hill to die on. You think the Lakers and JJ never envisioned a scenario where they couldn't trade D'lo and he stays with the team and planned accordingly? You're doubling down on this theory for unknown reasons. |
I’m sure if DLo is asked about it he will give a similarly political answer because that’s what people in these situations do. I don’t think they expect to finish the season with him on the roster which explains why they haven’t been mentioning him at all despite being our third best player. You’re trying to spin what I’m saying into some elaborate conspiracy when really it’s just a very observable fact that JJ has very noticeably not talked about him at all this summer including this press conference until he was asked about it specifically. Given they’ve already tried desperately to trade him and his status as an expiring contract it’s really not that difficult to see why. I’m not alone in observing this. They signed him to a contract that was designed to be traded. This is all fairly obvious stuff. It’s weird to pretend it’s not a thing.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2024 7:53 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Brawn13 wrote: | lol this forum geezus. Are we seriously arguing about JJ talking to DLo over the summer? Put your tin foil hats away. We don’t know what goes on behind the scenes. All we have is what they tell us.
If JJ says he’s been talking to DLo then we should just take that for what it is unless confirmed info comes out stating otherwise.
Lakers fans have 100 narratives playing out in their heads daily |
I don't know why JJ would boldly lie about something so unnecessary and easy to disprove. But everyone has their own way of thinking. |
What’s bold about it and how would you disprove it? You really think Redick thinks Russell will “have a major role” on this team? You truly believe he’s “thrilled” to coach him? I’m sure they’ve spoken since JJ got the job but if he hadn’t been asked a question about Russell directly it would have been another interview/press conference where he acts like he doesn’t exist. I just feel bad JJ had to keep all this excitement a secret all summer. |
You don't think D'lo will ever be interviewed and asked about JJ? Or if D'lo corroborates the story you're gonna say he's lying too? Again, strange hill to die on. You think the Lakers and JJ never envisioned a scenario where they couldn't trade D'lo and he stays with the team and planned accordingly? You're doubling down on this theory for unknown reasons. |
I’m sure if DLo is asked about it he will give a similarly political answer because that’s what people in these situations do. |
Lol
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