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Los Angeles Lakers @ Minnesota Timberwolves
Crypto Arena, Los Angeles, CA | Tues, Oct. 22, 2024 | 7:00 PM PT
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******* LET'S GO (82-0) LAKERS 
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I’m very nervous, if we go down by double digits early on, I might go bonkers  |
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lakersfever714
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1-0 for the eventual 82-0 and banner number 18. Go Lakers!!! 
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| Awww snippety snap snap! First of the season. Woot woooooot! |
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Denny_Russo
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Gonna be so weird not seeing KAT in Minny and his replacement Randle in a Minny uniform. I believe KG was the only one who stayed longer than him in Minny, but unlike KG, KAT had plenty of help over the years.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | Gonna be so weird not seeing KAT in Minny and his replacement Randle in a Minny uniform. I believe KG was the only one who stayed longer than him in Minny, but unlike KG, KAT had plenty of help over the years. |
The thing with Karl Anthony-Towns is that the Minny FO said last year that the only way they would keep the core was if they made a run to the Finals, it didn’t happen, they didn’t think it was worth it to keep the same core and pay the tax, I do think they gave up on him to soon but that’s why business decisions are sometimes tough. |
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LET'S GO LAKERS
ROAD TO #18 STARTS NOW |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | LET'S GO LAKERS
ROAD TO #18 STARTS NOW |
THIS |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:36 am Post subject: |
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| Randle always plays with a chip on his shoulder against us, get ready for him to bomb threes from everywhere like he is Larry Bird |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:40 am Post subject: |
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This will make or break my week. Lets get the win, so I don't have to walk around mad all week.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 6:47 am Post subject: |
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we are home, they have to integrate new players -we have 2 healthy 50 million dollar players and not a lot of turn over - we should win.
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Best case scenario would be us winning by 20+ in the 4th quarter.
Right when the T'Wolves empty their bench, we empty ours but we leave LeBron in when Bronny goes in. They play a minute of garbage time together, hopefully one assists to the other or something.
The moment happens, the crowd cheers, LeBron goes to the bench, Bronny finishes garbage time and then goes to the G-League for the rest of the season.
Everyone remains healthy.
THAT would be our best case scenario for Game 1.
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | Gonna be so weird not seeing KAT in Minny and his replacement Randle in a Minny uniform. I believe KG was the only one who stayed longer than him in Minny, but unlike KG, KAT had plenty of help over the years. |
The thing with Karl Anthony-Towns is that the Minny FO said last year that the only way they would keep the core was if they made a run to the Finals, it didn’t happen, they didn’t think it was worth it to keep the same core and pay the tax, I do think they gave up on him to soon but that’s why business decisions are sometimes tough. |
They actually were the closest to the finals they've been in 20 years, so for all intents and purposes it was a successful season for them. That they broke up a contending team prematurely shows that they weren't happy with something KAT was doing. They also have to pay Naz Reid so that might have been a factor as well. I think Randle could very well be a 2 year rental depending on how they do this season.
I think the Lakers have the advantage tomorrow. Wolves had offensive droughts with both KAT and Ant on the team, but they were still dangerous. Dante gives them a boost in three point shooting but I'm not sure if Randle can be the same #2 that KAT was. They don't exactly have a legitimate third option either unless Naz Reid or Jaden emerge as that guy.
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I think the TWolves got weaker with the trade, but I don't think it's enough for the Lakers to have surpassed them.
Their 2-way play will overwhelm the Lakers. The Lakers can't defend them while they can defend the Lakers. |
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Excited for the new headcoach. Can we get a 20+ point blowout win just to prove my point that we had a championship caliber team but didn't have a good HC? In JJ I trust!
Did we ever win by 20+ points last season btw? 
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Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix.
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| manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
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| Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO
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| I would love to know our W-L record on opening night games over the past 15 years it’s probably something like 2-15, we really need to set the tone this year, and get the JJ Redick era off to a good start |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
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| Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
this isn't a playoff game - hes tough - they are built old school - we should win this game but IMHO once they integrate IMHO they will be better -
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I feel like historically early season matchups against defensive-minded teams tend to be pretty rough. Execution will take a few weeks to get in good order, and perimeter shooting takes some time as well (especially for our group, who started last season historically bad from 3 and ended the season top 10). That said, I'd be surprised if Minnesota didn't get notably worse compared to last year as the season progresses. People seem to underestimate how KAT made that frontcourt fit work IMO. KAT scored 20+ppg on 15 shots per game. Randle hasn't taken that few shots since 2018, and that doesn't even capture the fact that he has been used as a hub on offense for years and tends to pout/get overly emotional when things don't go his way. It was an interesting choice to replace KAT with a higher usage guy. KAT hit nearly 42% from 3 last year, and Randle is a career 33% from 3. He also takes a fairly high volume for how mediocre he is. Minny will now be flanking Ant with 3 non-perimeter shooters in the starting lineup in McDaniels, Gobert and Randle. And Ant himself is just an average 3pt shooter. DDV helps, but he plays the same position as Ant, and neither of them really have PG skills. Defensively I think it severely underrates Towns to think that they won't get notably worse. Towns has never put up significant counting stats defensively, but he has been a pretty elite defensive big his entire career. I think at some point last season he and Gobert were the #1 and #2 ranked defensive centers in the league.
That means they had an elite defensive big on the floor basically 48 minutes a game last year. There will be some lineups this year with Reid and Randle and you're just not getting that same impact there. Randle gives you effort in a Westbrook type of way, but it's just nowhere near the same impact. Feels like eventually they will start to lean on Gobert/Reid lineups or move McDaniels up to the 4 (so they can play Ant, DDV and Conley) and push Randle to the bench. How long before he starts to pout after that? |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
this isn't a playoff game - hes tough - they are built old school - we should win this game but IMHO once they integrate IMHO they will be better - |
I think they win this game and they're the better team, but they're not championship contenders because I don't believe in Randle as a number 2. I don't care how "tough" he is, his play isn't a good compliment to a superstar. That toughness hasn't even made him a good defender.
They're still better than the Lakers despite that because Gobert, Reid, McDaniels, DDV, Conley >>>>>>>>>> AR, DLo, Rui and the rest. |
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| Atticus wrote: | I feel like historically early season matchups against defensive-minded teams tend to be pretty rough. Execution will take a few weeks to get in good order, and perimeter shooting takes some time as well (especially for our group, who started last season historically bad from 3 and ended the season top 10). That said, I'd be surprised if Minnesota didn't get notably worse compared to last year as the season progresses. People seem to underestimate how KAT made that frontcourt fit work IMO. KAT scored 20+ppg on 15 shots per game. Randle hasn't taken that few shots since 2018, and that doesn't even capture the fact that he has been used as a hub on offense for years and tends to pout/get overly emotional when things don't go his way. It was an interesting choice to replace KAT with a higher usage guy. KAT hit nearly 42% from 3 last year, and Randle is a career 33% from 3. He also takes a fairly high volume for how mediocre he is. Minny will now be flanking Ant with 3 non-perimeter shooters in the starting lineup in McDaniels, Gobert and Randle. And Ant himself is just an average 3pt shooter. DDV helps, but he plays the same position as Ant, and neither of them really have PG skills. Defensively I think it severely underrates Towns to think that they won't get notably worse. Towns has never put up significant counting stats defensively, but he has been a pretty elite defensive big his entire career. I think at some point last season he and Gobert were the #1 and #2 ranked defensive centers in the league.
That means they had an elite defensive big on the floor basically 48 minutes a game last year. There will be some lineups this year with Reid and Randle and you're just not getting that same impact there. Randle gives you effort in a Westbrook type of way, but it's just nowhere near the same impact. Feels like eventually they will start to lean on Gobert/Reid lineups or move McDaniels up to the 4 (so they can play Ant, DDV and Conley) and push Randle to the bench. How long before he starts to pout after that? |
I agree with everything except Towns is elite defensively. |
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Wolves beat Nuggets. Nuggets beat Lakers. Lakers beat Wolves.
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