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| Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
this isn't a playoff game - hes tough - they are built old school - we should win this game but IMHO once they integrate IMHO they will be better - |
I think they win this game and they're the better team, but they're not championship contenders because I don't believe in Randle as a number 2. I don't care how "tough" he is, his play isn't a good compliment to a superstar. That toughness hasn't even made him a good defender.
They're still better than the Lakers despite that because Gobert, Reid, McDaniels, DDV, Conley >>>>>>>>>> AR, DLo, Rui and the rest. |
I don't think JR will be there by end of season. - but wolves are surrounding Ant with defense and 3's -
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Well, the games count now. No more excuses.
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| Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
The thing with Randle is that he's a good regular season performer. He's the total opposite of Jimmy Butler, who doesn't care for the regular season but turns it up in the playoffs. He's also an all-NBA caliber power forward in the regular season (made 2 out 4 last all nba teams). Maybe it has to do with the fact that teams don't narrow in on him or consider him a threat until the playoffs, but I wouldn't sleep on him just yet. I think Finch is better than Thibs and maybe they'll figure out a suitable arrangement for him.
It's still crazy to me we lost him for nothing and then he got traded for KAT 5 years later. Our management blows. That's really the bigger story here.
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Halflife
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
The thing with Randle is that he's a good regular season performer. He's the total opposite of Jimmy Butler, who doesn't care for the regular season but turns it up in the playoffs. He's also an all-NBA caliber power forward in the regular season (made 2 out 4 last all nba teams). Maybe it has to do with the fact that teams don't narrow in on him or consider him a threat until the playoffs, but I wouldn't sleep on him just yet. I think Finch is better than Thibs and maybe they'll figure out a suitable arrangement for him.
It's still crazy to me we lost him for nothing and then he got traded for KAT 5 years later. Our management blows. That's really the bigger story here. |
I'm not talking playoffs -
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just reported Ken griffey Jr/Sr attending lakers game to watch bron and JR share the floor.
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Bronny and LeBron on the floor will be legendary 
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| defense wrote: | This will make or break my week. Lets get the win, so I don't have to walk around mad all week.
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Maaan! I sooo hope I’m wrong because I feel the same way about making or breaking my week…but…I predict our entire year will be broken, not just from this game but from most of them.
Again, I sure hope what I feel turns out differently than what I predict 😂
Not only did the front office fail to upgrade, they actually downgraded on paper by not replacing a vet contributor in Prince. Hopefully, Vincent/Vando turns out to work like an upgrade since they contributed close to nothing last season and Christie/Knecht turn expectation based on potential into actual consistent production. It would also help if Wood displays with the Lakers what he displayed at his other stops and Dlo/AR/Rui all up their game, of course the Lakers need AD/LBJ to stay available as well as most everyone else. A lot of hoping lol!
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| ThreePointBomber wrote: | | Bronny and LeBron on the floor will be legendary |
Literally a must win game. Otherwise, it would be a bad memory. lol
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| Wolves have continuity. There are just too many adults on that team, and they're one of the teams that can outmuscle us. Our best bet is Ant shooting them out of the game. |
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| ThreePointBomber wrote: | | Bronny and LeBron on the floor will be legendary |
Maybe for soap opera fans, not as much for basketball fans. If only Bronny could play at that level, then you have a story. The just shows the depths that the organization is dropping to.
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| levon wrote: | | Wolves have continuity. There are just too many adults on that team, and they're one of the teams that can outmuscle us. Our best bet is Ant shooting them out of the game. |
Randle/Ant/Gobert fit is clunky as hell. If Randle plays 35+ minutes I like our chances. |
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| levon wrote: | | Wolves have continuity. There are just too many adults on that team, and they're one of the teams that can outmuscle us. Our best bet is Ant shooting them out of the game. |
they have to get used to playing without their 1B- we have continuity - and 2 48m per year guys perfectly healthy at home - no way we should lose this game -
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| Lakeshow23_ wrote: | | levon wrote: | | Wolves have continuity. There are just too many adults on that team, and they're one of the teams that can outmuscle us. Our best bet is Ant shooting them out of the game. |
Randle/Ant/Gobert fit is clunky as hell. If Randle plays 35+ minutes I like our chances. |
Randle literally always kicks our ass. |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
The thing with Randle is that he's a good regular season performer. He's the total opposite of Jimmy Butler, who doesn't care for the regular season but turns it up in the playoffs. He's also an all-NBA caliber power forward in the regular season (made 2 out 4 last all nba teams). Maybe it has to do with the fact that teams don't narrow in on him or consider him a threat until the playoffs, but I wouldn't sleep on him just yet. I think Finch is better than Thibs and maybe they'll figure out a suitable arrangement for him.
It's still crazy to me we lost him for nothing and then he got traded for KAT 5 years later. Our management blows. That's really the bigger story here. |
I'm not talking playoffs - |
I was responding to someone else. I'm saying Randle, for all the criticism levied against him, is an all NBA level baller (or close to it) in the regular season. Of course that could change with the Wolves, but we'll see. He is the most accomplished out of our ex Lakers.
Do I think the wolves are a tier below who they were last season? Yes but they not to be underestimated. All the Lakers need to do is keep it within striking distance until the last 7-8 minutes. All it takes is one offensive drought in the 4th quarter for the game to be winnable.
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
The thing with Randle is that he's a good regular season performer. He's the total opposite of Jimmy Butler, who doesn't care for the regular season but turns it up in the playoffs. He's also an all-NBA caliber power forward in the regular season (made 2 out 4 last all nba teams). Maybe it has to do with the fact that teams don't narrow in on him or consider him a threat until the playoffs, but I wouldn't sleep on him just yet. I think Finch is better than Thibs and maybe they'll figure out a suitable arrangement for him.
It's still crazy to me we lost him for nothing and then he got traded for KAT 5 years later. Our management blows. That's really the bigger story here. |
I'm not talking playoffs - |
I was responding to someone else. I'm saying Randle, for all the criticism levied against him, is an all NBA level baller in the regular season. Of course that could change with the Wolves, but we'll see. He is the most accomplished out of our ex Lakers. |
plus he wants a new contract/extension.
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| ThreePointBomber wrote: | | Bronny and LeBron on the floor will be legendary |
So who knows if this is JJ being coy the way Ham used to do all the time which drove me crazy, or if they really don't know. I'm gonna be honest that I don't really care but it'll obviously happen at some point this season. It would be preferable to me if it's early in the season to get it over with and then once the G league starts send Bronny to the G league so he can start to develop as a player. Then if he comes back later in the year or whatever then you know whatever... fine.... |
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
The thing with Randle is that he's a good regular season performer. He's the total opposite of Jimmy Butler, who doesn't care for the regular season but turns it up in the playoffs. He's also an all-NBA caliber power forward in the regular season (made 2 out 4 last all nba teams). Maybe it has to do with the fact that teams don't narrow in on him or consider him a threat until the playoffs, but I wouldn't sleep on him just yet. I think Finch is better than Thibs and maybe they'll figure out a suitable arrangement for him.
It's still crazy to me we lost him for nothing and then he got traded for KAT 5 years later. Our management blows. That's really the bigger story here. |
I'm not talking playoffs - |
I was responding to someone else. I'm saying Randle, for all the criticism levied against him, is an all NBA level baller (or close to it) in the regular season. Of course that could change with the Wolves, but we'll see. He is the most accomplished out of our ex Lakers.
Do I think the wolves are a tier below who they were last season? Yes but they not to be underestimated. All the Lakers need to do is keep it within striking distance until the last 7-8 minutes. All it takes is one offensive drought in the 4th quarter for the game to be winnable. |
I wouldn't have given those all-NBA appearances to him. He's a pretty inefficient, over-aggressive, attacking player. Those awards are usually just given to players on teams with great records, and the Knicks have overachieved in the years as a regular season team.
I don't think Randle has ever actually been above "all-star in a good year" level, same as Ingram. |
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| Japago wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Japago wrote: | | manlisten wrote: | | Wolves are a legit championship contender with the best defense in the league last season. Edwards should have a field day against this backcourt. I'm expecting a loss with a bounce back game against Phoenix. |
I think they just slipped out of the top tier with Randle now as their 2nd option. The guy is just an awful fit playing next to another star, especially one that's as ball-dominant as ANT is.
They might be alone in their own tier: Just below the contenders, but better than teams fighting to make the playoffs like the Lakers. |
I disagree - KAT was called a kitty kat for a reason - they got tougher - they are gritty team - If Ant is a better version of himself they got better. IMHO |
Have you seen Randle's playoff numbers? Absolutely pitiful.
He's at his best dominating the ball with free reign to do what he wants. He's never been a great complimentary player. And, he'll have issues doing that with ANT(or any other superstar player).
He's one of those players that's destined to carry bad teams to mediocrity.
Plus, he's an inconsistent shooter. Gobert, him, and McDaniels are going to make for some awful floor spacing. |
The thing with Randle is that he's a good regular season performer. He's the total opposite of Jimmy Butler, who doesn't care for the regular season but turns it up in the playoffs. He's also an all-NBA caliber power forward in the regular season (made 2 out 4 last all nba teams). Maybe it has to do with the fact that teams don't narrow in on him or consider him a threat until the playoffs, but I wouldn't sleep on him just yet. I think Finch is better than Thibs and maybe they'll figure out a suitable arrangement for him.
It's still crazy to me we lost him for nothing and then he got traded for KAT 5 years later. Our management blows. That's really the bigger story here. |
I'm not talking playoffs - |
I was responding to someone else. I'm saying Randle, for all the criticism levied against him, is an all NBA level baller (or close to it) in the regular season. Of course that could change with the Wolves, but we'll see. He is the most accomplished out of our ex Lakers.
Do I think the wolves are a tier below who they were last season? Yes but they not to be underestimated. All the Lakers need to do is keep it within striking distance until the last 7-8 minutes. All it takes is one offensive drought in the 4th quarter for the game to be winnable. |
I wouldn't have given those all-NBA appearances to him. He's a pretty inefficient, over-aggressive, attacking player. Those awards are usually just given to players on teams with great records, and the Knicks have overachieved in the years as a regular season team.
I don't think Randle has ever actually been above "all-star in a good year" level, same as Ingram. |
Randle should be benched for Reid |
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| I think the TWolves are way better than the Lakers. I think they win easily. Dumping Towns IMO was a good move. Naz Reid is better for them and Randle can help provide consistent scoring in the paint rather than living and dying by Towns floating around the perimeter. Then you still got a very good defensive core, ANT should continue to ascend. I think the TWolves are a top 5 team in the NBA. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I would love to know our W-L record on opening night games over the past 15 years it’s probably something like 2-15, we really need to set the tone this year, and get the JJ Redick era off to a good start |
I can answer this because yesterday I checked the opening night record since I became a fan in the 2005-2006 season.
Since 2005-2006 we are 7-12. We haven't won on opening night since 2016 and a lot of the wins were in the Kobe championship window.
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2005-2006 W
2006-2007 W
2007-2008 L
2008-2009 W
2009-2010 W
2010-2011 W
2011-2012 L
2012-2013 L
2013-2014 W
2014-2015 L
2015-2016 L
2016-2017 W
2017-2018 L
2018-2019 L
2019-2020 L
2020-2021 L
2021-2022 L
2022-2023 L
2023-2024 L
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