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nevitt_smrek Star Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. _________________ Smrek 2, Nevitt 1, Barkley 0 |
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Koalita Starting Rotation

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Obviously Rob being friends with Nico played a major part, it's not like Mav's GM is going to do this trade with someone who he is not close enough to know it will be kept secret until the trigger is pulled.
Tbh that does not give that much credit to Rob, but still some credit should be given as we only gave up a FRP.
What I also think is that even if he did little in previous years, that sort of put us in this position as well. Instead of shopping desperately when everyone else knew we were on LBJ's clock, he did "nothing", and sometimes that is hard. To refuse to accept other team's bad deals when there's pressure for him to "do something", it's not easy.
As others pointed out, as of now this is a great move for the next 10 years, but this season is still playing and it'd be great if something else happens without risking our future. |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Koalita wrote: | Obviously Rob being friends with Nico played a major part, it's not like Mav's GM is going to do this trade with someone who he is not close enough to know it will be kept secret until the trigger is pulled.
Tbh that does not give that much credit to Rob, but still some credit should be given as we only gave up a FRP.
What I also think is that even if he did little in previous years, that sort of put us in this position as well. Instead of shopping desperately when everyone else knew we were on LBJ's clock, he did "nothing", and sometimes that is hard. To refuse to accept other team's bad deals when there's pressure for him to "do something", it's not easy.
As others pointed out, as of now this is a great move for the next 10 years, but this season is still playing and it'd be great if something else happens without risking our future. |
-Networking is a very important skill in this industry
-I am sure the mavs asked for more, at least the additional pick, but rob probably did his job. |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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nevitt_smrek wrote: | 999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. |
Probably hard when your top 2 players invited WB to their house before the trade. He was going for something else, but either way, that was his stain |
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strong9 Star Player


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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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TMG wrote: | lar9149 wrote: | TMG wrote: | I hope this is a joke. Rob was gifted this by the idiot GM Nico.
He did nothing but make the obvious deal.
No faith in this dude building a team. |
I heard that he is friends with Nico, the Mavs GM, so maybe it is possible his "inside" connection helped? |
I'd say the reports of Doncic not wanting to resign and looking to play in LA is what contributed to that.
Rob gets no credit for me. I give him credit for the DFS trade.
This one? Nope it was giftwrapped. Nico should be put in prison for what he did
Im not sold on this guy as a GM. |
Where are these reports? One thing that does seem clear is that Luka wanted to stay. |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player


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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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mad55557777 wrote: | nevitt_smrek wrote: | 999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. |
Probably hard when your top 2 players invited WB to their house before the trade. He was going for something else, but either way, that was his stain |
Pelinka swings for the fences, sometimes he strikes out. Sometimes he hits the walk of grand slam in the world series, Freddy Freeman style  |
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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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He did such a good job saying "yes, yes I will take Luka" _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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miggz23 Star Player

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lakersfan8 Star Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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mad55557777 wrote: | nevitt_smrek wrote: | 999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. |
Probably hard when your top 2 players invited WB to their house before the trade. He was going for something else, but either way, that was his stain |
Trading for RW is one thing. Gave away FRP and decided to keep another non-shooter ball handler THT showed how clueless he was on player evaluation and team building |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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lakersfan8 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | nevitt_smrek wrote: | 999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. |
Probably hard when your top 2 players invited WB to their house before the trade. He was going for something else, but either way, that was his stain |
Trading for RW is one thing. Gave away FRP and decided to keep another non-shooter ball handler THT showed how clueless he was on player evaluation and team building |
If you are going to blame him for bad player evaluation. What about AR/max/DK?
If Jeanie shelled out more money, we could’ve kept both AC and THT(by the way, who found AC?) |
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Lucky_Shot Star Player


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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:19 pm Post subject: |
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He convinced the dude that no one else in the world needed to know about this, talked to him for weeks on end and closed the (bleep) deal and got it across the finish line.
He is the ultimate closer. He literally landed the biggest 25 and under superstar in the NBA
His nerves must have been on pins and needles the last few weeks trying to get this closed before it was just another coulda shoulda woulda story on ESPN 10 years later.
People love tear down and belittle the accomplishment of others |
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strong9 Star Player


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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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TMG wrote: | lar9149 wrote: | TMG wrote: | I hope this is a joke. Rob was gifted this by the idiot GM Nico.
He did nothing but make the obvious deal.
No faith in this dude building a team. |
I heard that he is friends with Nico, the Mavs GM, so maybe it is possible his "inside" connection helped? |
I'd say the reports of Doncic not wanting to resign and looking to play in LA is what contributed to that.
Rob gets no credit for me. I give him credit for the DFS trade.
This one? Nope it was giftwrapped. Nico should be put in prison for what he did
Im not sold on this guy as a GM. |
Where are these reports? One thing that does seem clear is that Luka wanted to stay. |
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Snipes Star Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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Rob has gotten better at his job. |
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drae Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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strong9 wrote: | TMG wrote: | lar9149 wrote: | TMG wrote: | I hope this is a joke. Rob was gifted this by the idiot GM Nico.
He did nothing but make the obvious deal.
No faith in this dude building a team. |
I heard that he is friends with Nico, the Mavs GM, so maybe it is possible his "inside" connection helped? |
I'd say the reports of Doncic not wanting to resign and looking to play in LA is what contributed to that.
Rob gets no credit for me. I give him credit for the DFS trade.
This one? Nope it was giftwrapped. Nico should be put in prison for what he did
Im not sold on this guy as a GM. |
Where are these reports? One thing that does seem clear is that Luka wanted to stay. |
Yeah, European stars it seems very rarely abandons their club. They all pretty much stay |
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lakersfan8 Star Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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mad55557777 wrote: | lakersfan8 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | nevitt_smrek wrote: | 999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. |
Probably hard when your top 2 players invited WB to their house before the trade. He was going for something else, but either way, that was his stain |
Trading for RW is one thing. Gave away FRP and decided to keep another non-shooter ball handler THT showed how clueless he was on player evaluation and team building |
If you are going to blame him for bad player evaluation. What about AR/max/DK?
If Jeanie shelled out more money, we could’ve kept both AC and THT(by the way, who found AC?) |
Yea but he probably knew he could not retain both players and between THT and AC, he chose THT who was obviously the terrible fit.
The player evaluation I was referring to was about a player’s actual or perceived value. He gave away players with positive values (KCP, Kuzma) for RW. For salary purpose, there’s no way around it, I understand. But did AD and LeBron told him to attach a FRP in the deal? |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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lakersfan8 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | lakersfan8 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | nevitt_smrek wrote: | 999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. |
Probably hard when your top 2 players invited WB to their house before the trade. He was going for something else, but either way, that was his stain |
Trading for RW is one thing. Gave away FRP and decided to keep another non-shooter ball handler THT showed how clueless he was on player evaluation and team building |
If you are going to blame him for bad player evaluation. What about AR/max/DK?
If Jeanie shelled out more money, we could’ve kept both AC and THT(by the way, who found AC?) |
Yea but he probably knew he could not retain both players and between THT and AC, he chose THT who was obviously the terrible fit.
The player evaluation I was referring to was about a player’s actual or perceived value. He gave away players with positive values (KCP, Kuzma) for RW. For salary purpose, there’s no way around it, I understand. But did AD and LeBron told him to attach a FRP in the deal? |
I am sure the wizards told him to. It was 2 second round picks(yes, they gave us 2 2nd rounds)for our 1st(22nd), not great, not horrible either.
KCP and Kuzma were both horrible in 2021, even worse in the playoffs.
Regarding THT, I am pretty sure most of LG were very happy with his development at the time, we were pissed that Jeanie couldn’t pay the tax and kept AC at the same time. Obviously if you look back now, it was a horrible move. |
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lakersfan8 Star Player

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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:03 am Post subject: |
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mad55557777 wrote: | lakersfan8 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | lakersfan8 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | nevitt_smrek wrote: | 999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. |
Probably hard when your top 2 players invited WB to their house before the trade. He was going for something else, but either way, that was his stain |
Trading for RW is one thing. Gave away FRP and decided to keep another non-shooter ball handler THT showed how clueless he was on player evaluation and team building |
If you are going to blame him for bad player evaluation. What about AR/max/DK?
If Jeanie shelled out more money, we could’ve kept both AC and THT(by the way, who found AC?) |
Yea but he probably knew he could not retain both players and between THT and AC, he chose THT who was obviously the terrible fit.
The player evaluation I was referring to was about a player’s actual or perceived value. He gave away players with positive values (KCP, Kuzma) for RW. For salary purpose, there’s no way around it, I understand. But did AD and LeBron told him to attach a FRP in the deal? |
I am sure the wizards told him to. It was 2 second round picks(yes, they gave us 2 2nd rounds)for our 1st(22nd), not great, not horrible either.
KCP and Kuzma were both horrible in 2021, even worse in the playoffs.
Regarding THT, I am pretty sure most of LG were very happy with his development at the time, we were pissed that Jeanie couldn’t pay the tax and kept AC at the same time. Obviously if you look back now, it was a horrible move. |
The thought of KCP and Kuzma were horrible in 2021 so we had to give FRP for RW is exactly what I said about poor player evaluation.
And don’t get me wrong, I was happy about THT’s development but as soon as I learned we were getting RW, I knew THT should not be on the team. They should either gave the money to Caruso or traded him when his value was high. Pelinka did neither of them. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 12:39 am Post subject: |
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You've been criticizing Pelinka for years because he can't build good relationships with anyone in the league's GM team, and therefore can't make good trades.
And now you're saying that he didn't actually play much of a role in this trade because he built good relationships.
You should be ashamed of yourself for criticizing Pelinka even today. It shouldn't be this hard to admit that you were wrong.
God, most of you were willing to trade Kessler for 2 first round picks. |
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Koalita Starting Rotation

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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:07 am Post subject: |
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I kinda understand why you keep THT and trade AC, I would expect someone 6years younger to be able to pick something from RW and get better and be able to flip him for something else. That obviously failed, but it had some merits. AC potential was nowhere near THT potential at the time, even if we needed AC's defense, you always try to keep the highest ammount of chips....
I still wonder what would have made this trade 'fair'? How many FRP's are we talking about?
Anyway, I feel Rob should have told Nico something along the "If you get AD with 3 FRPs, he will feel less valued and your chances of getting a championship will diminish!"
I'm so happy right now
Let's see if something else happens before the deadline <3 |
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Sometimes it’s all about who you know that can make or break a GM.
Mitch wouldn’t have gotten Pau Gasol gift wrapped to him without collusion from Jerry West. What’s another tiny collusion with Nico?  _________________ LUKA FREAKING DONCIC WHAT IS THIS TIMELINE?!
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LakerSanity wrote: | He did such a good job saying "yes, yes I will take Luka" |
‘But only if we swap Reaves for Christie and JHS. Oh, I need you to also add a second round pick. Man, u got me good Nico.’ _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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markjay Star Player

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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:01 am Post subject: |
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lakersfan8 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | lakersfan8 wrote: | mad55557777 wrote: | nevitt_smrek wrote: | 999 wrote: | Got Luka for one pick.
I apologize Rob. Didn’t know you had it in you. |
But he couldn't find a way to reject the WB idea. |
Probably hard when your top 2 players invited WB to their house before the trade. He was going for something else, but either way, that was his stain |
Trading for RW is one thing. Gave away FRP and decided to keep another non-shooter ball handler THT showed how clueless he was on player evaluation and team building |
If you are going to blame him for bad player evaluation. What about AR/max/DK?
If Jeanie shelled out more money, we could’ve kept both AC and THT(by the way, who found AC?) |
Yea but he probably knew he could not retain both players and between THT and AC, he chose THT who was obviously the terrible fit.
The player evaluation I was referring to was about a player’s actual or perceived value. He gave away players with positive values (KCP, Kuzma) for RW. For salary purpose, there’s no way around it, I understand. But did AD and LeBron told him to attach a FRP in the deal? |
I've always suspected it was a pincer movement — LeBron and AD from below and Jeannie then weighing in from above. So yes, Pelinka could have said no to LeBron and AD, but he couldn’t say no to Jeannie.
That's the most logical explanation to me because it's hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that Pelonka actually wanted to trade for Westbrook. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 9:57 am Post subject: |
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Lol @ people saying all Rob did was say yes.
It’s clear him and Nico have had dialogue for a long time. (Past month?) also have had a relationship for years.
The way he worked that into getting Luka and not giving up much needs to be commended. One thing is for certain, Rob is an elite negotiator.
You can’t discredit him when you want and then also not give him credit when he pulls something off. It’s unfair. Rob was absolutely brilliant on this deal, he saved the franchise and also sent AD somewhere where his talent won’t be wasted the next 2 years as Bron fades away.
If Rob is somehow able to get out of Bron now for a solid piece and is able to get him to waive his NTC..he will have 100% earned an extension. |
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LMAO.
999 with the title change! Love it. _________________ KOBE |
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