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ChickenStu
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | ^^^
I wonder if that takes into account bonuses, incentives and arbitration.
Phillies aren’t the team that comes to mind when thinking of which team added the most to their payroll from last year. |
In looking at their cap sheet from 2024 to 2025, it appears that the majority of this is from Zach Wheeler's extension kicking in. Last year he made $23.5MM, but in 2025 that bumps up to a whopping $42MM, which will also be his AAV in 2026 and 2027. Ranger Suarez and Alec Bohm's arbitration increases totaled about $7.5MM, as well. (They did lose the contracts of Carlos Estevez and Jeff Hoffman.) |
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LongBeachPoly
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Interesting. I always thought that extensions raise the CBT number to the new AAV:
| Quote: | Dodgers 2024 payroll after Tyler Glasnow trade & contract extension
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Glasnow had one-year and $25 million remaining on his two-year contract signed with Tampa Bay during the 2022 season.
Had the trade happened without the extension, the contract would have counted as $25 million toward the Dodgers’ competitive balance tax, as any multi-year contract traded between seasons is recalculated to reflect the remainder of the deal.
The new deal amounts to $136.5 million over five years, an average of $27.3 million per year. That includes a 2028 player option at $21.5625 million — which is delined would give the Dodgers a $30 million club option — which is treated as another guaranteed year when determining payroll for CBT purposes.
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| Quote: | Tyler Glasnow
Actual payroll:$25,000,000
CBT payroll: $27,312,500
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Glasnow got his extension around Dec 15, 2023.
Wheeler got his extension on Mar 4, 2024.
So only thing I can think of is that Wheeler got his extension AFTER the 2024 season officially began (~Feb 15, 2024), so they calculated the CBT based on his previous contract and they don’t take into account the new extension.
The Phillies probably waited until after the season began to extend him for this reason.
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Edit: found this:
Glasnow’s extension called for him to get a $10M signing bonus right away.
So I guess his extension “kicked in” in 2024 and thus changed his CBT number. Wheeler’s extension didn’t kick in until 2025. |
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ChickenStu
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Yep. And this is why there's been some talk that Philly could try to move Bohm or, in a lesser scenario, Castellanos, because the latter is owed $20MM and is barely above a league-average hitter in terms of wRC. As Bohm is quite a bit cheaper and had a 115 wRC last year (100 is average), he could generate some interest, but it's also worth noting that Bohm was absolutely terrible last season after a torrid first few weeks of the season. I'm sure they would love to dump Taijuan Walker's $18MM, too, but that's probably an even longer shot. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | One of the Dodgers' top signings this international period was supposed to be Dominican SS Darell Morel, and we've lost him to the Pirates. So I guess you can say the Sasaki decision has already had some effects, but in this case, it has worked out for Morel. He was expected to receive about 900K from us, but he's now going to get $1.8MM from the Pirates. Good for him. |
Almost like there's risk involved in dumping your pool into one player. |
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LongBeachPoly
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Found this gem on Dodgers' reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Dodgers/comments/1i042oh/shohei_ohtani_speaks_2024_trials_decisions_and/
| Quote: | Shohei Ohtani Speaks: 2024 - Trials, Decisions, and the Journey to the Top- (This turned out to be an incredibly long translation, so I think it’s best to read it when you have some time.)
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20241230/k10014679321000.html
Shohei Ohtani Reflects on His First World Series Victory in an Exclusive NHK Interview
After achieving his first-ever World Series title, Shohei Ohtani once again sat down for an NHK interview this year.
In 2024, following surgery on his right elbow last year, Ohtani focused solely on his role as a designated batter. He spoke in depth about the countless trials and decisions he faced behind the scenes of his remarkable achievements, as well as the journey that led him to the pinnacle of success.
For approximately 45 minutes, the NHK Special interview team engaged with Ohtani, capturing his reflections in his own words. Here, we present the full account of their conversation.
(Reported by Shuta Yamamoto, NHK Sports News Division)
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Q: “Wait, is that his hair…?”
| Quote: | | With a cheerful “Please take care of me,” Shohei Ohtani appeared at the interview location, dressed casually and exuding confidence. |
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As he took a seat and glanced around at the cameras prepared for him, our team was immediately caught off guard—his hair in the back was sticking straight up.
Honestly, it was pretty noticeable.Gathering my courage, I pointed it out.
| Quote: | Ohtani smiled and said, “It’s fine, no worries.”
“I just came from rehab, so I’ve been lying down the whole time,” he added sheepishly. |
I walked behind him and tried to flatten his hair, but the stubborn cowlick refused to stay down.
In the end, I had to use a bit of the mineral water we had on hand to smooth it out—though, even then, it started to pop back up a little.
This year’s interview began with a lighthearted and laughable little mishap. |
| Quote: | Q: Is your left arm, which was dislocated, okay even when you’re not using the support device to hang it?
| Quote: | “When I go for walks with my dog, Decoy, I wear it, but when I’m sitting like this, I take it off completely. For walks, I either take him to the dog park or let him run around at home.”
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| Quote: | Q: After battling through such an amazing season, how do you look back on this year?
| Quote: | | “Well, it feels like it was a long year, yes. The last month, especially, really affects the overall impression of the season. The feeling of whether it’s the end or not makes a big difference in how you perceive the length of the season. Even now, after it’s over, it feels like the next season or the next spring training will be here before I know it. So, I think the sense of time is a little different now.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Was the last month physically really tough for you?
| Quote: | | “As for the last month in terms of the postseason, I’m not sure. It was my first time, so looking back, it feels like it was long. But during it, I didn’t really think about that. It was more about each game, one at a time. There were a lot of games that were different from the regular season, so I don’t think I had the luxury of thinking about it while I was playing.” |
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| Quote: | Q: In a season where you knew you would only be playing as a batter, did you set any initial goals?
| Quote: | | “I didn’t have any specific goals, well, saying I didn’t have any goals might sound odd, but it was hard to set them. Of course, my goal was to play in a certain number of games. But how much I would be able to play while rehabbing and adjusting to a new team in my first year, I thought I’d figure it out as I went along. In terms of being able to play consistently throughout the year, I think it was a good season, especially considering I was able to play while managing my rehab on one side.” |
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| Quote: | Q: How do you feel about the numbers you recorded this season? I was really impressed by your 59 stolen bases.
| Quote: | | “Of course, I’m happy with the numbers, yes. As for batting stats, I’ve had higher ones in other years with different numbers, so I’m not sure how the 59 stolen bases compare to those. But I’ve always wanted to run, so I’m glad I was able to do that. Overall, I think it was good.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Looking at the numbers by month, you stole 43 bases after July. You really piled them up in the second half of the season. After settling into the leadoff spot, did your awareness of stolen bases increase?
| Quote: | “Well, there was a period where my legs weren’t feeling great, so before I started running, there weren’t many situations or opportunities for stolen bases. There was about a month where I didn’t really have a chance to try. So, I think in the first half of the season, I didn’t have many opportunities.
Around May, about a month or so after the season started, my condition wasn’t great. Even if I tried to steal, I probably wouldn’t have been able to run at full speed, so I didn’t think it would be successful, and I didn’t attempt many.
I often feel discomfort in my hamstring, and when that happens, it tends to last a bit longer.” |
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| Quote: | Q: In August, your batting average dropped a bit, but you turned it around with an incredible performance in September. Last year, you mentioned that “grasping the key moment is quick.” Was there a similar moment for you this year?
| Quote: | “In August, I think it was just bad luck. Yeah, I just didn’t have luck on my side. Even when I hit the ball hard, it didn’t turn into hits, especially with ground balls to the infield.
On the other hand, September was a month where my luck was really good, so the numbers were just better. I think the ability to hit the ball hard and the contact rate are the most important factors when it comes to being in good form.
I think the numbers were worse in August, but it really comes down to bad luck. On the other hand, the balls that did turn into home runs in August were still home runs, but the other hits that should have been extra-base hits were often caught. Well, the shifts in the field played a part too. But I think I was just hitting a lot of balls that were caught, which is why the numbers didn’t improve much in August.” |
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| Quote: | Q: In September, you mentioned that “you could see the future of your batting quality.” What parts of your game do you feel you grew in or grasped this year?
| Quote: | “At the end, it was good. I mean, something new came out, and it was interesting in terms of my batting, so I’m glad I ended on that note.
I think that part was good. But it’s not about which one is the best; having many options in your toolbox is an important trait for a good hitter. I think there were many at-bats this year that will contribute to my career moving forward.” |
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| Quote: | Q: And how do you reflect on experiencing the “nerve-wracking September” you mentioned in 2021 this year?
| Quote: | “It was just really fun. We won the division and had the best winning percentage, and we were also ranked first in Major League Baseball, but it wasn’t as easy as I expected.
Of course, my teammates were amazing, and we had great battles, but in each game, there were a lot of come-from-behind wins. Even when we won, there weren’t that many games where we could win easily.
The Padres were catching up from behind, and the game difference was closing, so we were being chased. From the outside, it probably looked easier, but I think there were a lot of intense games.” |
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| Quote: | Q: In terms of motivation, I imagine it was a September you had never experienced before. How did you feel about that aspect?
| Quote: | | “Yeah, that’s right. Even when we were losing, it was frustrating, of course. But there was always the motivation to perform well on the field, no matter what. It’s a different kind of motivation. But when it comes to winning, there’s definitely a higher level of motivation to win the division, win the league, and have the best winning percentage, all while looking ahead to the postseason. Everyone is aiming for that. So, in that sense, it was definitely a special month. The last month, especially, was really special.” |
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| Quote: | Q: In that sense, what stands out as unforgettable is undoubtedly the game-tying three-run home run in Game 1 of the Division Series against the Padres. The game started off tough, with the Padres quickly taking a 3-0 lead in the first inning at your home stadium.
| Quote: | | “Yeah. Looking back, the Padres were really strong, a great team. That first game was important, and for me, it was my first postseason game. Being able to hit in that situation, even now, I think it was a great at-bat. It also helped set the tone for the game. It’s definitely an at-bat I’ll remember.” |
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| Quote: | Q: I think it was a hit that inspired the team, but was it the result you were hoping for?
| Quote: | “Of course, there was no intention to tie the game with one swing. It was still early in the game, and there were runners on first and second. A hit that scores a run and puts runners on first and third would have been fine. A double to score two runs would have been fine, or even a walk to load the bases. The most important thing in a short series is to keep the momentum going. In the end, it turned out to be the best possible result, but I think that mindset, the one shared by the two guys who got on base ahead of me, was key to it all coming together.”
“The Winning Dodgers” |
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| Quote: | Q: This year, there were many moments when you were seen talking with your teammates in the dugout. Is that part of the Dodgers’ culture?
| Quote: | | “Well, I think every team has its own culture. Each team has its own vibe, and there are always team leaders. But with us, we have a lot of experienced players, so each person plays their role while also focusing on team batting. There are a lot of situations where we commit to winning and stay focused on that. Since I was only on the offensive side this year, I can say that the offensive players I worked with were definitely committed to that mindset.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Did your impression of the Dodgers, which you had from the outside until last year, change after you joined the team this year?
| Quote: | | “It’s different, definitely. Of course, the talent and the great players are part of it, but from the outside, it looks like it’s just a matter of sheer talent. You might think it’s all about having good players, but once you’re inside, you realize it’s not just that. In fact, it’s more about the other aspects. I think that’s what makes a team that consistently wins different.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Overall, the postseason, of course, all teams were strong, but what was your impression of actually facing them?
| Quote: | | “Since there wasn’t a Padres vs. Yankees or Mets vs. Yankees matchup, I don’t think it’s possible to rank them. However, the fact that we were pushed to the limit is undeniable, and looking at the scores, I think everyone felt that the Padres series was the toughest for the team, and we were really stretched to our limits.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Have you been seeking that kind of battle over the past seven years?
| Quote: | | “I have been, and when we went to San Diego, the atmosphere was incredible. Of course, it’s great to go there during the season, but San Diego is really something special. However, the atmosphere in the stadium, which felt a bit tense and intense, was something truly unique.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Are you saying, “I want to experience this for another 9 years”?
| Quote: | | “Yes, that’s right. Of course, I’d be happy to keep playing every year until the end, and I’m working hard to make that happen. Yes, I plan to return as a pitcher next year, so I want to keep pushing forward, including that.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Now, let’s talk about the dislocated left shoulder in the World Series. Had you ever experienced a dislocation before?
| Quote: | | “No, it was my first time.” |
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| Quote: | Q: (Looking at footage from that time on a tablet) Reflecting on it now, do you have any technical reflections?
| Quote: | | “Of course, there are reflections, including on my baserunning. The jump (reaction at the start) wasn’t really that good. Since there were two outs, in a way, it was okay to get out, but I was trying to get into scoring position. With Teoscar Hernández at bat, that was the team’s approach in that situation. Ideally, getting safe would have been the best, but I thought it was a time to take a risk. I think my jump wasn’t as good as it should have been.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Did you feel any sense of urgency?
| Quote: | | “I thought it was about 50/50. The throw from the catcher was right on target, so when it came, I thought I was probably going to be out. But I slid while trying to avoid it, and at that moment, I thought, ‘How is it going?’ The result was that my shoulder dislocated after I managed to avoid it.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Do you think trying to avoid the tag led to the injury?
| Quote: | | “That’s definitely part of it. Looking back now, my left shoulder was already pretty sore, so it was more like a buildup. How should I put it… the area was already hurting, and it became more susceptible to dislocating. When I entered a certain angle while trying to avoid the tag, that’s when it dislocated.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Was there any accumulation of injury?
| Quote: | | A: When I was playing, I didn’t realize if there was any accumulation during the season. There were days when I felt like, “My left shoulder hurts today.” But after it actually dislocated, it felt like the same pain, but worse. So, talking with the doctor, I realized, “Ah, it must have been accumulated.” |
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| Quote: | Q: After the injury, there was a story that Shohei Ohtani sent a message to the players-only text group while the team was on the bus to New York. Was that because you didn’t want to worry them?
| Quote: | | A: It wasn’t so much about not wanting to worry them, but more about humor, I guess. (laughs) I didn’t want it to be taken too seriously. Of course, I didn’t know if I’d be able to play, but I thought I probably wouldn’t be able to. I wasn’t sure what would happen, but the team had already gone ahead, and I was left behind to get an MRI (a detailed examination). |
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| Quote: | Q: When I saw the first swing in Game 3, I could tell it looked really painful by how wide you were opening your eyes.
| Quote: | A: I definitely remember that. I could tolerate it, but when the swing happens, I thought it probably wouldn’t dislocate again, given the angle. If it had been my right shoulder, I probably wouldn’t have been able to play.
Of course, the first hit was painful (laughs). I’m not someone who has gone through it repeatedly, so it’s loose, but on the other hand, once I got used to it, the pain didn’t feel as bad. Since it was my first time, I wasn’t sure how I’d feel after two or three days, but if an injection or painkiller made it bearable, I wasn’t going to refuse playing. |
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| Quote: | Q: Was it a source of motivation that the team said they needed you in the lineup?
| Quote: | A: Yes, definitely. Without that, I wouldn’t have played. Of course, I didn’t want to play at less than 100% of my performance, because I didn’t want to be a burden.
If I wasn’t going to be a plus for the team, I wouldn’t have played. But even so, if I could still contribute, and if my presence in the lineup could make a difference for the opponent’s bullpen, then I wanted to play. So, I checked my condition and decided to play.
I wasn’t sure about the details of the tests, but I had a feeling surgery would probably be necessary. After the season, I wasn’t worried about the surgery affecting next year, so I was okay with it. After the season, I could have surgery and go through rehab, so it wasn’t an issue. |
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| Quote: | Q: Given the stage, didn’t you think, “Why now, of all times…”?
| Quote: | | A: When you get injured, of course, like with my elbow, there’s no “why” about it. Injuries happen. There are accidental injuries and chronic ones, so there’s no real “why.” But yeah, the moment it happened, I thought, “Oh, I might not be able to play anymore.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Looking back on this year, we would like to hear about your feelings at the time regarding the incident with the former interpreter. We are not looking to know about the incident itself, but rather how you felt at the time and how you overcame it. How do you remember it now?
| Quote: | A: I was in Korea, so… I don’t really know how to explain it. For me, it still hasn’t ended. It’s something that’s ongoing. So it’s not really about how I felt at that time.
It feels like it’s something that has continued. On the field, I didn’t really dwell on it. I just did my job. I never felt guilty. No matter what was said, I just wanted to do my job. I’ve been doing this since I was little because I love it, and now that I’ve reached this point, I didn’t want to waste time thinking about those things while playing.
It was more like, “This is this, and that is that.” It was a fresh start for me with a new team. I didn’t really let things from outside the field affect me. I wanted to fit in with the team as quickly as possible, and I wanted to be recognized by the fans as part of the team.
That’s how I felt, especially in April and May. By June, I felt like I was finally starting to get used to the team and playing with that sense. |
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| Quote: | Q: During the press conference, you mentioned that you were “sad and shocked,” but I remember you didn’t blame the former interpreter at that time. I would like to know what your feelings were at that time.
| Quote: | | A: What were my feelings? At the press conference, I was really… I guess my main focus was to explain the truth. That was the goal. I was concentrating on that. The main point was to provide a clear explanation of what had happened and the situation surrounding it. That’s what I was focusing on. |
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| Quote: | Q: Did the situation with the former interpreter affect your mood on the field?
| Quote: | | A: No, it didn’t affect me on the field. Of course, I switched gears and separated the two. |
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| Quote: | Q: Did it affect your personal life? For example, when you went to bed at night?
| Quote: | | A: In my personal life, no, there was just too much to do. I had to talk to a lot of people, including explaining the situation. So, simply put, there wasn’t enough time. I would handle those things in the morning or before heading to the game. Then, once I got to the ballpark, it was like, “Alright, time to play.” So, I just felt like I didn’t have much time, especially early on. It was taking up my time. |
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| Quote: | In this interview, we were able to hear Shohei Ohtani’s thoughts on the illegal gambling issue involving his former interpreter, Ippei Mizuhara, for the first time. What stood out was that his expression never once clouded over.
Naturally, I had assumed that this was a question Ohtani wouldn’t want to be asked, and before asking, I had expected him to say, “I don’t want to answer at all.”
However, when I did ask, Ohtani looked straight ahead and responded with the same calm expression he always has, as if nothing had changed.
The two of them had shared more than six years of ups and downs together since Ohtani’s time with the Angels.
At the beginning of the season, I had thought that the shock Ohtani felt was immeasurable, but now, after such an incredible season, I had assumed that the sadness had long been overcome.
That’s why his unexpected answer, “In my mind, it’s not over,” resonated deeply in my heart.
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| Quote: | Q: When you reflect on 2024 in the context of your baseball career, what title would you give it?
| Quote: | | A: This year? Hmm, I’m not sure (laughs). The ending was of course amazing, so I’m satisfied with that. I also feel like I’ve gained great energy for next year. I think it was a good year, and I’m happy that we were able to celebrate together at the end. It was the best. |
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| Quote: | Q: Looking ahead to next year as you return to pitching, in an interview last year, you mentioned, “If I have to undergo surgery again, I think a position change will be necessary.” Does that mean you are approaching it with that kind of determination?
| Quote: | | A: I think that’s true. Of course, it’s my second surgery, and as I get older, transitioning from a mid-career player to an experienced player, if another surgery comes up, spending another year and a half in rehabilitation and trying to come back might not be realistic. So, when I think about it, I feel like this might be my last chance. |
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| Quote: | Q: Having fulfilled your long-time dream of becoming a World Champion, what do you now aim for over the next nine years as you continue playing?
| Quote: | A: It’s simple. I just want to get better. I think that’s the only thing. Becoming a World Champion is a team goal for the season, but in the grand scheme of my baseball career, it’s just one of the titles I’ll pass through.
My main goal is to improve at baseball and to leave behind as many things that I’m satisfied with while I’m still playing. The games and the results come within that. But I think the biggest thing will remain unchanged. |
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| Quote: | Q: Are you still far from being fully satisfied?
| Quote: | | “Well, I think I’m progressing at a good pace, but of course, it’s not a perfect 100-point pace. Whether I can catch up to that ideal pace in the future is something I don’t know yet. I’m looking forward to seeing how things unfold from here.” |
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| Quote: | Q: What do you think you gain by winning?
| Quote: | “There are things you gain from winning, and of course, there are things you gain from losing as well. What can I say… I think the fact that I’ve experienced winning and the good things that come with it is what has kept me motivated to this point.
If I had been losing continuously, I probably wouldn’t have been able to work this hard. I don’t think I’m that strong of a person. The experience of winning has been a driving force that amplifies the frustration of losing and pushes me to grow even more.” |
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| Quote: | Q: This year has been full of events, but what was the happiest moment for you, Ohtani-san?
| Quote: | | “The happiest moment? During this season, you mean?” |
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| Quote: | Q: Over the course of the entire year.
| Quote: | | “Well, I’d say it was probably when Deco’s ceremonial first pitch was a success Hahaha. Honestly, I was more nervous for that than for any at-bat. No joke.” |
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| Quote: | Q: Did you practice a lot for it?
| Quote: | | “No, it was more like I was just worried about whether they’d poop or something like that haha. That’s all I was thinking about.” |
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The guy loves his dog somethin' awful. I can relate! |
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^^
Yeah, you can see the Japanese culture in that answer. Very humble, very polite, always trying to deflect attention on personal accomplishments.
In a year when he signed a $700M deal, got married, won MVP, got to 50/50, and won a WS, he picks a story about his dog for the happiest moment of the year.
He reminds me of Jokic’s “when is parade? I need to get home to my horses” answer. |
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| Quote: | Francys Romero
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Source: Two days before the start of the 2024-25 international period, the Padres and Dodgers will finalize their agreements after Roki Sasaki and Wasserman reach a decision likely on January 20 or after.
If Sasaki chooses otherwise, those signings will proceed as planned.
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Anyone knows what this means?
Signing period begins Jan 15.
2 days before that is Jan 13.
So on Jan 13, the Dodgers n Padres will finalize some type of agreement but after Jan 20 when Sasaki decides?
I’m lost
Ok, I think I got it. Dodgers finalize agreements with other prospects on Jan 13. If Sasaki chooses the Dodgers on Jan 20, then these agreements are off. If he chooses another team, then these agreements are on? |
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| Quote: | MLB Deadline News
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The #Padres have told international amateurs who expected to sign in the 2025 signing class that they are “free to seek other deals” and the #Dodgers have told players to consider signing in next year’s class while both teams wait for a Roki Sasaki decision, per The Athletic
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Sounds like a decision is near…
| Quote: | | Giants have been told Sasaki is not coming to SF. |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Quote: | MLB Deadline News
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The #Padres have told international amateurs who expected to sign in the 2025 signing class that they are “free to seek other deals” and the #Dodgers have told players to consider signing in next year’s class while both teams wait for a Roki Sasaki decision, per The Athletic
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Padres feel bad to other prospects so they tell them it's okay to look for other teams while Dodgers are telling them if you want to play for us then wait another year. What a boss move by the Dodgers. Nice guys always finish last.  |
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1995Lakers
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| Not sure why Sasaki is doing this whole "process" to begin with when the results speak for themselves. It didn't take Nomo long to choose the Dodgers because of Peter O'Malley, ruling out the Mariners and Giants. It really didnt take any time at all for Irabu to choose the Yankees when he was the biggest hype in Japanese baseball and essentially forced the Padres to trade him when the Padres had a working agreement with Chiba Lotte because of the Yankees prestige and winning. I think after these two for the longest time, players couldn't really choose their team and was based on a posting system that chose the team based on how much these players were posted for starting with Ichiro Suzuki. Just say you want to be a Dodger like Irabu did and be done with it. Irabu made no secret of his desire to only be a Yankee |
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1995Lakers
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| Yankees out on Sasaki and seems like Mets are out too |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| 1995Lakers wrote: | | Not sure why Sasaki is doing this whole "process" to begin with when the results speak for themselves. It didn't take Nomo long to choose the Dodgers because of Peter O'Malley, ruling out the Mariners and Giants. It really didnt take any time at all for Irabu to choose the Yankees when he was the biggest hype in Japanese baseball and essentially forced the Padres to trade him when the Padres had a working agreement with Chiba Lotte because of the Yankees prestige and winning. I think after these two for the longest time, players couldn't really choose their team and was based on a posting system that chose the team based on how much these players were posted for starting with Ichiro Suzuki. Just say you want to be a Dodger like Irabu did and be done with it. Irabu made no secret of his desire to only be a Yankee |
Because other teams complained to Manfred that there was already a handshake deal between him and the Dodgers even before he was posted.
Manfred forced/pressured Sasaki to be posted in 2025 and they came up with a plan to make it look like other teams have a legit shot at signing him.
It's just a show.
Irabu didn't need to put on a show because he was a free agent coming over.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Yankees out with the whole hero Tanaka angle and Mets out even with Senga. How can the Padres with their disaster going on and Blue Jays??? compete with us. Cubs - what do they have that the Mets dont? The only angle Padres can use is "Come save us Roki.....become a hero and the big fish in a small pond and win us our first ring" even though if he is as ambitious as he says he is, he should in no way even consider San Diego |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:52 am Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | 1995Lakers wrote: | | Not sure why Sasaki is doing this whole "process" to begin with when the results speak for themselves. It didn't take Nomo long to choose the Dodgers because of Peter O'Malley, ruling out the Mariners and Giants. It really didnt take any time at all for Irabu to choose the Yankees when he was the biggest hype in Japanese baseball and essentially forced the Padres to trade him when the Padres had a working agreement with Chiba Lotte because of the Yankees prestige and winning. I think after these two for the longest time, players couldn't really choose their team and was based on a posting system that chose the team based on how much these players were posted for starting with Ichiro Suzuki. Just say you want to be a Dodger like Irabu did and be done with it. Irabu made no secret of his desire to only be a Yankee |
Because other teams complained to Manfred that there was already a handshake deal between him and the Dodgers even before he was posted.
Manfred forced/pressured Sasaki to be posted in 2025 and they came up with a plan to make it look like other teams have a legit shot at signing him.
It's just a show.
Irabu didn't need to put on a show because he was a free agent coming over. |
Now that I think about it....it may have been Irabu openly strong-arming his way into being in pinstripes that created the whole posting system to begin with so perhaps like you say, its good for this charade to happen. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 11:54 am Post subject: |
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| 1995Lakers wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | 1995Lakers wrote: | | Not sure why Sasaki is doing this whole "process" to begin with when the results speak for themselves. It didn't take Nomo long to choose the Dodgers because of Peter O'Malley, ruling out the Mariners and Giants. It really didnt take any time at all for Irabu to choose the Yankees when he was the biggest hype in Japanese baseball and essentially forced the Padres to trade him when the Padres had a working agreement with Chiba Lotte because of the Yankees prestige and winning. I think after these two for the longest time, players couldn't really choose their team and was based on a posting system that chose the team based on how much these players were posted for starting with Ichiro Suzuki. Just say you want to be a Dodger like Irabu did and be done with it. Irabu made no secret of his desire to only be a Yankee |
Because other teams complained to Manfred that there was already a handshake deal between him and the Dodgers even before he was posted.
Manfred forced/pressured Sasaki to be posted in 2025 and they came up with a plan to make it look like other teams have a legit shot at signing him.
It's just a show.
Irabu didn't need to put on a show because he was a free agent coming over. |
Now that I think about it....it may have been Irabu openly strong-arming his way into being in pinstripes that created the whole posting system to begin with so perhaps like you say, its good for this charade to happen. |
Yeah, I just can't get over the fact that the Dodgers were the ONLY team with $2.5M left last yr when Sasaki was about to get posted.
Sasaki gave the Dodgers the heads up to save that money for him. The Padres saved $0. Sasaki didn't give the Padres the same heads up. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Jim Bowden is such a dork. Dude was a guy who usually bit off more than he could chew when he was a GM with Cincinnati and looks like nothing has changed. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Down to Dodgers, Padres, and Blue Jays? |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Most likely I'm sure it's a charade but Padres being a legit contender to sign him just don't make sense. Just because of Darvish? It would be more believable if he kept the Yankees or Mets in the running. Maybe he is keeping the Padres in the running so he only needs to fly in to 1 airport to visit both teams for that second meeting. It's more convenient. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | Most likely I'm sure it's a charade but Padres being a legit contender to sign him just don't make sense. Just because of Darvish? It would be more believable if he kept the Yankees or Mets in the running. Maybe he is keeping the Padres in the running so he only needs to fly in to 1 airport to visit both teams for that second meeting. It's more convenient. |
This is what Im thinking. If he truly cared about being the best and being known as the best ever as he stated and owning a market to himself where he can say, "this is MY city and I will own America", he should have gone to the Yankees. Plus there was that whole Tanaka angle. Seriously, Padres, Blue Jays, Rangers????? Give me a break. STOP IT. |
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| Quote: | Noah Camras
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Based on Roki Sasaki's known meetings, here's who appears to be in and out of the sweepstakes according to all the latest reports:
In: Dodgers, Padres, Cubs, Blue Jays, Rangers
Out: Giants, Yankees, Mets
Sasaki has until Jan. 23 to sign with an MLB team.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I would have respected Sasaki's decision had he decided to become a Yankee if not the Dodgers. But if he chooses these second-tier irrelevant inferior clubs like the Padres, Cubs, Blue Jays or Rangers, he is NOT HIM. |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Rangers the next team to fall off |
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| Posted: Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| So Blue Jays are going to be a final contender for a big free agent again. Not sure how much more their fans can take if he doesn't choose them. |
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