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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:29 pm    Post subject:

Here's a sample of reddit users (with Yankees flair) on Hal's comments:

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There’s a reason Hal was George’s last choice to run the team lol


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Hal was always the least favorite child. he’s a pansy and has a losers mentality. embarrassment to the family name.


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How the mighty have fallen

Will someone please think of the pockets of the New York Yankees


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Pretty sure the yankees are valued at almost the dodgers and mets combined btw
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Pretty close. Forbes values the Yankees at $7.55 billion, the Dodgers at $5.45 billion and the Mets at 3 billion.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:37 pm    Post subject:

Yates was absolutely dominant last season and he was also dominant in 2019. His seasons in 2020, 2021 and 2022 were basically wiped out from his second TJS, but he returned to pitch well for the Braves in 2023, and then last year obviously was incredible. His fastball "only" averaged 93.1 last season (in line with his career mark of 93.4), but he gets a lot of swings and misses on it because his splitter is absolutely devastating. He's basically a two-pitch pitcher (fastball/splitter 99.4% of the time), so his pattern is similar to someone like Devin Williams (94.7 average fastball velo last season), who is a fastball/changeup guy (98.5% of the time), and Williams also doesn't have overpowering velocity. With both of them, it's basically that the offspeed pitch is so good that you throw off the hitters' timing. This was Trevor Hoffman for years and years.

We really aren't messing around and we're sparing no expense. It's pretty remarkable. Also, I agree that Kike is likely to come back. If he had lucrative multi-year offers out there, he would have taken that by now. I find it unlikely that he'd want to play elsewhere on a 1-year deal, and I find it unlikely that we wouldn't want him back. For all we know, Friedman has been working hard on trying to unload Taylor, or somebody else in a creative trade. We didn't agree on a contract with Vesia, our lone arb holdout, so I wouldn't be shocked if it's him, although Brasier really does make the most sense if we can find a home for him.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 7:11 am    Post subject:

More Hal quotes:

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"We'll see if it pays off."

"They still have to have a season that's relatively injury-free for it to work out for them," Steinbrenner said.

"It's a long season as you know, and once you get to the postseason, anything can happen. We've seen that time and time again. We'll see who's there at the end."


Looks like Hal’s wishing injury on us.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:53 pm    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
More Hal quotes:

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"We'll see if it pays off."

"They still have to have a season that's relatively injury-free for it to work out for them," Steinbrenner said.

"It's a long season as you know, and once you get to the postseason, anything can happen. We've seen that time and time again. We'll see who's there at the end."


Looks like Hal’s wishing injury on us.


This is sad. At least Jeanie doesn’t speak.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:46 pm    Post subject:

We have come to an agreement with Vesia, and it looks to be extremely team-friendly. He gets a $2.3MM guarantee ($2.25MM this year plus a 50K buyout if we don't exercise next year's club option), and the 2026 club option is only worth $3.55MM, with another 175K possible in incentives. He had filed at $2.35MM for this season, so he almost gets that full amount for 2025. However, that's a relatively modest raise for next season, and given how great he's been over the last two seasons, I'm surprised that he would accept such a deal.

This also makes him an extremely attractive trade chip.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:21 pm    Post subject:

Happy Lunar NY!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:47 pm    Post subject:

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Happy Lunar NY!


Happy New Year/Tet!

There's a Year of the Snake Dodgers hat for sale:

https://www.lidshd.com/products/los-angeles-dodgers-mlb-year-of-the-snake-59fifty

Wish they had one for Year of the Dragon (my year).
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:19 am    Post subject:

Ha Seong Kim got paid:

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Rays, Ha-Seong Kim Agree To Two-Year, $29M Deal

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The contract is worth $29 million and includes an opt-out clause after this season, sources told MLB.com. The club has not confirmed the agreement.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:34 am    Post subject:

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Dodgers' Roki Sasaki Almost Underwent Tommy John Surgery in Japan


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Sasaki was asked about a previous elbow injury and explained that his elbow issues stemmed from challenges he faced during his first year with the Chiba Lotte Marines in Japan.

At just 18 years old, Sasaki struggled to rehabilitate a strained muscle in his right arm, and his slow recovery led him to seek treatment at multiple hospitals.

One doctor even recommended Tommy John surgery, but Sasaki ultimately chose not to undergo the procedure, unwilling to risk his future on such a career-altering surgery.

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“You hear many voices that say I should have waited two more years [to come to the United States], but there are of course no guarantees about my condition in those two years,” Sasaki said in Japanese.

“I’ve had numerous minor injuries in Japan, and I don’t think that’s solely a result of the direction of the team,” he said.

“I think there are many things I can do myself, and things that I can improve. Of course, there’s uneasiness, but I think I don’t have a choice but to just make it work.”


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Sasaki did some research and discovered that his elbow discomfort was actually caused by shoulder problems. Taking matters into his own hands, he chose not to throw at all that season, ultimately delaying his decision to come to MLB by two years.

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“I decided the time I will spend in these two years was more valuable to me than money and stuff like that,” Sasaki shared.


Damn, sounds like Sasaki is also a google doctor.

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The Dodgers aren't looking to overload Sasaki with innings in his debut season. With the potential of a six-man rotation, his schedule will likely mirror what he had in Japan. He is expected to break camp in the big league starting rotation.

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“We don’t know at this point,” said president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman when asked about Sasaki’s workload.

“He’s going to go out and start the season, and we will continue to work with him on [his] routine between starts. There’s more travel here. But we don’t have any artificial number of innings. It’s going to be much more about partnering with him, getting that feedback, and seeing how he bounces back between starts.”

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:45 am    Post subject:

^^^Great stuff LBP. Love reading about infos like these. Hopefully he doesn't over do it from the beginning. I would love for him to get ROY but rather have him last for the whole season and see him in the playoffs. I don't even want to see a phantom IL because that can affect his rhythm. Just start off real slow and slowly work his way up because I really want to see him pitch at his best in the post season.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:53 am    Post subject:

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Jim Callis at MLB.com talked to several major league executives, trying to figure out if Sasaki is the best pitching prospect ever. Among the other candidates discussed were Paul Skenes, Stephen Strasburg, and (as a pitcher only) Shohei Ohtani.

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“The consensus among the executives we surveyed was that Ohtani, Skenes and Strasburg had higher floors because they had more well-rounded repertoires and physicality,” Callis wrote, “but that Sasaki might have more upside than any of them.”



Here's that article below:


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Is Roki Sasaki the best pitching prospect ever? Here's what execs said

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Is Sasaki the best? We posed that question to several executives, asking how he stacks up against Stephen Strasburg (the No. 1 overall pick in 2009) and Paul Skenes (No. 1 in 2023), the top mound prospects in Draft history, and Ohtani, who created similar buzz when he came over from Japan in 2017.



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Sasaki vs. Skenes

Almost all of the club officials we consulted prefer Skenes to Sasaki at the same stage of their careers. Skenes didn't have a single pitch that could match Sasaki's splitter, but he had a better fastball with similar velocity, a significantly better slider, better command and a stronger build (6-foot-6, 235 pounds vs. 6-foot-2, 187 pounds).


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"It's Skenes over Sasaki," a special assistant on an American League club said.

"The thing about Skenes is he had the best college pitch data I've ever seen and he also had the second-best command in the whole 2023 Draft behind Rhett Lowder. That was shocking. I would have taken him 1-1 if he had fringy command because his stuff is so electric, and he wasn't even using his splinker then."





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Sasaki vs. Ohtani

Ohtani vs. Sasaki is a closer call, not giving the three-time MVP any extra consideration for his two-way ability. Ohtani's proponents will point to his superior fastball finish, slider and health while noting that he had a well-above-average splitter, even if it wasn't as devastating as Sasaki's. Those who favor Sasaki do so because of his advantages with his splitter, strike-throwing and projectability.

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"It's comparable in terms of raw quality of stuff and age," a player-personnel director with a National League team said.

"The durability factor is one thing in Shohei's favor. Roki is more projectable and has a better split. I probably would have gone with Roki at the same stage."




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Sasaki vs. Strasburg

The evaluators were similarly divided on Sasaki vs. Strasburg. Sasaki gets points for his otherworldly splitter and potentially higher ceiling. Strasburg's overall stuff was better relative to his era, his power curveball was at least a grade better than Sasaki's slider and he was stronger.

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"I would take him over Strasburg," a second NL player-personnel director said.

"He throws a little bit harder and still has projection. Sasaki at age 25, 26, 27 might have a gear he couldn't find. His ceiling is off the charts. You can make the case that his ceiling is higher than Ohtani and Skenes too because you can project more. But the more you project, the more risk there is."



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Conclusion

The consensus among the executives we surveyed was that Ohtani, Skenes and Strasburg had higher floors because they had more well-rounded repertoires and physicality but that Sasaki might have more upside than any of them. He joins a Dodgers organization renowned for helping players develop to their fullest potential, albeit one that has been plagued by a lot of pitching injuries as well.

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"Roki's ceiling is slightly higher provided that he can get stronger," the first player-personnel director said.

"He can command his fastball a little bit better to his glove side. He can develop his slider. He should be a real asset right away and he's going to get better with refinement and projectability. He could easily be the best pitcher in the world with a little more development."
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:55 am    Post subject:

aprevo15 wrote:
^^^Great stuff LBP. Love reading about infos like these. Hopefully he doesn't over do it from the beginning. I would love for him to get ROY but rather have him last for the whole season and see him in the playoffs. I don't even want to see a phantom IL because that can affect his rhythm. Just start off real slow and slowly work his way up because I really want to see him pitch at his best in the post season.


Yeah, please protect his arm. Although, I'm skeptical (of him avoiding major arm injury over his career) based on how hard and nasty his pitches are.

Fingers are really crossed.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 11:05 am    Post subject:

aprevo15 wrote:
^^^Great stuff LBP. Love reading about infos like these. Hopefully he doesn't over do it from the beginning. I would love for him to get ROY but rather have him last for the whole season and see him in the playoffs. I don't even want to see a phantom IL because that can affect his rhythm. Just start off real slow and slowly work his way up because I really want to see him pitch at his best in the post season.


I will second that. Great find LBP. Great read. This is the stuff that brings us back.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 12:45 pm    Post subject:

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aprevo15 wrote:
^^^Great stuff LBP. Love reading about infos like these. Hopefully he doesn't over do it from the beginning. I would love for him to get ROY but rather have him last for the whole season and see him in the playoffs. I don't even want to see a phantom IL because that can affect his rhythm. Just start off real slow and slowly work his way up because I really want to see him pitch at his best in the post season.


I will second that. Great find LBP. Great read. This is the stuff that brings us back.


Yeah, this is excellent! Great reading about how the execs evaluate and compare.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:07 pm    Post subject:

The Blue Jays have signed Max Scherzer to a 1-year deal for $15.5MM.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:07 pm    Post subject:

Toronto gets Scherzer. Am pleased for them to finally get someone in
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 2:38 pm    Post subject:

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Toronto gets Scherzer. Am pleased for them to finally get someone in


The Dodgers are so loaded/stacked that their AAA ball club could win 80+ games
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 3:31 pm    Post subject:

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Toronto gets Scherzer. Am pleased for them to finally get someone in


They were also able to sign Anthony Santander, remember. I'm actually hoping that they hang around in the AL playoff race, because if they don't, it could mean that Vladdy Jr. is available, and he may end up being dealt to one of our NL rivals.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:48 pm    Post subject:

We're DFA'ing Brasier. Can still find a trade for him, but that's the move that will allow Yates onto the 40-man.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:55 pm    Post subject:

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We're DFA'ing Brasier. Can still find a trade for him, but that's the move that will allow Yates onto the 40-man.


Hopefully someone takes on that contract. Looks like he was a one yr wonder for us and the signing didn't work out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:01 pm    Post subject:

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ChickenStu wrote:
We're DFA'ing Brasier. Can still find a trade for him, but that's the move that will allow Yates onto the 40-man.


Hopefully someone takes on that contract. Looks like he was a one yr wonder for us and the signing didn't work out.


He's worth his contract of $4.5MM, I think. Last year's 3.54 ERA (3.31 FIP) in 28 innings wasn't disastrous, and his WHIP was actually under 1, which is encouraging. You'd think that a team wouldn't mind him on their team as a middle reliever with upside for more. Maybe we'll get a lower-level prospect or two out of it. If not, hey, we added Kirby Yates instead of him.

He did pitch a scoreless 1st inning in Game 4 against the Padres, the bullpen game we had to win. Under normal circumstances, it's not like we would have been jonesing to get him off the roster. Three things happened: going to a 6-man rotation meant one less bullpen spot was available, we signed Tanner Scott, and we signed Yates. Getting 2 high-end relievers couldn't have been expected when we entered the winter.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:04 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
We're DFA'ing Brasier. Can still find a trade for him, but that's the move that will allow Yates onto the 40-man.


Hopefully someone takes on that contract. Looks like he was a one yr wonder for us and the signing didn't work out.


He's worth his contract of $4.5MM, I think. Last year's 3.54 ERA (3.31 FIP) in 28 innings wasn't disastrous, and his WHIP was actually under 1, which is encouraging. You'd think that a team wouldn't mind him on their team as a middle reliever with upside for more. Maybe we'll get a lower-level prospect or two out of it. If not, hey, we added Kirby Yates instead of him.


Yeah, I was thinking he was great the previous year and only got $4.5M a year. Now, we're looking to move on from him so maybe he's not worth the $4.5M anymore. Who knows.

Seems like we didn't really trust him in the playoffs last year.

I think we've been trying to move him but couldn't so we DFA'd him. At this point, I'll be glad if someone took him off our hands without us having to eat some of his salary.

I can see it going both ways. If no one trades for him, we'll probably release him and they could sign him on a cheaper deal. So we'll see.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:10 pm    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
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ChickenStu wrote:
We're DFA'ing Brasier. Can still find a trade for him, but that's the move that will allow Yates onto the 40-man.


Hopefully someone takes on that contract. Looks like he was a one yr wonder for us and the signing didn't work out.


He's worth his contract of $4.5MM, I think. Last year's 3.54 ERA (3.31 FIP) in 28 innings wasn't disastrous, and his WHIP was actually under 1, which is encouraging. You'd think that a team wouldn't mind him on their team as a middle reliever with upside for more. Maybe we'll get a lower-level prospect or two out of it. If not, hey, we added Kirby Yates instead of him.


Yeah, I was thinking he was great the previous year and only got $4.5M a year. Now, we're looking to move on from him so maybe he's not worth the $4.5M anymore. Who knows.

Seems like we didn't really trust him in the playoffs last year.

I think we've been trying to move him but couldn't so we DFA'd him. At this point, I'll be glad if someone took him off our hands without us having to eat some of his salary.

I can see it going both ways. If no one trades for him, we'll probably release him and they could sign him on a cheaper deal. So we'll see.


Yep. I guess the motivation for a team to possibly trade for him is if they feel like there's no way he'd sign with them in free agency. So perhaps you give up a lower-level prospect or two if you think he can help you this year and if you think the price is fair. We shall find out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 6:14 pm    Post subject:

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#Dodgers finally make the signing of Kirby Yates officially official. Veteran reliever Ryan Brasier is DFAed to clear a 40-man roster spot.

LAD had been looking to move Brasier in a trade but apparently got no traction on that.


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My guess is the Dodgers will announce a trade or a DFA (with a trade to follow) whenever they make the Kirby Yates signing official. It isn’t yet. Could happen as soon as tomorrow.

Candidates to exit include but are not limited to:

- Ryan Brasier
- James Outman
- Michael Grove and
- Chris Taylor, (perhaps in that order)

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Man, can't believe how far Outman has fallen to become a candidate to be DFA'd...
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2025 7:40 pm    Post subject:

Moses wrote:
Toronto gets Scherzer. Am pleased for them to finally get someone in


Damn. I wanted Mad Max to get a ring with the Dodgers.
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