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TMG Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:33 am Post subject: |
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We needed a proper 3&D wing and DFS is preciesly that imo.
Buuuuut...This either means Rob has a guard on the way or he's expecting Reaves to take a major step in his playmakng duties.
Reaves and Lebron being the only two creators is tuff.
We still need a Guard and backup big.
shake is not a DLO replacement. As much as i dislike DLO and as garbage as he has been this season. We shouldn't have traded him if there isn't a guard coming in.
But on the other hand if gabe keeps playing the way he has
Gabe-Reaves-Bron being creators might work.
Either way DFS is a great for what we need. |
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Kblo247! Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:33 am Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Don't like the move. With Christie and Hachimura playing well recently didn't think this was necessary.
The league is moving more towards more guard play and for all the inconsistency in DLO he was still a more valuable piece imo. |
In a world where the lakers can’t get another big back and they have to wait on the return of Hayes/Vando/ Wood … DFS still fits the need. He can play small ball big with any combo of AD/Bron/Rui and space the floor. He’s not going to back down in the spot.
Gabe playing well was the death shot for Dlo, especially Gabe as a starter playing better for JJ. Add in Max starting well, Cam contributing, and them liking Dalton and he was screwed once all that happened with Reaves already taking his role and Rui being a full time starter that shoots better than him
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Megaton Retired Number

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:34 am Post subject: |
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BobbyB wrote: | Don't like the move. With Christie and Hachimura playing well recently didn't think this was necessary.
The league is moving more towards more guard play and for all the inconsistency in DLO he was still a more valuable piece imo. |
DLO is redundant with Gabe Vincent stepping up, Dalton Knecht here, Max Christie turning into our 3 and D guard, and Austin Reaves doing literally everything better than DLO tried to do here.
DLO has been getting worse and worse every game he’s played here this season. I became sick and tired of his 3 for 9 games or him just doing cardio nowadays. I also didn’t want to see more of playoff DLO.
He needed to be traded. That’s just a fact. What we need is a Center BADLY. Without that, we aren’t contenders. _________________ LUKA FREAKING DONCIC WHAT IS THIS TIMELINE?!
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Lakesh0wtime Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:35 am Post subject: |
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Jamesikan wrote: | Now that the initial sting of losing DLo has subsided slightly... I hope DFS feasts with us.
Will these two be available to play on Tuesday? I know physicals and stuff take a while, but we have two days in between. |
I teased you in the other thread but as excited as I am for the DFS pickup…losing Dlo will hurt our offense.
It’s really hoping Austin can keep up his efficiency. |
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Megaton Retired Number

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:36 am Post subject: |
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strong9 wrote: | Not saying getting rid if dlo is bad but this was a bad return. Unless DFS is your center he is at a crowded position at F and frankly he isn't a good solution at center. And you lost your primary ball handler outside of Lebron in the process. |
Reaves has been the primary ball handler now. DLO became redundant and has been trash this season. He needed to go. _________________ LUKA FREAKING DONCIC WHAT IS THIS TIMELINE?!
jodeke wrote: | I think Bron is in his world playing with Bronny. I wonder if they shower together.  |
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anth2000 Franchise Player


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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:36 am Post subject: |
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strong9 wrote: | Not saying getting rid if dlo is bad but this was a bad return. Unless DFS is your center he is at a crowded position at F and frankly he isn't a good solution at center. And you lost your primary ball handler outside of Lebron in the process. |
Reaves handles as much as Dlo and is a much better playmaker.
Reaves gives you 1000% effort game after game while Dlo gives you 30% one day, 50% the other and even 10% on another.
That was my biggest issue with Russell is effort. He is super passive and almost slow motion at times with ZERO defensive effort.
That is not a winning formula.
I wish him well, though. I liked his contributions at times. |
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manlisten Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Gabe/Max/DFS/Vando/AD would be interesting. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points." |
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Megaton Retired Number

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:37 am Post subject: |
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TMG wrote: | We needed a proper 3&D wing and DFS is preciesly that imo.
Buuuuut...This either means Rob has a guard on the way or he's expecting Reaves to take a major step in his playmakng duties. |
I feel like nobody has been watching any games this year.
Reaves has been the point guard all season and he literally just pulled off 16 assists last game and a triple double the game before. He is the primary ball handler right now. _________________ LUKA FREAKING DONCIC WHAT IS THIS TIMELINE?!
jodeke wrote: | I think Bron is in his world playing with Bronny. I wonder if they shower together.  |
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strong9 Star Player


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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:41 am Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | strong9 wrote: | Not saying getting rid if dlo is bad but this was a bad return. Unless DFS is your center he is at a crowded position at F and frankly he isn't a good solution at center. And you lost your primary ball handler outside of Lebron in the process. |
Reaves has been the primary ball handler now. DLO became redundant and has been trash this season. He needed to go. |
Have you seen his TO numbers? He almost cost us the very same GS game he then saved. We aren't in that position ifhe makes better decisions. |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | strong9 wrote: | Not saying getting rid if dlo is bad but this was a bad return. Unless DFS is your center he is at a crowded position at F and frankly he isn't a good solution at center. And you lost your primary ball handler outside of Lebron in the process. |
Reaves has been the primary ball handler now. DLO became redundant and has been trash this season. He needed to go. |
Yeah no matter that Dlo can be the secondary ball handler he hasn't been. His value was down but I'm cool with DFS but feel like they gave up 2 too many 2nds but so be it. I wonder if they will look at Fultz if they can free up a spot but we still need a big.
As for DFS, we finally have a solid 3/4 defender to pair with Christie to have coverage through the game. Heck of a complement to Knect with that group too. Even at his age he is really efficient, we should be happy. |
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Megaton Retired Number

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:44 am Post subject: |
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strong9 wrote: | Megaton wrote: | strong9 wrote: | Not saying getting rid if dlo is bad but this was a bad return. Unless DFS is your center he is at a crowded position at F and frankly he isn't a good solution at center. And you lost your primary ball handler outside of Lebron in the process. |
Reaves has been the primary ball handler now. DLO became redundant and has been trash this season. He needed to go. |
Have you seen his TO numbers? He almost cost us the very same GS game he then saved. We aren't in that position ifhe makes better decisions. |
Lebron also gets A LOT of turnovers. Nobody thinks he isn’t a playmaker.
The team moves a lot better with Reaves handling the ball. That’s just a fact. Deal with it. _________________ LUKA FREAKING DONCIC WHAT IS THIS TIMELINE?!
jodeke wrote: | I think Bron is in his world playing with Bronny. I wonder if they shower together.  |
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TMG Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | TMG wrote: | We needed a proper 3&D wing and DFS is preciesly that imo.
Buuuuut...This either means Rob has a guard on the way or he's expecting Reaves to take a major step in his playmakng duties. |
I feel like nobody has been watching any games this year.
Reaves has been the point guard all season and he literally just pulled off 16 assists last game and a triple double the game before. He is the primary ball handler right now. |
And the game against pistons he got mugged.
Good riddance to DLO i never liked him as a player on this team. Infuriating to watch most of the time. However it was good to have an extra creator to go to when AR was getting tired.
But with
Gabe
Christie playing so well as of late DLO did become expndable.
I like the DFS trade a lot. He's a great fit. |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player


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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:59 am Post subject: |
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Still need another defensive big. We could only get away with our small ball against average teams but against tougher opponents, we're going to get crushed. _________________ Lakers used to average one championship every four years under Dr. Buss but I'd gladly take one every ten years now. |
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LakerDYnasty72 Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 10:59 am Post subject: |
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silkwilkes wrote: | Gave up 3 second-round pics, Lewis and DLO for aging role players (likely high second-rounders too given LBJ is retiring soon). Great lol.
Dumb and dumber running the show. Did this stupid stuff in the past... you think 2027 is far away until it's not. |
My goodness, did we do that badly? I don't think so. If balancing the roster better by acquiring a two-way player means anything, then consider this:
DFS is a 6'7 defensive-minded player with a 7' plus wingspan, while at the same time shooting 43% from the 3pt. line. That number is not a fluke. He shot the same % in college for a season. He's at 36.7% from the 3 for his career. Contrast that with, say, Kyle Kuzma, whom some have lobbied for, who shoots 33.3% for his career. In other words, he plays both side of the ball.
Contrast that with Dlo, who played offense well, while being defensively challenged. Max Lewis, otoh, played solid defense at times, but couldn't shoot with any consistency. And I questioned his bball iq. Solid trade! |
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deal Franchise Player


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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:01 am Post subject: |
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i don't trust guys that can't hit their FT's but hit 3pts, it's inconsistent
to me. But we'll see how he does in Lala land.
I always thought DLo needed much more mentoring because he does
have talent. Adios.
I've seen a little shake now and before he was drafted.
Hope this move adds. I still think we need a real C (Kessler). _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:02 am Post subject: |
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deal wrote: | i don't trust guys that can't hit their FT's but hit 3pts, it's inconsistent |
So he’ll fit right in then! _________________ LUKA FREAKING DONCIC WHAT IS THIS TIMELINE?!
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deal Franchise Player


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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Megaton wrote: | deal wrote: | i don't trust guys that can't hit their FT's but hit 3pts, it's inconsistent |
So he’ll fit right in then! | , yeah, i guess so... _________________ Lakers need to build a freaking team ! |
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carjoch831 Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:09 am Post subject: |
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I see Cam going to GS. |
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gng930 Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:10 am Post subject: |
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LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | silkwilkes wrote: | Gave up 3 second-round pics, Lewis and DLO for aging role players (likely high second-rounders too given LBJ is retiring soon). Great lol.
Dumb and dumber running the show. Did this stupid stuff in the past... you think 2027 is far away until it's not. |
My goodness, did we do that badly? I don't think so. If balancing the roster better by acquiring a two-way player means anything, then consider this:
DFS is a 6'7 defensive-minded player with a 7' plus wingspan, while at the same time shooting 43% from the 3pt. line. That number is not a fluke. He shot the same % in college for a season. He's at 36.7% from the 3 for his career. Contrast that with, say, Kyle Kuzma, whom some have lobbied for, who shoots 33.3% for his career. In other words, he plays both side of the ball.
Contrast that with Dlo, who played offense well, while being defensively challenged. Max Lewis, otoh, played solid defense at times, but couldn't shoot with any consistency. And I questioned his bball iq. Solid trade! |
Yeah and SRPs are often obtainable for cash. And don't forget that a future SRP (i.e. "future considerations") essentially becomes available every draft to enhance your trade pot if there's a player you have your eye on. _________________ Luxury Tax/FA Spreadsheet (Save to your Google Drive to edit) |
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LakerSD Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:18 am Post subject: |
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Good trade. Let’s just hope DFS doesn’t drop to 30% from 3 after putting on PnG. |
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:21 am Post subject: |
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My Trae Young hopes are dashed . . . but DFS is a solid pickup while retaining our FRP. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:22 am Post subject: |
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DLO certainly wasn’t doing anything here and it only cost some second round picks so it’s not a bad deal at all. The cherry on top is that the Buss kids saved $15 mil. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Dr. Laker Franchise Player


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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:28 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | DLO certainly wasn’t doing anything here and it only cost some second round picks so it’s not a bad deal at all. The cherry on top is that the Buss kids saved $15 mil. |
Lakers are above the apron. Any trade they make will save money because they cannot take back more salary than they send out. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns". |
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Kblo247! Star Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Dr. Laker wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | DLO certainly wasn’t doing anything here and it only cost some second round picks so it’s not a bad deal at all. The cherry on top is that the Buss kids saved $15 mil. |
Lakers are above the apron. Any trade they make will save money because they cannot take back more salary than they send out. |
But they can now also sign a buyout guy if I'm not mistaken with their 2.8m in wiggle room compared to 35k |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player

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Posted: Sun Dec 29, 2024 11:37 am Post subject: |
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Playmaking will be a challenge especially when LeBron doesn’t play. Gabe, Milton are far from playmakers. |
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