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emplay Site Staff

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governator Retired Number


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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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PG, wing and Big
Keeping AR, Knecht, Vando, Rui, Max and Bronny
Okay Pincus! _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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Halflife Franchise Player

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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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Day'Ron Sharpe - doesn't seem big enough
Dorian Finney-Smith - decent- length
Shake Milton - is he better than Dlo?
Wendell Moore Jr. - seems like he has potential
Dennis - IDK - I liked him - his game would have to change - feels like we are bringing in much of the same but people want moves for moves sake so why not.
I would bet this group doesn't make or break us and keeps us status quo once the energy of new faces wears off. as long as we arent sending pics out. _________________ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDfvXWXvpeb/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== |
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emplay Site Staff

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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Day'Ron is a big-a&& dude - physical, but no, he's not 7-ft tall. He's in shoes about 6'10.5" but 265. He's recovering from an injury so that's something I'd monitor before triggering.
Milton is a better shooter than DLo this season - not the same PG - but DLo is really struggling this year on many fronts, mostly on defense, but also in playing off ball (which is why they moved him to the bench - defense and his role diminished with Austin a greater priority to the coaching staff).
Moore is filler - not in the trade for more than just making it work legally - but he has a pulse and maybe could help. _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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emplay Site Staff

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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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This is NOT some crazy headline winning trade for the Lakers - but it does focus more on depth where they need it than just getting a "name"
Like Cam Johnson is a good shooter who is always hurt, a tweener on defense (in a bad way) and super expensive.
I wouldn't give 2 firsts but it's the kind of deal I could see LA caving to with 2 firsts - and it does achieve that goal of making the team better _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Halflife Franchise Player

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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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emplay wrote: | Day'Ron is a big-a&& dude - physical, but no, he's not 7-ft tall. He's in shoes about 6'10.5" but 265. He's recovering from an injury so that's something I'd monitor before triggering.
Milton is a better shooter than DLo this season - not the same PG - but DLo is really struggling this year on many fronts, mostly on defense, but also in playing off ball (which is why they moved him to the bench - defense and his role diminished with Austin a greater priority to the coaching staff).
Moore is filler - not in the trade for more than just making it work legally - but he has a pulse and maybe could help. |
I get it but we are the team shooters go to die - I just don't see dayron living at our pace - I don't know enough about nets and maybe he will do fine but he is just a space filler which wont do much IMHO. But I'm not Pelinka so who knows. _________________ https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDfvXWXvpeb/?igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== |
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm ok with trying anything as this just ain't working..
if you want some Cap space to Rebuild, trade BRONNY, which would ensure LeBron gets out after the season...lol |
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1995Lakers Star Player

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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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This is the kind of dont move the needle, Rob Pelinka is a joke and will cave kind of deals that give the Lakers FO a bad name. 2 firsts and not even Cam Johnson.....not even the incompetent GMs from the 90s like Calipari, Pitino and Elgin Baylor would make this kind of trade. |
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slavavov Star Player

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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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If Sharpe is the kind of defensive-minded big who will be a beast on the boards, I like this idea, although I don't want to give up two FRPs for this package. That sounds a bit too steep considering who we're getting, but we have to consider every possible deal.
Schroder could help us if Redick turns him loose in transition and he keeps up his good 3-point shooting. Milton could play the role Lonnie Walker IV did in 2023.
In this deal, we keep Rui Hachimura, who I'm reluctant to give up.
Our roster after this trade:
PG - Schroder/Reaves/Olivari?
SG - Knecht/Milton
SF - Hachimura/Finney-Smith/Vanderbilt
PF - LeBron/Hachimura/Finney-Smith
C - AD/Sharpe/Wood?
This would be a much better roster than what we have now. We would get rid of two of our slowest, least-athletic guys in Russell and Vincent.
I think I'd prefer to just get Schroder and DFS from the Nets at a lower price and then trade Vincent and second-round picks for Valanciunas. Maybe we could then consider bringing back Walker from overseas if the salary cap would allow us to. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player


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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Two 1sts for a player with a P-opt and another on an expiring? |
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cital Star Player

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 8:37 am Post subject: |
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There is no way I give up the picks. I just want to rebuild and add picks. I'm fine with the players involved, but I just don't believe it would make us contenders at all, and if it doesn't make us true contenders, why would we give up 2 first round picks.
Also, we give up 2 first round picks but don't get back a player that can move forward with AD as a cornerstone. Just not worth it. |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Trading 2 1st (that's way out and we will be rebuilding) to move us up to a 48 win team instead of a 44 win team. Yeah it's a hard no for me. _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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TMG Star Player

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Trade Lebron and AD so people can finally have DLO be the star on this team. |
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manlisten Star Player

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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An 11 man trade of bench players headlined by Dennis Schroeder. Would be the biggest trade since 2005. I get that this is just speculative reporting but maybe it could be more realistic? This is the kind of proposal you'd see in the free agency thread. _________________ It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points." |
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tox Franchise Player

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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | Trading 2 1st (that's way out and we will be rebuilding) to move us up to a 48 win team instead of a 44 win team. Yeah it's a hard no for me. |
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Runway8 Franchise Player


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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Every year, Lakers need to dump picks to "salvage" a season. This proposal dumps two remaining 1st picks to invest in an even older Lebron. Enough is enough.... Lebron is done. Enjoy his farewell tour, but stop investing in him. _________________ Westside Knecht gang, Knecht gang, bing-bing bang! |
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A Mad Chinaman Star Player

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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Interesting proposal that borders on trading just for trading without actually "Moving the Needle."
There will be other opportunities and considering the financial restrictions facing the Lakers, Rob has to be careful |
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governator Retired Number


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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Kinda disagree with everybody here. I think this trade balances the roster which maximizes AD, allowing the season to go forward even with injured Vando/Wood. We still have AR and Rui for lateral move type of trades next season. If we’re doing this farewell tour, might as well go for it _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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defense Retired Number

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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:36 am Post subject: |
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tox wrote: | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Trading 2 1st (that's way out and we will be rebuilding) to move us up to a 48 win team instead of a 44 win team. Yeah it's a hard no for me. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Emplay, what are your thoughts on the FO possibly pursuing a Butler trade to entice LeBron to stay? |
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Halflife Franchise Player

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Runway8 Franchise Player


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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:51 am Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Kinda disagree with everybody here. I think this trade balances the roster which maximizes AD, allowing the season to go forward even with injured Vando/Wood. We still have AR and Rui for lateral move type of trades next season. If we’re doing this farewell tour, might as well go for it |
I think the idea of trading away picks to get back former players when you could have just signed him in Schroder, a guy you did give a pick to acquire in his first stint... it is very inefficient and on brand with Pelinka regime. 2 picks to acquire Westbrook, 1 pick to get rid of Westbrook. It is nauseating.
To be fair, most of the talk around giving up 1st round picks to get back former players like Kuzma, Schroder.. so far, has been the thoughts of writers. I just hope it doesn't come true. Lebron and AD are a desert mirage, and Laker fans are thirsty. _________________ Westside Knecht gang, Knecht gang, bing-bing bang! |
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2024 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Emplay, what are your thoughts on the FO possibly pursuing a Butler trade to entice LeBron to stay? |
Miami is NOT helping LeBron
2 firsts and losing DLO? Pass.
There isn't a trade that will save this team expect the play in, and a first round exit. _________________ The most important shot in basketball. |
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emplay Site Staff

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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers can't pay for LeBron, AD and Jimmy and stay under the 2nd apron _________________ Salary Cap Strategist and Columnist at Bleacher Report and on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/EricPincus |
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Halflife Franchise Player

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Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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Are we on jb preferred list? I know he doesn’t have control but the players usually get their way |
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