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| Center Option? |
| Jonas Valančiūnas |
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10% |
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| Jakob Poeltl |
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10% |
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| Robert Williams III |
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5% |
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| Kelly Olynyk |
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| Walker Kessler |
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| Nick Richards |
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5% |
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| Nikola Vucevic |
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8% |
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| Other |
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| Don't trade for a center |
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Palin
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 Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:16 pm Post subject: Center options |
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| Which center would you wanna get? Or not trade for a center at all? |
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BILBJH
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd take any of these centers over Hayes but it all depends on price who I'd choose. |
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LakersRGolden
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Bam when Miami implodes.  |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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| BILBJH wrote: | | I'd take any of these centers over Hayes but it all depends on price who I'd choose. |
Jonas probably the best value there, or Richards if you don’t want to give up major role pieces. |
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LakerDynasty6.0
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judging from this forum and social media,
where's the option for "Dwight Howard"? 
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RI Laker
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Kelly Olynyk. |
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I picked Kessler, but in understanding that Utah wants a haul in return, my choice is a qualified "depends".
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| BILBJH wrote: | | I'd take any of these centers over Hayes but it all depends on price who I'd choose. |
Exactly, without trade values or scenarios I'm not sure what we're doing here. I really think the FO won't trade another 1st unless it's for a great fit or part of a deal for a stsr for better or worse. I loathe giving up 2 1sts for 24mpg of Kessler no matter that he is a good young player.
I think it will be 11th hour offers on deadline day with an expiring and JHS and a 2nd for a center. They won't hudge beyond that, with buyout time a possibility though they still need to deal a 2nd with someone to do that. |
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leking006
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1. Kessler
2. Poeltl
3. Val
But hoping Pelinka get Myles Turner  |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2025 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I think OP should include each players salary for a better result |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | Kelly Olynyk. |
+1
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| miggz23 wrote: | | BILBJH wrote: | | I'd take any of these centers over Hayes but it all depends on price who I'd choose. |
Jonas probably the best value there, or Richards if you don’t want to give up major role pieces. |
Same, agree ^^^
Voted for Richard for cost and Valanciunas 3pt implosion plus his lack of defense. I’d take Valanciunas tho, not spending more than 1FRP for Kessler tho and I like Vucevic but cost too high. RWIII lack of availability scares me off. Olynyk needs either better offense or better defense…or better rebounding…where he’s at it’s not enough umph in any one of those critical areas, even with the decent 3pt ball.
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| Halflife wrote: | | Bron/ad are one of the best pf/center-combo in the league |
This is where the debate is. Do you see the center for the 16mpg playoff minutes that most of these names would get behind AD...or do you see the saved regular season wear and tear by a better backup big than we have. |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Bron/ad are one of the best pf/center-combo in the league |
This is where the debate is. Do you see the center for the 16mpg playoff minutes that most of these names would get behind AD...or do you see the saved regular season wear and tear by a better backup big than we have. |
Ad is a 5 bron is a 4. Sitting AD for any of these guys makes us worse. We have bodies to throw out there at the 5 and we see what happens. aD running around the perimeter switching on guys won’t make him fresher. Kessler is a nice player but he won’t be that here. AD needs space. Congest the paint with another big body and bron is stuck jacking up fade away 3s. DFS is a bigger help to AD assuming his defense lives up to the hype.
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| Halflife wrote: | | fansincemagic wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Bron/ad are one of the best pf/center-combo in the league |
This is where the debate is. Do you see the center for the 16mpg playoff minutes that most of these names would get behind AD...or do you see the saved regular season wear and tear by a better backup big than we have. |
Ad is a 5 bron is a 4. Sitting AD for any of these guys makes us worse. We have bodies to throw out there at the 5 and we see what happens. aD running around the perimeter switching on guys won’t make him fresher. Kessler is a nice player but he won’t be that here. AD needs space. Congest the paint with another big body and bron is stuck jacking up fade away 3s. DFS is a bigger help to AD assuming his defense lives up to the hype. |
I get what you’re saying, and I also disagree with many that want to add a starting C, that starting C should be AD. What I think those fans that don’t put a priority on adding a C are missing however, is that the Lakers are dying during non-AD minutes. The ineffectiveness of bodies thrown out there at C for non-AD minutes are causing the Lakers to lose games. There needs to be an acquisition to the roster that limits the bleeding when AD is out…resting, load management, foul trouble, or whatever…who can also play with AD when LBJ is in/out.
AD spent some time at PF when the Lakers had Dwight/Magee…I know times have changed and the players are older but…that allowed the defense to look effective when AD was able to spend some time roaming at PF. It doesn’t take the place of AD at C, but AD being able to play the PF for limited minutes adds to the overall defense. I would think something like 24min at C, 8min at PF. That means tthe Lakers need a back up C capable of playing about 24min, who can man the fort for about 16 minutes when AD is out during a typical game, and perhaps 32 minutes when AD is load managed and misses a game.
There will be times when that back up C should be asked to spend more time at C so that AD can spend more time at PF for certain match ups, other times would require AD to spend extended minutes at C such that the back up C only play 10-12 minutes. Either way, unless the Lakers fix their problem of losing ground like a land slide…by adding a back up C…they won’t be able to legitimately present a ship roster.
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jb2
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Context matters with all these guys.. all good help in their own ways - some more than others - but what's the cost to acquire each because the prices ranges will be vastly different.
Kessler would likely be my choice being that he can be had without trying any other players other than JHS and brings the best defense. He also costs the most but perhaps you can get past that because (A) he's young and can be around for years (B) He's already near elite defender/rebounder status and will only get better and (C) we keep all our other pieces to have a truly DEEP squad.
Vuc is probably the easiest to acquire if we offer Rui, JHS, 2nd(s). He adds size, shooting, and rebounding.
RWIII is a great option but assuming Portland is willing to deal with us, and assuming the cost isn Vando + 2nds his health is still a major concern.
Jonas is cheap size but assumes Washington wants Vando |
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cathy78
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| Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Center options |
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| Palin wrote: | | Which center would you wanna get? Or not trade for a center at all? |
Are they for free? We have a center in AD, is this for backup purposes? Or just having more bodies clogging up the paint? |
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Walker Kessler. Age 23, salary 2025-2026: $4,878,938. He shoots .694 but doesn't take many shots. He can shoot the 3 but it's not in his repertoire. He can protect the rim. Do it Rob.
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | | Bam when Miami implodes. |
Riley's not gonna let that happen
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Shouldn’t give up anymore than JHS or min contract for this center. We can’t afford to lose any of our rotation players without replacing them.
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Pick dwight up. Wont have to give up any assets. No trades should be made where we give up assets. Pelinka needs to stand firm on that as this team has shown us nothing worth being optimistic about.
Go get Dwight or go get Javale.
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