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PostPosted: Wed Jan 22, 2025 5:34 pm    Post subject:

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I just got home from Solvang and the smoke and ash from the Hughes fire is so thick you can’t open your windows. Parts of the street look like it has a thin layer of snow on it.


Sorry to hear of this. The bad air quality is another major issue with these fires even for those not in evacuation areas.

Stay safe my friend...
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– Southern California is in the midst of what the National Weather Service describes as a “remarkably dry rainy season,” with much of the region experiencing a record or near-record slow start.

For the official water year, which is recorded between Oct. 1 and Sept. 30 of the following year, rainfall through Jan. 15 totaled only .16 of an inch for downtown Los Angeles, according to the Weather Service. That total is just 3% of the average 5.56 inches of rainfall for that period


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Now there's snow in Florida
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:27 am    Post subject:

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L.A. live fire updates: Hughes fire rages on as red flag warning continues into Thursday
The Hughes and Sepulveda fires are the latest blazes in a nerve-racking week as Southern California heads into a fourth consecutive day of red flag fire weather warnings.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 2:08 pm    Post subject:

I could see the Castaic fire smoke while driving yesterday. The fires just keep coming.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:46 pm    Post subject:

The winds were howling here in Northern San Diego County today and everything is bone dry.

Stay safe everyone, these conditions are brutal....time to do the rain dance.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:46 am    Post subject:

California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.
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California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.


It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.
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jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.



It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.


We had 25 and 28 inches of rain the last two years. Those are the two highest since 2004-2005. In 2006-2007 we had only 3.21 inches of rain which looks like the lowest on record. The online almanac I found only goes to 1877.

Have we had anything other than a drizzle this year? Hopefully we get a lot of rain on Sunday.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:08 pm    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.



It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.


We had 25 and 28 inches of rain the last two years. Those are the two highest since 2004-2005. In 2006-2007 we had only 3.21 inches of rain which looks like the lowest on record. The online almanac I found only goes to 1877.

Have we had anything other than a drizzle this year? Hopefully we get a lot of rain on Sunday.


Which would cause a bunch of mudslides in the burn areas . . . not that there's anything left to get damaged by them.
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CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.



It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.


We had 25 and 28 inches of rain the last two years. Those are the two highest since 2004-2005. In 2006-2007 we had only 3.21 inches of rain which looks like the lowest on record. The online almanac I found only goes to 1877.

Have we had anything other than a drizzle this year? Hopefully we get a lot of rain on Sunday.


Which would cause a bunch of mudslides in the burn areas . . . not that there's anything left to get damaged by them.


Well sheeit...
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CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.


It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.

yes- we were no longer considered in a drought.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:52 pm    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.


It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.

yes- we were no longer considered in a drought.


If only California had wanted to build additional reservoirs to take advantage of that rainfall. Oh wait, we did, Prop 1 in 2014. Unfortunately Sacramento has built nothing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:56 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Halflife wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.


It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.

yes- we were no longer considered in a drought.


If only California had wanted to build additional reservoirs to take advantage of that rainfall. Oh wait, we did, Prop 1 in 2014. Unfortunately Sacramento has built nothing.

Even baja is ahead of us in their quest to build desalination factories. The people that create the regulations whine about the regulations getting in the way.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:27 pm    Post subject:

Again, the extent of the damage had nothing to do with the lack of water. But by all means, don’t let facts get in the way of a false, politically driven narrative.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:29 pm    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
Halflife wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.


It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.

yes- we were no longer considered in a drought.


If only California had wanted to build additional reservoirs to take advantage of that rainfall. Oh wait, we did, Prop 1 in 2014. Unfortunately Sacramento has built nothing.


Meanwhile your guy rambled on about Joe Biden and dismantling FEMA while in a round table with LA city leaders about fire aid and rebuilding.....
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:38 am    Post subject:

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Again, the extent of the damage had nothing to do with the lack of water. But by all means, don’t let facts get in the way of a false, politically driven narrative.

I don’t think lack of water is the issue. It had more to do with not having the water resources. I think it was Brad Sherman who said if it were 3 houses on fire at once , it would not have been a problem. 100 houses a problem but that’s for every community.

There was no saving palisades with those winds, density, location and structures built in the 60/70s.

The only thing that should be done is cut red tape and elevate building codes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 9:01 am    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jonnybravo wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.



It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.


We had 25 and 28 inches of rain the last two years. Those are the two highest since 2004-2005. In 2006-2007 we had only 3.21 inches of rain which looks like the lowest on record. The online almanac I found only goes to 1877.

Have we had anything other than a drizzle this year? Hopefully we get a lot of rain on Sunday.


Which would cause a bunch of mudslides in the burn areas . . . not that there's anything left to get damaged by them.


Well sheeit...


It’s also going to cause toxic runoff as the rain water picks up the hazardous materials.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:13 am    Post subject:

We don’t want it to pour.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:15 am    Post subject:

You don't have to worry about the rain its not projected to be a big storm. But yeah, politics aside they should be doing cleanup ASAP. All you need is more Santa Ana winds and that stuff will be blown up into the air once again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 10:33 am    Post subject:

They were using dirt mullholland as an acces point and you can see where they did a lot of preemptive brush clearing in fire prone areas. Something we have been asking for for years as has the LAFD. So hopefully our local government learned and will actually use some resources to start doing that.

There is no reason most houses should ever be threatened in calabassas, TO, WH, Tarzana, parts of Malibu, north hills etc.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 12:39 pm    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.



It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.


We had 25 and 28 inches of rain the last two years. Those are the two highest since 2004-2005. In 2006-2007 we had only 3.21 inches of rain which looks like the lowest on record. The online almanac I found only goes to 1877.

Have we had anything other than a drizzle this year? Hopefully we get a lot of rain on Sunday.


It’s beginning to sprinkle here. Big drops.
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venturalakersfan wrote:
Halflife wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.


It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.

yes- we were no longer considered in a drought.


If only California had wanted to build additional reservoirs to take advantage of that rainfall. Oh wait, we did, Prop 1 in 2014. Unfortunately Sacramento has built nothing.


Meanwhile your guy rambled on about Joe Biden and dismantling FEMA while in a round table with LA city leaders about fire aid and rebuilding.....


Who is my guy?
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Again, the extent of the damage had nothing to do with the lack of water. But by all means, don’t let facts get in the way of a false, politically driven narrative.


If you think that building reservoirs to preserve rainfall is political then it’s easy to see where the problem is.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 1:39 pm    Post subject:

My post concerning California turning from wetland to desert was long term.
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California is indeed experiencing a significant transformation from a wetland-rich state to a more desert-like environment, primarily due to human activities like development and agriculture which have led to the draining and destruction of vast areas of wetlands, resulting in a loss of over 90% of its original wetland ecosystems
We've had a record amount of rain the last two years. We may have some today. I hope we get it. LINK Fires in the area burning are being fuled by dry acreage and spread by wind and embers
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2025 3:05 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
jodeke wrote:
California was once a wetter landscape but has since dried out and become a desert. When fires start here there is plenty of dry fuel to feed it.


It feels like just two years ago (or even last year) there were unprecedented rainstorms and flooding.


There was massive rainfall. Too bad our great leaders let it flow into the ocean.
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