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ocho
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:10 pm Post subject: QFTOS: Luka Returns to Dallas Edition |
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| Quote: | | I hope Luka drops at least 50 |
| Quote: | | I still haven’t emotionally recovered from this, I will never recover from this. Luka was my favorite player and now he plays for not only my least favorite basketball but also my second least favorite sports franchise. (bleep) you Nico Harrison and Patrick Dumont. |
| Quote: | Obligatory (bleep) Nico, (bleep) the Adelsons, sell the team.
Long live #77 |
| Quote: | | Nico will be hiding in an underground cave tonight surrounded by security |
| Quote: | | Fire Nico at the TOP of everyone’s lungs. They can not kick out 20k people. |
| Quote: | | This day should’ve never (bleep) happened. |
| Quote: | | Why we trade this mans |
| Quote: | | I hate this organization so much |
| Quote: | | Like a knife in the heart watching this. |
| Quote: | | I will never forgive these miserable (bleep), I will never forget. |
| Quote: | | Luka hitting the step back three over AD. Fitting. |
| Quote: | | He's crushing us. Good for him, hope he gets 77. |
| Quote: | | AD is a ghost meanwhile Luka has more than half their team's points lmfao |
| Quote: | | Jesus he is putting Lively in a (bleep) blender |
| Quote: | | Luka and Doe-Doe chemistry is so beautiful man |
| Quote: | | I hope the Lakers win |
| Quote: | | Cook us Luka burn us to a crisp |
| Quote: | | Is it just me or does AD look like he doesn’t give a (bleep) tonight? He is playing like he’s in slow motion and we traded for him LOL |
| Quote: | | Luka just taking turns cooking everybody |
| Quote: | | AD looking lost out there |
| Quote: | | Luka has 21 and counting. AD has 2 points. Defense wins championships but offense is pretty (bleep) important too |
| Quote: | | They can’t stop Luka. Embarrassing |
| Quote: | | JJ Reddick owns JMidd |
| Quote: | | They are just toying with our “defensive” team |
| Quote: | | Getting cooked by LeBron sigh |
| Quote: | | Has AD even attempted to defend LeBron once this game this dude is so soft holy (bleep) |
| Quote: | | Gawd damn Luka, what a shot. |
| Quote: | | Luka dagger. Poetic ❤️ |
| Quote: | | It's ok yall. Defense win championships |
| Quote: | | Luka’s statline: 45/8/6/fat…apparently |
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TMG
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
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drae
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:16 pm Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
Nah, Nico and the new owner screwed them. They're extremely bitter and have every right to be. AD is copping unwarranted flak but this is the end of the Mavericks for a decade for real real.
An entire city betrayed by 2 people who thought they were the smartest people in the room |
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TMG
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
Nah, Nico and the new owner screwed them. They're extremely bitter and have every right to be. AD is copping unwarranted flak but this is the end of the Mavericks for a decade for real real.
An entire city betrayed by 2 people who thought they were the smartest people in the room |
3 months of crapping on a player who had nothing to do with it is (bleep) behavior. Acting as if he's trash is ridiculous. He's never gonna be accepted. He should go to a team that would love to have him instead.
I have no sympathy for dallas fans anymore.
I dont care how heartbroken you are over the trade. |
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drae
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | | drae wrote: | | TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
Nah, Nico and the new owner screwed them. They're extremely bitter and have every right to be. AD is copping unwarranted flak but this is the end of the Mavericks for a decade for real real.
An entire city betrayed by 2 people who thought they were the smartest people in the room |
3 months of crapping on a player who had nothing to do with it is (bleep) behavior. Acting as if he's trash is ridiculous. He's never gonna be accepted. He should go to a team that would love to have him instead.
I have no sympathy for dallas fans anymore.
I dont care how heartbroken you are over the trade. |
Everything is relative. Nothing exists in a vacuum. Saying AD is trash compared to a normal NBA player is incorrect, saying he's bad compared with Luka is pretty accurate. Especially in the modern NBA. |
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TMG
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | TMG wrote: | | drae wrote: | | TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
Nah, Nico and the new owner screwed them. They're extremely bitter and have every right to be. AD is copping unwarranted flak but this is the end of the Mavericks for a decade for real real.
An entire city betrayed by 2 people who thought they were the smartest people in the room |
3 months of crapping on a player who had nothing to do with it is (bleep) behavior. Acting as if he's trash is ridiculous. He's never gonna be accepted. He should go to a team that would love to have him instead.
I have no sympathy for dallas fans anymore.
I dont care how heartbroken you are over the trade. |
Everything is relative. Nothing exists in a vacuum. Saying AD is trash compared to a normal NBA player is incorrect, saying he's bad compared with Luka is pretty accurate. Especially in the modern NBA. |
AD is top 10 player in this league  It's not accurate to call him a bad player compared to Luka. Luka is much better of course.
Again if thats the mentality. All the more reason to leave. They'll never accept him and he's far too great of a player to stay with a fanbase who'll never accept him. |
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Runway8
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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s it just me or does AD look like he doesn’t give a (bleep) tonight? He is playing like he’s in slow motion and we traded for him LOL
Laker fans asked that question many nights. That is why he never took the reigns from Lebron. AD was more engaged this year, but his lack of engagement was a real thing. Playoff AD was a real thing.. we had to wait for the playoffs to see monster AD. The problem with that strategy was that we were in the play ins year after year. We wouldn't be in the play-ins if Monster AD was a regular season thing. Combine that with Lebron's strategic coasting due to his age.. I'm happy those days are over.
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drae
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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AD is top 10 player in this league It's not accurate to call him a bad player compared to Luka. Luka is much better of course.
Again if thats the mentality. All the more reason to leave. They'll never accept him and he's far too great of a player to stay with a fanbase who'll never accept him. |
AD isn't a top 10 player in the league. He can't space the floor so you can't play him at his natural 4 position, and he can't take on the more physical centers one on one. He stops the ball. He isos in the midrange like it's the 1990s. He can't take over a game. His rim defense is neutralized by modern 5 out ball. |
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TMG
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | TMG wrote: |
AD is top 10 player in this league It's not accurate to call him a bad player compared to Luka. Luka is much better of course.
Again if thats the mentality. All the more reason to leave. They'll never accept him and he's far too great of a player to stay with a fanbase who'll never accept him. |
AD isn't a top 10 player in the league. He can't space the floor so you can't play him at his natural 4 position, and he can't take on the more physical centers one on one. He stops the ball. He isos in the midrange like it's the 1990s. He can't take over a game. His rim defense is neutralized by modern 5 out ball. |
Alright dude. |
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hype
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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ngl i'd be BEYOND livid as a Dallas fan watching that trash performance while the guy literally crying before the game is 10 times more locked in and goes for a near 50 point triple double while hardly breaking a sweat. They know damn well they're watching a final Season or two of possibly being good versus an entire Decade from a top 2 player. AD didn't give them too much to cheer for him either if we're being honest while Luka was delivering oohs and ahhs damn near every single minute he was on the court.
I personally know two life long Maverick fans and they both appreciate AD for sure but he's sure as hell never been and never will be at Luka's overall level not to mention the entertainment factor.. They went from must watch tv like Lakers are now to meh overnight. Ofc fans aren't happy....
You got Grimes and Brunson taken away from them stupidly as well so while the frustration is mostly about Luka it goes well beyond just him imo.
Thanks for the quotes though ocho, great as usual  |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Runway8 wrote: | s it just me or does AD look like he doesn’t give a (bleep) tonight? He is playing like he’s in slow motion and we traded for him LOL
Laker fans asked that question many nights. That is why he never took the reins from Lebron. AD was more engaged this year, but his lack of engagement was a real thing. Playoff AD was a real thing.. we had to wait for the playoffs to see monster AD. The problem with that strategy was that we were in the play ins year after year. We wouldn't be in the play-ins if Monster AD was a regular season thing. Combine that with Lebron's strategic coasting due to his age.. I'm happy those days are over. |
No lies were told here. |
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TMG
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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| hype wrote: | ngl i'd be BEYOND livid as a Dallas fan watching that trash performance while the guy literally crying before the game is 10 times more locked in and goes for a near 50 point triple double while hardly breaking a sweat. They know damn well they're watching a final Season or two of possibly being good versus an entire Decade from a top 2 player. AD didn't give them too much to cheer for him either if we're being honest while Luka was delivering oohs and ahhs damn near every single minute he was on the court.
I personally know two life long Maverick fans and they both appreciate AD for sure but he's sure as hell never been and never will be at Luka's overall level not to mention the entertainment factor.. They went from must watch tv like Lakers are now to meh overnight. Ofc fans aren't happy....
You got Grimes and Brunson taken away from them stupidly as well so while the frustration is mostly about Luka it goes well beyond just him imo.
Thanks for the quotes though ocho, great as usual |
Ain't no way if im AD i'd want to be stuck on that team playing for that fanbase. I hope he leaves asap. |
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hype
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | | hype wrote: | ngl i'd be BEYOND livid as a Dallas fan watching that trash performance while the guy literally crying before the game is 10 times more locked in and goes for a near 50 point triple double while hardly breaking a sweat. They know damn well they're watching a final Season or two of possibly being good versus an entire Decade from a top 2 player. AD didn't give them too much to cheer for him either if we're being honest while Luka was delivering oohs and ahhs damn near every single minute he was on the court.
I personally know two life long Maverick fans and they both appreciate AD for sure but he's sure as hell never been and never will be at Luka's overall level not to mention the entertainment factor.. They went from must watch tv like Lakers are now to meh overnight. Ofc fans aren't happy....
You got Grimes and Brunson taken away from them stupidly as well so while the frustration is mostly about Luka it goes well beyond just him imo.
Thanks for the quotes though ocho, great as usual |
Ain't no way if im AD i'd want to be stuck on that team playing for that fanbase. I hope he leaves asap. |
Same, I agree with that for sure! Selfishly i'd love to see him go to an East team (def. NO Celtics though!). He might not be quite that guy to become the all out franchise player especially at his age now but he can still be a massive part of a good Contender without question. |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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AD most likely ask for a trade and maybe along with Kyrie and Klay this offseason...
Dallas can probably get multiple 1st for AD if they trade him this offseason... OKC and Knicks makes sense specially if both teams flame out in the playoffs. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2025 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
Nothing to do with Mavs fans. It's their owners and Nico being incompetent buffoons. Even Cuban said he wasn't consulted and would not have okayed trade, which tells you everything. They don't hate AD nearly as much as Nico.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
Dallas fans are not (bleep). They're still in shock, especially after seeing Luka, and the way he played yesterday. They're still mourning about the trade. One of the process steps when grieving and in mourning is anger.
All I had to do is imagine our FO doing the exact same thing Dallas did and I'm filled with empathy for their fans. I said empathy, not sympathy. I'd be angry, hurt, and absolutely confused.
Hell, we're confused on this side of the trade and we're the beneficiaries!
"I hope the Lakers win" was a post by a Dallas fan. That tells you how deep the pain goes.
Excellent job as always, thanks ocho!!!! |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
How would this fan base fared if we had traded 25 year old Kobe? |
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ocho
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| Laker Hefe wrote: | | TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
How would this fan base fared if we had traded 25 year old Kobe? |
For an older player who wasn’t nearly as good.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Ocho, always a good laugh!
I do hope AD has a real future somewhere, NY, Philly, even Miami would be good for him. No Thunder, Warriors, or Celtics though!!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 11:55 am Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | Laker Hefe wrote: | | TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
How would this fan base fared if we had traded 25 year old Kobe? |
For an older player who wasn’t nearly as good. |
Right after he'd taken the team to the Finals. Without notice and without trying to get maximum value in return.
I'd probably go on hiatus. Those poor fans. And lucky us. |
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gng930
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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AD got the same hate with Laker fans when you picked out random comments. AD plays a very unspectacular game that generally is less visible and can come off as passive. He doesn't have the raw power that leads to rim-rattling dunks like Lebron or the flare of a Luka Doncic. In a game with more than 100 possessions, it's easy to overlook the otherwise unmemorable open jumper, lay-in, or offensive rebound. He's "just" someone with a unique combination of size, skill, mobility, and length who can be relentless doing the dirty work of covering the court or dominating the boards on both ends while also being able to score in a variety of ways, albeit mostly unspectacular.
That said, he definitely doesn't have that alpha mentality and also posted some anemic numbers yesterday. Hard to say if he's still feeling effects of the injury but when you're replacing a mega-alpha like Luka, the fan reaction from last night isn't surprising. Doesn't help that they lost the closest thing they have to an alpha (Kyrie) for this and probably next season.
On another note, I so miss Christie. What stood out to me was the times he was able to stifle Luka 1:1 and that block on Vando's lob attempt right after having his ankles broken by Austin. Amazing recovery ability.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| gng930 wrote: | | On another note, I so miss Christie. |
Get him back, in a few years. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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AD come back bb
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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Ad was great in NO. He was legit amazig and has been since high school. But with the miles on him now…his style leads to injuries. His frail frame does not help anymore like when he was younger and faster and could trust his body more and take more punishmet. We cant rely on him to stay healthy otherwise he is still a great player and a decent dude.
You never know knew when he would tweak something and these days a minor think took him weeks to return. Then he was inconsistant till his next injury.
And this is LA. If you can trade shaq you can trade anybodynot named kobe.
And luka is this gens magic. Even if davis was less injury prone, this would be a decent trade.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2025 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Laker Hefe wrote: | | TMG wrote: | Just more proof that Dallas fans are (bleep).
LEAVE AD ASAP!
Let them see how fun it'll be when they've got Dimwiddie leading that team to 6 straight lotteries. |
How would this fan base fared if we had traded 25 year old Kobe? |
Very poorly!
Blasphemy!
I have no idea what Dallas was doing but hopefully we add Jokic also.
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