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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:12 pm    Post subject: Time to abolish Play-In Games...

It's BS that a team 8 games out of 8th seed have a chance to knock out any team in the 7th and 8th seed... Imagine you work hard all season to get with in top 8, and get knocked out due to a team getting hot for 1 game. Also you have to play an extra game or 2 and some gets injured. (I believe Butler got hurt last season during play-in)

Just go back to the old format and stretch the season another week to get rid of back to back games late in the season.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Time to abolish Play-In Games...

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It's BS that a team 8 games out of 8th seed have a chance to knock out any team in the 7th and 8th seed... Imagine you work hard all season to get with in top 8, and get knocked out due to a team getting hot for 1 game. Also you have to play an extra game or 2 and some gets injured. (I believe Butler got hurt last season during play-in)

Just go back to the old format and stretch the season another week to get rid of back to back games late in the season.


They want to promote more competition, less tanking if teams feel they can make the playoffs. Or, do some sort of compromise. Like the Play-Ins doesn't happen every year, and it doesn't have to happen for both conferences. For example, you can set a deadline that by March 10th or whatever, if the 9th place team is not within 5 games, then there will be no play-ins. This year the West had a clear cut top 8, there was no need for a play-in. Only play-ins for the East.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 9:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Time to abolish Play-In Games...

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It's BS that a team 8 games out of 8th seed have a chance to knock out any team in the 7th and 8th seed... Imagine you work hard all season to get with in top 8, and get knocked out due to a team getting hot for 1 game. Also you have to play an extra game or 2 and some gets injured. (I believe Butler got hurt last season during play-in)

Just go back to the old format and stretch the season another week to get rid of back to back games late in the season.


They want to promote more competition, less tanking if teams feel they can make the playoffs. Or, do some sort of compromise. Like the Play-Ins doesn't happen every year, and it doesn't have to happen for both conferences. For example, you can set a deadline that by March 10th or whatever, if the 9th place team is not within 5 games, then there will be no play-ins. This year the West had a clear cut top 8, there was no need for a play-in. Only play-ins for the East.


Yup, DAL/SAC/POR would've been tanking. POR has been winning games lately knowing they had a chance still.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:03 pm    Post subject:

There should be a rule that if the 9th seed is more than 5 games behind the 8th than there are no play-in games for that conference.

Would never happen though. The league wants to squeeze every dollar out of the season.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Time to abolish Play-In Games...

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Runway8 wrote:
miggz23 wrote:
It's BS that a team 8 games out of 8th seed have a chance to knock out any team in the 7th and 8th seed... Imagine you work hard all season to get with in top 8, and get knocked out due to a team getting hot for 1 game. Also you have to play an extra game or 2 and some gets injured. (I believe Butler got hurt last season during play-in)

Just go back to the old format and stretch the season another week to get rid of back to back games late in the season.


They want to promote more competition, less tanking if teams feel they can make the playoffs. Or, do some sort of compromise. Like the Play-Ins doesn't happen every year, and it doesn't have to happen for both conferences. For example, you can set a deadline that by March 10th or whatever, if the 9th place team is not within 5 games, then there will be no play-ins. This year the West had a clear cut top 8, there was no need for a play-in. Only play-ins for the East.


Yup, DAL/SAC/POR would've been tanking. POR has been winning games lately knowing they had a chance still.


This^^^

Also, the 7th and 8th haven’t earned anything substantial imo. They rarely even win more than a game and almost never win a series. They are participant trophy candidates only except for the strike shortened season and the Covid shortened season. Make them prove they are better than the best bottom dwellers and that they belong in the playoffs. If they…the 7th/8th in the end standings…can’t prove they are better than 9th/10th by beating them in the play in then the NBA might as well let 9th/10th to have a shot and gain some playoff experience to be encouraging for the next upcoming year.

This year in the West is a bit different I get that. But it is rare to have 8 decent teams and the East is the poster for what I’m saying. Atl/Orl don’t deserve any more than Chi/Mia, all are imposters either way. Plus, even in the West, Dal has a case for being giving a fight chance due to injuries.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 pm    Post subject:

Lakeshow23_ wrote:
There should be a rule that if the 9th seed is more than 5 games behind the 8th than there are no play-in games for that conference.

Would never happen though. The league wants to squeeze every dollar out of the season.


That's a good thought but I'm not sure that makes a difference this (or any) year. Pretty sure the 9 seed is generally within 5 games of the 8 seed.

EDIT: I am wrong. It would have applied in the West this year and a handful of times other years between the two conferences. It’s a good thought like I said and worth looking into.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:18 pm    Post subject:

If lakers is the 9th seed, you would probably have a different opinion
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 11:01 pm    Post subject:

I even feel like the first round should just be a sudden death play-in game, or best of three. Would give the lower seed a bigger chance to pull off an upset.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:22 am    Post subject:

I think it would be more important to get rid of the conferences. That east thing is a joke...
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:32 am    Post subject:

The play-in tournament allows teams that finish under .500 to make the playoffs. I really think that a team with a losing record doesn't deserve to make the playoffs.

It could also give teams who aren't that good but aren't bad an excuse to be lazy for half the season and wait until late in the schedule to start playing hard.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:43 am    Post subject:

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I even feel like the first round should just be a sudden death play-in game, or best of three. Would give the lower seed a bigger chance to pull off an upset.


That's how it used to be. The 1993 playoffs still hurts. We took both road games in Phoenix. Thought we were about to upset Barkley and the Suns. But lost both home games, then gave them all they could handle in game 5 in Phoenix. They had to hit some miraculous shots to beat us.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 2:33 am    Post subject:

Let me enjoy it from the outside first for once.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:02 am    Post subject:

Nah, let teams get upset. I they don't want the jeopardy, they should do better and avoid it, or back themselves to win the game. Makes things more interesting in general.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:40 am    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
I even feel like the first round should just be a sudden death play-in game, or best of three. Would give the lower seed a bigger chance to pull off an upset.


That's how it used to be. The 1993 playoffs still hurts. We took both road games in Phoenix. Thought we were about to upset Barkley and the Suns. But lost both home games, then gave them all they could handle in game 5 in Phoenix. They had to hit some miraculous shots to beat us.


I remember watching the Lakers lose to the Houston Rockets in the best of three. The playoff format was changed to the best of five the following year. The league wanted Bird vs Magic, however Moses had different plans.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 8:53 am    Post subject:

Compromise with 8 vs 9 for the last spot.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 12:47 pm    Post subject:

Now that we're not in it, it's time to get rid of it? lol
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 1:42 pm    Post subject:

It's useful for us this year cuz it gives us extra rest. I know all playoff teams get the same rest but it benefits us more because old man Bron needs the rest more than anyone.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:43 pm    Post subject:

I like it.. it's better for the overall quality of regular season games.

Think about how critical the last couple of weeks worth of games have been to stay out of the play-in.

It's a great addition to the league.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:49 am    Post subject:

SGSD32 wrote:
I like it.. it's better for the overall quality of regular season games.

Think about how critical the last couple of weeks worth of games have been to stay out of the play-in.

It's a great addition to the league.


Ya there’s no going back, it makes the last few weeks of the regular season watchable.

Also, there’s no way Silver ever tries to improve the NBA by having LESS games.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 10:57 am    Post subject:

“Time to eliminate more revenue” said no sports executive ever.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:08 am    Post subject:

venturalakersfan wrote:
“Time to eliminate more revenue” said no sports executive ever.


This is exactly what this is about and why it won't go away. The NBA is searching for new revenue streams and more playoff games equals more money. Its the same reason why MLB has added more teams to their postseason and why there are more NFL teams eligible for wild card spots these days.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:41 am    Post subject:

Nahhhhh. I like the play in games.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 11:41 am    Post subject:

lakersfan8 wrote:
If lakers is the 9th seed, you would probably have a different opinion


For some of us, not necessarily. I wouldn't because the fact that we're the 9th seed in that scenario means we weren't very good from the jump.

I rather have a better drafting position than to later inevitably get beat by a superior team.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 12:56 pm    Post subject:

Yeah, not a fan of teams with 43 or 45 losses getting into the Playoffs. This ain't 1986 when the 30-52 Bulls got in.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 4:58 pm    Post subject:

We just witnessed a game 7 like enviroment and probably the best game in the regular season all because of the play-in

Play-in are the best thing thats happened to the NBA in a damn good while.

We got to the WCF from the play-ins.

Heat went to the finals from the play in.
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