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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: SONICS -at- LAKERS -- 3/12 -- Thoughts and :-(( ratings

Frustration... This game had all the enjoyment of getting a flat tire on your way to work. Kobe was frustrated all 48 minutes and our Laker bigmen were getting beat down the floor for dunk after dunk in transition. In addition to not getting the W, Chris Mihm came down with an injury in the last minute.

The Lakers gave up .595 percent shooting to the Sonics and 120 points. How are you going to win with defense like that? We also shot too many three's again, going 11-28 from beyond the arc. The Sonics made every effort to push their transition game and shooting threes only played into that. They won the fastbreak battle 24-12.

Luke Walton led the Lakers off the bench with 17 points on 7-7 shooting, including 10 points in the fourth quarter...but we wasted his game. The Lakers need to regroup and dig in for the next game.


Kobe -- -- He was frustrated the entire night and even gave Sasha an elbow on the bench. This time there was no strong fourth quarter finish. Kobe scored just 22 points on 8-29 and a poor 2-13 from three. He only shot 4-5 from the line, upset and complaining on shots throughout the game. With his game off, he was looking to set up others quite a bit. He led the Lakers with 7 assists and actually could have had quite a few more had Cook been knocking down some open ones he usually hits. His D was solid anytime he was matched up with Ray Allen. Kobe, again, started the game not taking shots. Midway through the first quarter he tried to turn on his offense and missed his first 5 shots. He seems to be trying to save his legs for the fourth quarter and let his teammates get involved early. The minutes may be catching up to him a little... He set up Mihm for a dunk when he attacked and fed him under the hoop. He set up Luke for a three on a drive and kick at the end of the first quarter. He dove for a loose ball on D and got tied up for a jumpball with a quick whistle. He got his first score on an open three at the start of the second quarter. He pulled up in transition, shortly later and swished another three. He missed a long three and his man busted down court for an easy score (the third three in a row never seems to drop for Kobe). He missed his next three attempt. He had another turnover on the perimeter that resulted in an And-1 the other way. Phil then sat him with 7:41 in the second. Back a minute later, he ran a backdoor lob, drew a foul but didn't get the continuation call. He dunked off a backdoor lob pass from Lamar. He sliced through the lane and scooped up a layup. He fed Smush on the break between his legs for a throwdown. He sank a long wing jumper with his toe on the line. He missed another three, we got it back and he missed badly on a drive. He missed a running three at the buzzer. He had 12 points on 5-16 shooting and 5 turnovers in the first half. He blocked Allen on a jumper. He faked left, faked right and hit a short jumper in the post. He made a tech FT. He stripped the ball off Allen's leg. Strong cut down the lane, got the pass then fed Mihm for a layup. More great D on Allen, getting a miss in the post. On the other end he attacked and hit Cook (who had just missed two other Kobe kickouts), but this time Cook knocked it down. He kicked it to Cook again and he missed. He kicked it to Sasha at the wing and he hit a three. Kobe attacked three times in a row, missed on all three and griped at the refs on all three. He was 6-22 after three quarters. Down by 9 points with 8:43, Kobe returned to the game after sitting out the start of the fourth. He attacked along the baseline and scored a reverse layup around the help D. Good D on Allen on the other end to force a brick. He missed a three, got the ball back from Luke, attacked the baseline and reverse dunked with both hands. He drew some FTs in the last minute. He missed three more threes as the game was out of reach.

Odom -- -- Lamar had an efficient 21 points on 6-9 shooting and 6 assists. Phil called his number in the post a couple of times out of timeouts, making a point of getting him the ball in the post. Lamar had no defensive boards and 2 offensive boards. He grabbed a Kobe miss and went back up strong, finishing the And-1 with his right, and making the FT. He found Kobe for an alley-oop dunk. Rashard scooped in a layup on one end, Lamar attacked on the other and scooped in a layup of his own. He set up Mihm for FTs on the two-man game. He didn't take a three out of the offense and it resulted in a three-second violation by others (again, when he passes up shots it throws off the offense). He posted up again out of a timeout and drew FTs, making both. Huge, huge three by Lamar with 1:23 to cut a six point lead to just three.

Mihm -- -- The big news out of the game was Chris coming down hard on his ankle in the last minute and needing to be helped into the locker room. His last minute on the floor wasn't good in multiple ways. Chris was having a great night offensively, scoring 20 points on 7-15 shooting and 6-8 from the line to go with 13 rbeounds and 3 blocks. A great statline. What isn't shown in the statline was Chris getting killed in transition D for multiple dunks or a putback score and a dunk by Wilcox in the final minute. Those simply killed us. Mihm was in the mix good and bad on both ends right out of the gate. He took a post entry, Petro was out of position reaching and Mihm spun the other way for a layup. He got a high lob pass from Smush, grabbed it and dunked. He dunked off a feed from Kobe. He threwdown a putback jam off a Kobe miss. He grabbed a miss by Lamar on the next trip down and drew FTs, he made both. Swift got back to back dunks in transition (Mihm didn't get help on one break and didn't cut off the lane on the other). He drew FTs again on the other end, making both. He took a kickout from Kwame and swished a baseline jumper. That was all in the first quarter, when he had 14 points. He got beat again in transition for a dunk. He drew Wilcox's third foul on the other end with some aggressive play on the glass, he made both FTs. He picked up Wilcox's fourth foul early in the third on an attack, he missed both FTs. He scored a layup off a nice cut and pass by Kobe. He dunked when Cook found him from the floor after scrambling for a loose ball. Huge missed a huge box out when the lead was just three with a minute left, and Wilcox got a putback score. We had the stop and could have went to the other end to trail by one or tie the game...instead we were down five. In transition after breaking the press, Wilcox dunked over Mihm and Chris came down hard, twisting his ankle. Insult to injury, for sure.

Smush -- 8) -- Decent game from Smush, I don't think you can expect too much more at this stage in his career. A guy like Watson would make a nice duo with Smush, and Buss mentioned the need for help at the guard spot during the game. Smush scored 15 points on 6-13 shooting and had 5 assists with just 1 turnover in 33 minutes. He gave a high lob entry to Mihm who grabbed it and dunked. He telegraphed a pass and it went for a dunk the other way. He threwdown a huge dunk, trailing Kobe on the break. He was then called for holding before the inbounds pass and had to sit with his third foul of the first half. He swished a three straight away in semi-transition. He attacked off the pick and roll on the next play, used his speed and scored a layup. Sweet, sweet finish on the break, getting a pass from Kobe, Smush got past his man and reversed underneath two help defenders for the score (should have been an And-1). He picked up his fourth foul onthe perimeter midway through the third and had to sit. He posted up Watson and drew FTs. He caused a turnover on Watson on the other end. He hit a teardrop in the lane. He missed a wide open three and then Watson hit a wide open three on the other end. Huge sequence as Seattle went up by 10 in the middle of the fourth. Great D with Luke in the backcourt to get a turnover on Watson. Another big sequence, Smush drove with two minutes left, missed a layup and on the other end he switched on Rashard and gave up a layup in the post. We could have cut the lead to two if he had scored on his drive.

Cook -- -- Wilcox (who had 21 points on 9-12 shooting) was scoring early on Cook. Cook managed 8 points on 4-9 shooting and 5 boards in 18 minutes. He snagged a Mihm miss and scored a layup. Nice made a rare post countermove, faking the turnaround and going up and under off the glass. He missed back-to-back wide open J's off Kobe kickouts. Nice reach on a double team to strip the ball and start the break. Kobe kicked it out Cook again and this time he knocked down the baseline jumper. Great hustle, diving to the floor (something he's always been good at), he came up with a loose ball then fed Mihm under the hoop for the dunk.

Walton -- -- Luke put together a season-high 17 points on a perfect 7-7 shooting. He made all three of his three-pointers in just 20:42 of action. He also had 6 boards (3 offensive). Tremendous game as he continues to give this team a late-season lift off the bench. He came in late in the first quarter and swished a three on a kickout from Kobe to end the first quarter. He nearly threw a turnover, got the ball back, attacked and hit a fallaway 10-footer. He knocked down a wide open three on a Sasha kickout. Great hustle to grab an offensive board, then on the other end, he stopped penetration, rotated to a bigman and drew a charge. Excellent drive, ball fake and layup at the front of the rim off a Mihm screen. On the next offensive sequence, Smush kicked it to him and he knocked down another open three. He fought for an offensive board off a Kobe missed three and it led to a Kobe dunk. He got a rebound tapped out to him, pushed up the break with Kobe and scored a layup. Great game off the bench...it's a shame it went to waste.

Kwame -- -- He played 20 minutes, had 3 turnovers, didn't score, but had 5 boards. When Turiaf and Bynum are getting 5 minutes each, you know Phil is searching for something. Kwame lost a couple of passes thrown to him. Nice help D rejection on one end, then he threw the ball away on the other. Kwame took a bump trying to set up in the post and stopped to yap at the refs as Luke threw the ball to him, he never saw it and it resulted in a turnover and a score. That pretty much typified the game we played.

Sasha -- -- Sasha hit a couple of threes for his 6 points and also had 3 assists in 18 minutes. Nice switch onto Kobe's man and then he poked the ball loose to cause a turnover. Good curl down the lane and feed to Turiaf for a layup. He hit a wing three off a kickout from Kobe. He knocked down another three on a swing pass from Luke. He missed his next three. He drove and kicked to Luke who hit the three.

Turiaf -- -- Good to see Ronny getting a little run. He scored 4 points in 5:18 on 2-3 shooting. He didn't commit any fouls and played some pretty solid D on Petro. He missed a little turnaround one hander in the middle of the lane at the start of the second quarter. He surveyed the floor from the post, then backed down Petro and hit a baseline jumphook over him. He hung tight contesting a Petro turnaround on the other end and forced an airball. He scored a layup off a drive and kick from Sasha. Good stint...then he didn't see daylight again.

Bynum -- -- Phil subbed him in for the first 5:31 of the fourth. Interesting decision. He picked up a foul trying to show and recover on his man. He bobbled a great behind the back pass from Luke, messing up a chance to dunk, then missed his shot. After grabbing a board, he sat.

Phil -- -- The Lakers got killed in transition D, especially by the Sonic bigmen. Way too many dunks and layups (9 dunks and 8 layups) in the first half. The Sonics shot 64 percent in the first half, scoring 40 of their 64 total points in the paint. Ouch... The Lakers went back to hoisting up threes again, shooting 11-28 in the game. Some of those misses allowed the Sonics to bust out on the break... "We couldn't overcome a tough shooting game for Kobe," Phil said. "They threw an extra man at him, and we didn't make good adjustments. Offensively, I don't think we grasped the concepts of what we are trying to do here."... With the Lakers floundering a little to start the fourth, Phil called a timeout. He set up Odom in the post, and he scored on a jumphook... Out of another timeout late in the fourth, Phil called for Lamar in the post again. He got to the line for FTs... Phil was searching for help and gave both Bynum and Turiaf 5 minutes each in the game. JJ and Green got DNPs... During the game, Jerry Buss said he thought the team was "a little ahead of schedule" as far as the rebuilding. He said they are missing "experience as a unit" and that they were a little weak at guard and could use some more help there...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:34 pm    Post subject:

Stupidly played game... Just when you think we've learned to play together, and win!!... We need to learn how to use everyone... We need to learn how to use Jim Jackson, to help Kobe out.

Phil just sat there, most of the time, and watched the same weaknesses repeated. I don't know, "there's something rotten, in Denmark"... Phil seems to be afraid of the politics, or something...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:37 pm    Post subject:

I blame Kobe for not shooting well tonight, 8/29 and 2/13 from 3 points. Not good shot selections. And I know, It was also the horrible Defense, but Sonics were doing horrible defense as well, so if we have executed better offensively, it could've been a W.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:05 am    Post subject:

Defense Defense Defense it's the only thing you should've added, btw i hate ABC games i think the last time we win a ABC game was in 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject:

Some comments from Tex about Lamar and the team:

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Tex Winter was back in town, that time of the month for a Laker analysis of all things triangular.

Winter, 84 and still consulting, liked what he saw from Lamar Odom in recent games, slowly coming on board with the forward after criticizing him for lack of consistency earlier in the season.

"Odom is sensing a little bit more what he can accomplish out of the format of the offense," Winter said. "I think he's more comfortable now in reading the defense, making the right reactions and counteractions to how the defense is playing. Consequently, he's created more opportunities for himself to score, which I think he's got to do.

"Of course his strength, what really helps us, is his defense and his defensive board play and powering out of there with that ball. It's helping our running game and opening up the floor a lot more for us."

Winter, like most other Laker followers, senses the pattern of the season — some quality victories but too many losses to inadequate teams.

"They can play the game, but they sort of play down to their competition because they're not great," Winter said. "They may be fair or pretty good, but they're not great. That's what happens to a team like that. There's not that much margin for error if they're not having a good night."
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject:

So Tex, is implying that Average teams can beat great teams but they can't beat bad teams?

this team is just to hard to figure out...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject:

thanks, db...
talking about the philosophy of the game, it seems to me that phil's vision shows a huge contradiction... on one hand, he preaches the "let the game come to you" and the wonderful taoist principle "go with the flow"... but on the other hand, his formula requires that the players deeply understand "the concepts of what we are trying to do"... i don't know if it's a so good idea fill up the head of players with little iq... what about teaching them something very simple as defensive transitions?...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:46 am    Post subject:

this had to be one of the oddest games of kobe's career. i'll take the fact that he didn't do a van-exel on a ref or try choking one of his teammates as a positive. bad loss, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject:

LakersSpirit wrote:
Stupidly played game... Just when you think we've learned to play together, and win!!...


The Lakers are what they are this year, inconsistant. Anyone who expected more than that this season needs to have their head examined.

I have to agree with Dr. Buss on the fact we are ahead of schedule. It was a badly played game, but this year we are a barely above .500 team - plain and simple.

I believe we will make the playoffs and next season there will be a lot more consistancy. They are just starting to understand the triangle. By watching this team (when they win) I have come to understand why Phil loves the triangle so much, it can give you illusion of making a average team a great one.

Allen played great D against Kobe tonight. And I think the amount of time he has played on the floor this season is starting to wear on him. I predict next season will be a greater one for him than this one, because the team will be much more comfortable with the tri and Kobe won't HAVE to have 81 or 62 point games in order for us to win.

Cant win 'em all guys...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject:

Thanks, DB.

The only thing truly alarming about this game were Buss's remarks about being "ahead of schedule." What would behind schedule look like?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject:

Kobe had a ba game, that was te real reason, Allen had a better game
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject:

DaggerInTheHeart wrote:
So Tex, is implying that Average teams can beat great teams but they can't beat bad teams?

this team is just to hard to figure out...

No, he's saying that this team will lose and win around evenly.

They will win at any given point and lose at any given point. They are a .500 - .550 team
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:58 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. Missed this game...I'm glad I did.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject:

DancingBarry, link to Tex's comments pls?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject:

I don't care about Kobe's bad FG%. That wasn't the problem; the problem was defense and Kobe's attitude. He kept arguing every call and too much complaining. We gave up to many easy baskets. That was the story of the game.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:48 am    Post subject:

Thank DB!

Kobe need to take some of the blame for this one, but he's human. Even Kobe will have bad games. I wonder if he's got some sort of minor injury. His shot is usually much better. Fans are usually happy with players who score over 20 points in a game, but it's strange seeing Kobe barely do that.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject:

Excess of 3pt shots + Poor transition defense = Laziness

The Sonics best strategy was to run the ball down our throats. We accomodated that with long rebounds off bad shots from distance. This game wasn't lost on tallent or consistency. It was lost on intelligence and work ethic.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:25 am    Post subject:

59.5%?



Errr...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject:

wolfpaclaker wrote:
No, he's saying that this team will lose and win around evenly.

They will win at any given point and lose at any given point. They are a .500 - .550 team


Can this team survive a 1 month schedule if we had to play the Hawks Seattle and the Bobcats?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. This was a bitter pill to swallow, they just played with no intelligence.
Mihms injury could really hurt us if Kwame does a dissapering act, im hoping he will actually man up and pick up the slack though (players are supposed to live for opportunities like this).
Kobe had a bad game and should take some of the blame, thats what being the leader is all about not just taking praises for great performances.
The only question left is what team will show up at Arco?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject:

59.5% opposing FG percentage is awful.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject:

Just when you think the team has turned the corner, they suffer another case of playing down to the level of their opponent. Three words for the team: Defense...Defense...Defense.

NKPOG = Luuuuke. He's been a real surprise over the last couple of weeks, bringing energy, playing smart and hitting shots. He made his dad and us Lakers fans very proud yesterday.

As for the Rest Of Team:

- Mihm played well. Hopefully his ankle injury won't keep him out long.
- LO - I didn't realize he only had so few boards, tying his season low.
- Kwame's birthday celebration didn't extend very long (or maybe it did and this is what happens)
- Smush played well, but I thought he should've taken the open 3 when the Lakers were down 4 with 2 minutes left. Instead he tried to drive the lane.
- Kobe was frustrated the entire day and usually a mad player is a bad player. I have no doubt that he'll be back to form soon.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: SONICS -at- LAKERS -- 3/12 -- Thoughts and :-(( ratings

DancingBarry wrote:
Frustration...Laker bigmen were getting beat down the floor for dunk after dunk in transition.
shot too many three's again, going 11-28 from beyond the arc.
Kobegave Sasha an elbow on the bench
PhilThe Lakers got killed in transition D, especially by the Sonic bigmen. Way too many dunks and layups (9 dunks and 8 layups) in the first half.
Since I didn't see the game (thank goodness)
With transition defense being non-existence, was it the Lakers' "big men" just not hustling downcourt or were the Lakers not executing their offensive sets correctly that caused them to be imbalanced defensively?

Were Smush/Sasha not stopping the Seattle's PGs penetration into the paint that caused the multiple problems? (since Kobe was obviously trying to communicate that point to Sasha?!?!)

Did Turiaff/Bynum improved the transition defense when they were in the game?

Why did Jim Jackson didn't play any minutes?

With Mihm and DGeorge injuried, on a team that doens't have much depth and/or experience with its subs - what do people think will happen.

IMO - we have a team that has talent to beat the elite teams, but the 2nd youngest team is just like a talented child - it will always surprise you with the great things they do at unexpected times and the dumb things that they do at the oddest times. Watching this team is like watching a talented teenager growing up - LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB, this team just needs to grow up. Buss said as much himself when he said they needed a veteran presence.
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