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D's Advocate Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Amazing post DB. Mucho props. |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I still can't believe he took us to the playoffs with Kwame and *mush as starters. That's like winning a marathon on one leg. |
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BigE32 Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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That was a great post, DB. Thanks for sharing it. I recorded the press conference b/c I was out. I'm going to watch it in a little while. |
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SweetP Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 6054 Location: My own little piece of reality
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I so happy right now. Congrats to Kobe and the team. I think Kobe was truely moved by winning the MVP, I think he had convinced himself it would never happen. Boy, it's sweet now tho'.
Excellent writing DB! _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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20,000 Retired Number
Joined: 27 Jun 2005 Posts: 30009 Location: Likely nowhere near you
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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The best part of the conference for me was Kobe's interaction with this teammates. He looked and acted like a high school kid acts with his teammates. Laughing like a giddy child and just having fun up there.
It was nice to see that....innocence where I didn't think there was innocence anymore (not a knock on Kobe but a knock on pro sports in general). _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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10scott10 Star Player
Joined: 17 May 2006 Posts: 7428 Location: Making the games you play
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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encina1 wrote: | The best part of the conference for me was Kobe's interaction with this teammates. He looked and acted like a high school kid acts with his teammates. Laughing like a giddy child and just having fun up there.
It was nice to see that....innocence where I didn't think there was innocence anymore (not a knock on Kobe but a knock on pro sports in general). |
the luke and tex questions had me rolling |
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Orestes Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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10scott10 wrote: | encina1 wrote: | The best part of the conference for me was Kobe's interaction with this teammates. He looked and acted like a high school kid acts with his teammates. Laughing like a giddy child and just having fun up there.
It was nice to see that....innocence where I didn't think there was innocence anymore (not a knock on Kobe but a knock on pro sports in general). |
the luke and tex questions had me rolling |
Same, along with the bit about keeping Pau from winning a gold medal |
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AndrewBynum17 Star Player
Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 2609
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: Re: Kobe Bryant - Our MVP |
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DancingBarry wrote: | In 40 or 50 years from now, when we're fortunate enough to be old men and women, one of us will take our grandchild to a Laker game. The kid will be wide-eyed and in awe as Grandpa points out the championship banners hanging from up high.
Looking up to the rafters, the kid sees No. 24 hanging among the Laker legends. "Grandpa, did you see Kobe play? What was he like?"
Grandpa stares at the massive jersey for a while. His whole demeanor changes, like he's just finished punching out a pipe-wielding heavyweight champ of the world in a bar fight and jumping a motorbike over a canyon that would make Evel Knievel crap.
Grandpa turns to the boy, and this being Hollywood and all, he says through clinched teeth, "Kid, you ever see the movie, Jaws?"
The dumbstruck stuck kid blinks his answer and Grandpa continues anyway. "He was like that shark. His court was like that water. You know what they told people in that movie?"
The kid shakes his head.
"Get out of the water," the old man says.
Grandpa continues to ramble on with hyperbole as if he's describing the biggest bad ass of all superheroes and supervillains combined into one being. "He was forged of molten steel, ate it for breakfast, too. While the sun slept, he woke and worked out with the Devil. He called it his 666 workout. Know what game he scored 81? His 666th. He once outscored an entire team in three quarters before they called him off. He was a one-man pack of wild dogs. He was the black mamba. He was..."
Of course, now the kid thinks Grandpa has lost his mind. While Grandpa rambles on, the kid thinks back to the first thing that he said, "Get out of the water." Yeah, the kid thinks, I bet that's what Kobe was like.
Meanwhile, Grandpa's lost in memories of the 2007-08 season when Kobe won his first MVP.
"Legends leave their footprints, boy," Grandpa says. He continues on and the kid gets the gist of what the old man is saying. It doesn't matter the job, the industry, the competition. Whatever the realm, the true legends leave a mark of greatness.
Kobe Bryant is Legend. You may not like him, you may hate that he can drive you crazy a thousand different ways...or you may love him like a brother. Regardless of your opinion, you cannot argue that the man is legend.
You can try to argue away three rings. You can try to argue away 81. And now you can try to argue away MVP.
At some point people just need to admit that Kobe rubs them the wrong way. It will save a lot of time and effort. Admit it and be done with it.
The haters said he couldn't win MVP when his team was barely above .500. This, despite dropping strings of 50-point and 40-point games on opponents to keep an overwhelmed team afloat. Turn the tables on the haters and give Kobe a team with one of the best records in the NBA and the haters start to look for new excuses.
It doesn't matter. Kobe is the best player in the sport of basketball. Everyone has known it for years. Not only that, the man is the most fierce and feared gladiator in the game. I don't think you could say that about a lot of MVPs, especially in recent years.
Now you can.
He has channeled that fierce drive, that personal pride, fury and will to win into MVP.
Some of us already knew he was the best. We knew he was the game's best gladiator.
Kobe signs off the messages on his website with "Strength and honor," a line quoted from Maximus in the movie, Gladiator. These days, however, he refers to Pau Gasol as Maximus Decimus Meridius, The Spaniard.
But there is really only one gladiator. Kobe Bryant is Gladiator. Kobe Bryant is Legend.
It wasn't a glorious ride, this MVP season. In fact, it started off ugly -- all good epics do. There was carnage in Laker land. As Phil Jackson described the first home game, "I turned to one of my coaches and said, 'Are those boos?' And one of them said, 'Yeah, those are boos.' I was surprised."
A good portion of Laker fans were steamed about Kobe's demand to be traded. You almost wish you could hear Kobe screaming back at the crowd like Maximus, "Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?"
But he, too, wanted a separation from the franchise Laker fans love. He was willing to put down the golden armor and battle in another arena.
As we now know, cooler heads prevailed. Afterall, you don't trade Kobe Bryant. Even if he wants it.
The Lakers have come a long way from private meetings in Spain this summer with Jerry Buss and Kobe, and remarks by Buss from Hawaii about looking into trades. These were the worst of times.
And Laker haters loved it. They drank it up.
Who knows what Laker players will wear the golden armor years from now? May they be great and bring many rings. But, right now, we get to enjoy one of the greatest to ever suit up.
Guess what Laker haters? The MVP is wearing the purple and gold.
Kobe Bryant is MVP.
Kobe Bryant is Gladiator.
Kobe Bryant is Legend. |
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Prometheus8 Star Player
Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 1851
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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pokoy wrote: | I feel like we won the championship already. Seriously, if Boston doesn't win the ring this year, I will be able to say this has been a very satisfying NBA season. |
First, amazing post DB.
Second, Kobe MVP, First in an 8-50 win team West, Sweeping a 50-win team. What a year! _________________ "Every time he got an offensive rebound, it was deflating," Hornets coach Monty Williams said ... "I thought Bynum decided the series. He was that good."
"...one of the most valuable players in the league…"– Phil Jackson about Ron Artest in 2005 |
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bko32 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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DB, great, great post. Gave me goosebumps reading it. Thanks. |
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Discoflux Star Player
Joined: 11 Mar 2008 Posts: 3344 Location: W. Los Angeles, CA
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations, Kobe! |
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Achilles Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Fantastic post DB. You really got it - Kobe is a gladiator. That's what the haters really can't accept. Not only is he a great athlete, he's also a fierce, fierce competitor. His will sets him apart and it's entertaining as hell to watch play out night after night. It's like listening to Mozart. It's often excessive and bewildering, like greatness can be. Can't wait to tell my grandkids about the Legend.
Again, wonderful post. It's another great day to be a Laker fan. |
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tw-lakbfan Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2001 Posts: 16636
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe was nervous, excited and happy at the press conference .
I feel so happy for him. Kobe is our MVP. |
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AllorNothing Franchise Player
Joined: 08 Oct 2001 Posts: 18448
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. Kobe's interviews this year has been more heartfelt moreso this year than any other year. |
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pawn Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks DB. Awesome way to show some love for our MVP. |
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SiRQB11 Star Player
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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cant believe there was a topic suggesting that he turn down the award! _________________ only real ballers have skills. Kobe skills |
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OscarWang Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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MVP. _________________ "Everything negative - pressure, challenges - is all an opportunity for me to rise."
- Kobe Bryant |
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ginebra~lakers Sixth Man
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:46 am Post subject: |
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so guys do you think Kobe will win again an MVP award? |
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tw-lakbfan Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:17 am Post subject: |
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ginebra~lakers wrote: | so guys do you think Kobe will win again an MVP award? |
Hopefully the Finals MVP. |
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KingKobe Star Player
Joined: 27 Dec 2001 Posts: 3550 Location: UCLA
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Don't worry DB, you're still MVP of LG because you make other posters better even if you need LG's Pau, me, to make this place a championship level board _________________ *Warning: The preceding post may have contained sarcasm and/or irony.
"We're all surrounded by idiots." - Kobe Bryant |
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8750 Star Player
Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 1591 Location: milan, italy
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Thank You, DB
it's wonderful sharing kobe's greatest moment with the people here on LG... |
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20,000 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: |
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Another one of my favorite moments....Kobe was presented with keys to a car...that will be donated in his name to an LA Boys' and Girls' Club. Glad to see multi-billionaires not get more free cars. _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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82410 Star Player
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: Re: Kobe Bryant - Our MVP |
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DancingBarry wrote: | In 40 or 50 years from now, when we're fortunate enough to be old men and women, one of us will take our grandchild to a Laker game. The kid will be wide-eyed and in awe as Grandpa points out the championship banners hanging from up high.
Looking up to the rafters, the kid sees No. 24 hanging among the Laker legends. "Grandpa, did you see Kobe play? What was he like?"
Grandpa stares at the massive jersey for a while. His whole demeanor changes, like he's just finished punching out a pipe-wielding heavyweight champ of the world in a bar fight and jumping a motorbike over a canyon that would make Evel Knievel crap.
Grandpa turns to the boy, and this being Hollywood and all, he says through clinched teeth, "Kid, you ever see the movie, Jaws?"
The dumbstruck stuck kid blinks his answer and Grandpa continues anyway. "He was like that shark. His court was like that water. You know what they told people in that movie?"
The kid shakes his head.
"Get out of the water," the old man says.
Grandpa continues to ramble on with hyperbole as if he's describing the biggest bad ass of all superheroes and supervillains combined into one being. "He was forged of molten steel, ate it for breakfast, too. While the sun slept, he woke and worked out with the Devil. He called it his 666 workout. Know what game he scored 81? His 666th. He once outscored an entire team in three quarters before they called him off. He was a one-man pack of wild dogs. He was the black mamba. He was..."
Of course, now the kid thinks Grandpa has lost his mind. While Grandpa rambles on, the kid thinks back to the first thing that he said, "Get out of the water." Yeah, the kid thinks, I bet that's what Kobe was like.
Meanwhile, Grandpa's lost in memories of the 2007-08 season when Kobe won his first MVP.
"Legends leave their footprints, boy," Grandpa says. He continues on and the kid gets the gist of what the old man is saying. It doesn't matter the job, the industry, the competition. Whatever the realm, the true legends leave a mark of greatness.
Kobe Bryant is Legend. You may not like him, you may hate that he can drive you crazy a thousand different ways...or you may love him like a brother. Regardless of your opinion, you cannot argue that the man is legend.
You can try to argue away three rings. You can try to argue away 81. And now you can try to argue away MVP.
At some point people just need to admit that Kobe rubs them the wrong way. It will save a lot of time and effort. Admit it and be done with it.
The haters said he couldn't win MVP when his team was barely above .500. This, despite dropping strings of 50-point and 40-point games on opponents to keep an overwhelmed team afloat. Turn the tables on the haters and give Kobe a team with one of the best records in the NBA and the haters start to look for new excuses.
It doesn't matter. Kobe is the best player in the sport of basketball. Everyone has known it for years. Not only that, the man is the most fierce and feared gladiator in the game. I don't think you could say that about a lot of MVPs, especially in recent years.
Now you can.
He has channeled that fierce drive, that personal pride, fury and will to win into MVP.
Some of us already knew he was the best. We knew he was the game's best gladiator.
Kobe signs off the messages on his website with "Strength and honor," a line quoted from Maximus in the movie, Gladiator. These days, however, he refers to Pau Gasol as Maximus Decimus Meridius, The Spaniard.
But there is really only one gladiator. Kobe Bryant is Gladiator. Kobe Bryant is Legend.
It wasn't a glorious ride, this MVP season. In fact, it started off ugly -- all good epics do. There was carnage in Laker land. As Phil Jackson described the first home game, "I turned to one of my coaches and said, 'Are those boos?' And one of them said, 'Yeah, those are boos.' I was surprised."
A good portion of Laker fans were steamed about Kobe's demand to be traded. You almost wish you could hear Kobe screaming back at the crowd like Maximus, "Are you not entertained? Is this not why you are here?"
But he, too, wanted a separation from the franchise Laker fans love. He was willing to put down the golden armor and battle in another arena.
As we now know, cooler heads prevailed. Afterall, you don't trade Kobe Bryant. Even if he wants it.
The Lakers have come a long way from private meetings in Spain this summer with Jerry Buss and Kobe, and remarks by Buss from Hawaii about looking into trades. These were the worst of times.
And Laker haters loved it. They drank it up.
Who knows what Laker players will wear the golden armor years from now? May they be great and bring many rings. But, right now, we get to enjoy one of the greatest to ever suit up.
Guess what Laker haters? The MVP is wearing the purple and gold.
Kobe Bryant is MVP.
Kobe Bryant is Gladiator.
Kobe Bryant is Legend. |
REALLY well done!!! _________________ The heroes of the past are untouchable, protected forever by the fortress door of time-unless some mysterious stranger magically turns up with a key. |
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jeremysnowIII Sixth Man
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Hiya Mr. DancingBarry:
Wow! I read Gramps your story and he got very terry eyyed.He said that you have a view that he deerly shares.He said ElginBailor and Jerry West as his "Kobes." These guys like Kobe played thruogh much pain but loved the game of basktball.Kobe would have fit in any generation of baskteball becuase he loves the game and works harder than anyone. Gramps said to thanks you very much for putting Kobes' legacy in a basktball perspective.
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noelty Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Best. post. ever. |
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