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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:07 pm    Post subject:

Only highlights so far from Bronny's 5on5 scrimmage...

https://x.com/LakeShowYo/status/1790478572303618103

- 4pts/4rebs 2/8 fg and 0/4 3fg in 19mins. But said he was active defensively.

Couple things I notice...

He don't look small out there at all.
Those floaters off the dribble are nice.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:45 pm    Post subject:

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(bleep) it, I'll take Bronny at 17.


No. Bronny is being expected to boost G-League sales. Whomever drafts him understands going in he's going to spend the first few years of his career in the G-League. They aren't wasting a first round pick on that.



Lakers did it with JHS


Bronny will get more minutes than JHS next year and not because of his last name. I'm not sure there's anything JHS is better than Bronny at aside from hairstyle variation.


BTW, for those concerned about his size, the comp for me is Gary Payton II, who is nearly identical in height, wingspan, bulldog POA defense with a come-and-go 3-ball. Not bad value for a second rounder. Maybe he's our next Alex Caruso?


What were JHS stats in college and d league vs LeSon in college?
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:49 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
Only highlights so far from Bronny's 5on5 scrimmage...

https://x.com/LakeShowYo/status/1790478572303618103

- 4pts/4rebs 2/8 fg and 0/4 3fg in 19mins. But said he was active defensively.

Couple things I notice...

He don't look small out there at all.
Those floaters off the dribble are nice.


The first tear drop floater was NOICE. That was the anti-Wemby tear drop.


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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 3:50 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
Only highlights so far from Bronny's 5on5 scrimmage...

https://x.com/LakeShowYo/status/1790478572303618103

- 4pts/4rebs 2/8 fg and 0/4 3fg in 19mins. But said he was active defensively.

Couple things I notice...

He don't look small out there at all.
Those floaters off the dribble are nice.

He’s 6’3. That is not ideal but if he can d up that could work. The problem with drafting him is Lbj is on borrowed time. If he’s out in a year or 2 we wasted an asset. Bron is playing in the Olympics. Exactly the thing a guy with a ton of miles should do. Especially when the teams they are playing are really good.
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2024 4:00 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
Only highlights so far from Bronny's 5on5 scrimmage...

https://x.com/LakeShowYo/status/1790478572303618103

- 4pts/4rebs 2/8 fg and 0/4 3fg in 19mins. But said he was active defensively.

Couple things I notice...

He don't look small out there at all.
Those floaters off the dribble are nice.


So about the same as he did in college..
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 6:38 am    Post subject:

Why waste a pick to keep a guy whos here 2 more years max. happy?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 6:58 am    Post subject:

Bronny was the third best player on his HS Team and maybe the 5th best player on his college team.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:40 am    Post subject:

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Why waste a pick to keep a guy whos here 2 more years max. happy?


2013-2018 pre LeBron was abysmal basketball.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 8:53 am    Post subject:

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Why waste a pick to keep a guy whos here 2 more years max. happy?


2013-2018 pre LeBron was abysmal basketball.


We didn't have Anthony Davis to work with then
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:18 am    Post subject:

The media is so desperate to get Bronny drafted. Any time there is anything poor to report out about him it always comes with a caveat of something positive.

"James underwhelms in 5 on 5 scrimmage, but turns heads by shooting well during unguarded drills"

"James measures 6'1 without shoes, but has 4th highest vertical"

"James underwhelms in college, but has NBA ready intangibles"

"Opposing player drops 15 on Bronny in 10 minutes, but Bronny shows high defensive IQ in the process"

Between the media favoritism and nepotism some poor kid is going to lose out on a roster spot that they are more deserving of
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 9:50 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
ThreePointBomber wrote:
GOODRICH25 wrote:
Why waste a pick to keep a guy whos here 2 more years max. happy?


2013-2018 pre LeBron was abysmal basketball.


We didn't have Anthony Davis to work with then


Not too mention it was still easy to root for those kids. I had a far better time watching them do their thing then whatever this team currently is. Expectations are a mother...
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 11:57 am    Post subject:

If Bronny gets drafted, it wont be because he is good or even on potential.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 11:58 am    Post subject:

defense wrote:
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GOODRICH25 wrote:
Why waste a pick to keep a guy whos here 2 more years max. happy?


2013-2018 pre LeBron was abysmal basketball.


We didn't have Anthony Davis to work with then


Correct, but AD by himself would be just as bad as we saw in NOLA.

In order to build a good team you need good players. To get good players you need money.

I have no interest in watching a repeat of 2013-2018 pre Lebron Lakers or the years with Westbrook.

Bronny to the Lakers = $$$

Not hiring Ty Lue, and letting Alex Caruso walk were stupid decisions that were to my knowledge, made for financial reasons. The team has been hurting bad due to these mistakes.

The front office can't even be trusted to draft properly with pick 17 (Missed JJJ, Podz, and Cam Whitmore last year)

Make make bank with marketing and generate revenue so the team doesn't have to penny pinch for good coaches and players.

When Bronny last played against top level competition (pre injury) he played well.



I see no problem with drafting him, but in the event you don't want to use a pick, do a 2 way deal, just like Colin Castleton, just like Austin Reaves.

The only reason the forced 2 way deal isn't being talked about is because of this sorry ass nepotism angle people are fake caring about.

Integrity in this league has long been gone with rigged games, free throw merchanting, bought refs, and with legal sports betting in the mix, stat padding and point shaving is a part of the game (as it has been since the 90s).
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 12:07 pm    Post subject:

Bronny looked good in the 1st half playing off the ball. 9 points. Solid all around so far.
Of course LBJ is in the house!
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 12:36 pm    Post subject:

This would be a lot easier if Bronny can go undrafted. I dont what Lakers to waste any pick on him but if they must, i can stomach using 55 on him if he is available.

Otherwise, its out of our hands, especially if we trade the 17th pick
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 1:44 pm    Post subject:

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Bronny at the NBA Combine today 👀

13 PTS (team-high)
4-10 FG
23 MINS


https://x.com/BleacherReport/status/1790854177121296852
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 5:03 pm    Post subject:

Look like he can play to me... I mean he does not try to do too much out there.


But I like how how he competes on the defensive end.

If he can develop a consistent jumper, I think he can find a role in the NBA.

Defensively is definitely more advance than his offense.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 6:33 pm    Post subject:

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Stephen A. Smith is hearing that the Mavericks have interest in drafting Bronny James

“But here’s a newsflash, what I’ve also heard. Bronny James may not make it to the Lakers’ second round pick. Because if a team like the Dallas Mavericks could position themselves to get him in the second round, they’ll take him. Because LeBron said he wants to go where his son goes and if you’re the Dallas Mavericks and you got Kyrie, and you got Luka, and LeBron James is willing to come to big D, that might be the first time something is more popular than the Cowboy.”

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 7:07 pm    Post subject:

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Stephen A. Smith is hearing that the Mavericks have interest in drafting Bronny James

“But here’s a newsflash, what I’ve also heard. Bronny James may not make it to the Lakers’ second round pick. Because if a team like the Dallas Mavericks could position themselves to get him in the second round, they’ll take him. Because LeBron said he wants to go where his son goes and if you’re the Dallas Mavericks and you got Kyrie, and you got Luka, and LeBron James is willing to come to big D, that might be the first time something is more popular than the Cowboy.”


I think LeBron is the Lakers to lose. LeBron will not pass up $160M for him and his family, no matter how much his net worth is.
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dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
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Stephen A. Smith is hearing that the Mavericks have interest in drafting Bronny James

“But here’s a newsflash, what I’ve also heard. Bronny James may not make it to the Lakers’ second round pick. Because if a team like the Dallas Mavericks could position themselves to get him in the second round, they’ll take him. Because LeBron said he wants to go where his son goes and if you’re the Dallas Mavericks and you got Kyrie, and you got Luka, and LeBron James is willing to come to big D, that might be the first time something is more popular than the Cowboy.”


I think LeBron is the Lakers to lose. LeBron will not pass up $160M for him and his family, no matter how much his net worth is.


How much money can the Mavs offer Lebron?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 7:38 pm    Post subject:

2nd round pick + $160M seems reasonable.
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defense wrote:
pjiddy wrote:
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(bleep) it, I'll take Bronny at 17.


No. Bronny is being expected to boost G-League sales. Whomever drafts him understands going in he's going to spend the first few years of his career in the G-League. They aren't wasting a first round pick on that.



Lakers did it with JHS


Bronny will get more minutes than JHS next year and not because of his last name. I'm not sure there's anything JHS is better than Bronny at aside from hairstyle variation.


BTW, for those concerned about his size, the comp for me is Gary Payton II, who is nearly identical in height, wingspan, bulldog POA defense with a come-and-go 3-ball. Not bad value for a second rounder. Maybe he's our next Alex Caruso?


What were JHS stats in college and d league vs LeSon in college?


I don't care for this trick question. JHS had an entire offense designed around setting screens for his mid-ass midrange game. Bronny missed a portion of the season with heart problems and then came back on a minutes restriction off the bench. And we're gonna do counting stats with draft picks? Were you hoping the Lakers drafted Antoine Davis?

But i do find their efficiency stats interesting. Both of their TS% was abysmal

Bronny: 47.2%
JHS: 49.3%

I'm a big believer that that's a huge red flag for a scorer. However, Bronny profiles as a role player while JHS is supposed to be this talented future lead guard.

Then there's block and steal rates, which translate strongly to the pros

Bronny: 2.3% steal rate, 1.1% block rate
JHS: 1.4% steal rate, 0.8% block rate

So, JHS not doing much with his size advantage there.

Then there's Assist rate, where Bronny jumps out to me.
Bronny: 19.4%
JHS: 20.2%

Again, JHS billed as this great PnR guy, he's barely ahead of Bronny here, whose passing i think is strong. In the little I've seen of him, i've seen more been more impressed with his vision than i ever have with JHS.

How about rebound rate?
Bronny: 8.2%
JHS: 7.2%

Once again, JHS has the size advantage, but thanks to his bottom-of-the-league athleticism, can't rebound better than a guy who is "only 6'2."

I dont care what the college stats say. I'm comfortable betting that Bronny has a longer career in the NBA than JHS. He has actual identifiable skills: POA defense and passing. JHS has yet to flash a singular skill.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2024 7:56 pm    Post subject:

dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
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Stephen A. Smith is hearing that the Mavericks have interest in drafting Bronny James

“But here’s a newsflash, what I’ve also heard. Bronny James may not make it to the Lakers’ second round pick. Because if a team like the Dallas Mavericks could position themselves to get him in the second round, they’ll take him. Because LeBron said he wants to go where his son goes and if you’re the Dallas Mavericks and you got Kyrie, and you got Luka, and LeBron James is willing to come to big D, that might be the first time something is more popular than the Cowboy.”


I think LeBron is the Lakers to lose. LeBron will not pass up $160M for him and his family, no matter how much his net worth is.


Just my opinion. I hope that Dallas does draft Bronny and that Lebron follows him over there so that the circus can finally move away from the Lakers. I also hope that the Pelicans decide to exercise their pick this year so that next year we can have our own pick that we keep. The rookie class next year is deeper and you never know, the league may gift us the 1st overall pick next year and a chance at Cooper Flagg
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LakerLand247 wrote:
dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
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Stephen A. Smith is hearing that the Mavericks have interest in drafting Bronny James

“But here’s a newsflash, what I’ve also heard. Bronny James may not make it to the Lakers’ second round pick. Because if a team like the Dallas Mavericks could position themselves to get him in the second round, they’ll take him. Because LeBron said he wants to go where his son goes and if you’re the Dallas Mavericks and you got Kyrie, and you got Luka, and LeBron James is willing to come to big D, that might be the first time something is more popular than the Cowboy.”


I think LeBron is the Lakers to lose. LeBron will not pass up $160M for him and his family, no matter how much his net worth is.


Just my opinion. I hope that Dallas does draft Bronny and that Lebron follows him over there so that the circus can finally move away from the Lakers. I also hope that the Pelicans decide to exercise their pick this year so that next year we can have our own pick that we keep. The rookie class next year is deeper and you never know, the league may gift us the 1st overall pick next year and a chance at Cooper Flagg



You mean give Cooper Falgg to NO? Or do you just want to suck ass for the next 5 - 7 years?

Trading Lebron is not the answer.
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lakersken80 wrote:
dont_be_a_wuss wrote:
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Stephen A. Smith is hearing that the Mavericks have interest in drafting Bronny James

“But here’s a newsflash, what I’ve also heard. Bronny James may not make it to the Lakers’ second round pick. Because if a team like the Dallas Mavericks could position themselves to get him in the second round, they’ll take him. Because LeBron said he wants to go where his son goes and if you’re the Dallas Mavericks and you got Kyrie, and you got Luka, and LeBron James is willing to come to big D, that might be the first time something is more popular than the Cowboy.”


I think LeBron is the Lakers to lose. LeBron will not pass up $160M for him and his family, no matter how much his net worth is.


How much money can the Mavs offer Lebron?


I think the highest exception they will have is the tax payer MLE. They are already way up there in committed salary. I’m not sure if they’re flirting with the hard cap.

I am trying to figure out if I like a LeBron sign and trade to Cleveland for Donovan Mitchell.
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