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srm90
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| props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Cervantes wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | Brandon98 wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
Not even close. |
Thats a troll post if Ive ever seen one. 20 years? 1993-2013? Who know who played in those years? Shaq, Dunca, Jordan, Olajuwon? Seriously?
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yes jordan was a bit better at the end with the bulls but for the entirety of the 20 years lebron is the best |
now your showing your age   |
i am over 40 years old |
And still so much to learn |
no just an opinion and backed by the numbers. its kills me to say it cause he has 4-5 more years like this. he is out there toying with the other teams. |
So your over 40 years old and have watched basketball that entire time and can honestly say lebron is better than jordan?? Oh what am I doing,your not getting me in the troll attempt |
And remember, it's not even close. Jordan can't even sniff LeBron's jock.
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| The sooner we realize we are not a championship team this year the better. Changes need to be made. |
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realking24
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| Kobewood wrote: | | SlickVic wrote: | Lakers played well, they just got beat by a better team. Back in the day, I never admitted that in '09 and '10 and always excused a loss as lack of effort or lethargy, because after all, the Lakers could beat anyone when they brought it. But this season, it's just hard not to feel the Lakers are just getting pushed around by teams that are better than them.
As a fan, I hope something clicks at some point of this season and that changes. And while there still is enough time for something to happen, it sure better happen sooner rather than later. |
I mostly agree with you except for the part where you say that they played well. Kobe going 8/24 isn't exactly ideal and neither is committing 16 turnovers in a single half.
If they went to the bigs and played off them then I feel we could of beat this team. We can't run up and down with the Heat.
The game was there for the taking though, amazingly enough. |
If they went to the bigs and played off them then I feel we could of beat this team. We can't run up and down with the Heat. |
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Lakers95
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| Quote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
You should feel ashamed of yourself for posting this, loanman. Trolling or not.
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loanman_316
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Cervantes wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | Brandon98 wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
Not even close. |
Thats a troll post if Ive ever seen one. 20 years? 1993-2013? Who know who played in those years? Shaq, Dunca, Jordan, Olajuwon? Seriously?
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yes jordan was a bit better at the end with the bulls but for the entirety of the 20 years lebron is the best |
now your showing your age |
i am over 40 years old |
And still so much to learn |
no just an opinion and backed by the numbers. its kills me to say it cause he has 4-5 more years like this. he is out there toying with the other teams. |
So your over 40 years old and have watched basketball that entire time and can honestly say lebron is better than jordan?? Oh what am I doing,your not getting me in the troll attempt |
in many ways yes. he is a better all around player. you are picking out a couple of years where jordan was great. but then nothing he retired i dont count the wizard years. lebron is just a better all around player. he is a better all around player than jordan all time potentially. not yet but he can do it. |
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Gandalf
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| staticaa wrote: | | The sooner we realize we are not a championship team this year the better. Changes need to be made. |
Forget championship, are we even a playoff team? Sad but that is a more relevant question.
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| Manny450r wrote: | | Cervantes wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | Brandon98 wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
Not even close. |
Thats a troll post if Ive ever seen one. 20 years? 1993-2013? Who know who played in those years? Shaq, Dunca, Jordan, Olajuwon? Seriously?
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yes jordan was a bit better at the end with the bulls but for the entirety of the 20 years lebron is the best |
now your showing your age |
i am over 40 years old |
And still so much to learn |
You're just being sour man. Lebron is definitely the best, especially out of the people you just named. |
I agree with..
Over the last 20 years:
MJ NO.1
Kobe No.2 and has a edge over lebron since Kobe won more champs.
But lebron is not done yet. |
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realking24
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| staticaa wrote: | | The sooner we realize we are not a championship team this year the better. Changes need to be made. |
Dont you feel if they play a certain way we can be close. I do but thats part of the problem I guess. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Cervantes wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | Brandon98 wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
Not even close. |
Thats a troll post if Ive ever seen one. 20 years? 1993-2013? Who know who played in those years? Shaq, Dunca, Jordan, Olajuwon? Seriously?
ye |
yes jordan was a bit better at the end with the bulls but for the entirety of the 20 years lebron is the best |
now your showing your age |
i am over 40 years old |
And still so much to learn |
no just an opinion and backed by the numbers. its kills me to say it cause he has 4-5 more years like this. he is out there toying with the other teams. |
So your over 40 years old and have watched basketball that entire time and can honestly say lebron is better than jordan?? Oh what am I doing,your not getting me in the troll attempt |
in many ways yes. he is a better all around player. you are picking out a couple of years where jordan was great. but then nothing he retired i dont count the wizard years. lebron is just a better all around player. he is a better all around player than jordan all time potentially. not yet but he can do it. |
picking out a couple of years for Michael Jordan?? You have some 80's vids to you tube I see...
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| I 100% guarantee we would of have this game if Gasol didn't play. I don't care about the stats or the quick points in the first half. Lakers are forced to run at his pace. Jamison or Clark should have closed out. That Nash/Gasol pick and roll leads to absolutely nothing. And the Lakers are forced to cover two terrible defenders in the 4th quarter. |
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Thursday night is Troll Night...
er I mean "Objective Fans"...
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props
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| City_Dawg wrote: | Thursday night is Troll Night...
er I mean "Objective Fans"... |
it's actually pretty hilarious,a new lesson is being taught in every post
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Gandalf
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Cervantes wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | Brandon98 wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
Not even close. |
Thats a troll post if Ive ever seen one. 20 years? 1993-2013? Who know who played in those years? Shaq, Dunca, Jordan, Olajuwon? Seriously?
ye |
yes jordan was a bit better at the end with the bulls but for the entirety of the 20 years lebron is the best |
now your showing your age |
i am over 40 years old |
And still so much to learn |
no just an opinion and backed by the numbers. its kills me to say it cause he has 4-5 more years like this. he is out there toying with the other teams. |
So your over 40 years old and have watched basketball that entire time and can honestly say lebron is better than jordan?? Oh what am I doing,your not getting me in the troll attempt |
in many ways yes. he is a better all around player. you are picking out a couple of years where jordan was great. but then nothing he retired i dont count the wizard years. lebron is just a better all around player. he is a better all around player than jordan all time potentially. not yet but he can do it. |
Strange, you say he picked out a couple of good years for Jordan but you're counting potential great years in the future for Lebron? Strange.
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| staticaa wrote: | | The sooner we realize we are not a championship team this year the better. Changes need to be made. |
We won't be a championship team for a while. There is to many athletic teams out there we cannot guard. As for now we can just watch Kobe break records for the next couple years that lebron is going to break few more years after. Lol |
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it was a game of bad stretches. to start the game 8-0 off dunks. ending wiht 9-0. the lakers played 43 minutes of good basketball but the 5 were horrible
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| iggypop123 wrote: | | it was a game of bad stretches. to start the game 8-0 off dunks. ending wiht 9-0. the lakers played 45 minutes of good basketball but the 5 were horrible |
yup definitely
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: ***LAKERS -vs- HEAT 1/17 GAME THREAD*** |
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| diando wrote: | | 32 wrote: |
Damn. You do have a good track record for big games.  |
I hope we just win. You're putting your reputation on the line. |
 
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:32 pm Post subject: |
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| props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Cervantes wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | Brandon98 wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
Not even close. |
Thats a troll post if Ive ever seen one. 20 years? 1993-2013? Who know who played in those years? Shaq, Dunca, Jordan, Olajuwon? Seriously?
ye |
yes jordan was a bit better at the end with the bulls but for the entirety of the 20 years lebron is the best |
now your showing your age |
i am over 40 years old |
And still so much to learn |
no just an opinion and backed by the numbers. its kills me to say it cause he has 4-5 more years like this. he is out there toying with the other teams. |
So your over 40 years old and have watched basketball that entire time and can honestly say lebron is better than jordan?? Oh what am I doing,your not getting me in the troll attempt |
in many ways yes. he is a better all around player. you are picking out a couple of years where jordan was great. but then nothing he retired i dont count the wizard years. lebron is just a better all around player. he is a better all around player than jordan all time potentially. not yet but he can do it. |
picking out a couple of years for Michael Jordan?? You have some 80's vids to you tube I see... |
Not to mention the 4 championships he won in that 20 year timespan in which he completely dominated.
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| At least we held them under 100 |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:35 pm Post subject: |
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| srm90 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Cervantes wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | Brandon98 wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
Not even close. |
Thats a troll post if Ive ever seen one. 20 years? 1993-2013? Who know who played in those years? Shaq, Dunca, Jordan, Olajuwon? Seriously?
ye |
yes jordan was a bit better at the end with the bulls but for the entirety of the 20 years lebron is the best |
now your showing your age |
i am over 40 years old |
And still so much to learn |
no just an opinion and backed by the numbers. its kills me to say it cause he has 4-5 more years like this. he is out there toying with the other teams. |
So your over 40 years old and have watched basketball that entire time and can honestly say lebron is better than jordan?? Oh what am I doing,your not getting me in the troll attempt |
in many ways yes. he is a better all around player. you are picking out a couple of years where jordan was great. but then nothing he retired i dont count the wizard years. lebron is just a better all around player. he is a better all around player than jordan all time potentially. not yet but he can do it. |
picking out a couple of years for Michael Jordan?? You have some 80's vids to you tube I see... |
Not to mention the 4 championships he won in that 20 year timespan in which he completely dominated. |
But I've seen the future and Bron average 40/15/15 for the next 10 years! 
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| rAhmenSessions wrote: | | Why so much Bron love? We are Laker fans. |
That doesn't mean we shouldn't appreciate greatness when we see it, we are all fortunate to have watched Kobe grow up as a Laker and its great that he is still going strong at his age. He is no longer the best player in the league but that's nothing to be ashamed of... |
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| Kobe24Dwight12 wrote: | | I 100% guarantee we would of have this game if Gasol didn't play. I don't care about the stats or the quick points in the first half. Lakers are forced to run at his pace. Jamison or Clark should have closed out. That Nash/Gasol pick and roll leads to absolutely nothing. And the Lakers are forced to cover two terrible defenders in the 4th quarter. |
really? clark the guy with the -14? who turned the ball over 3 times in the 1st quarter alone? the guy who was guarding Lebron? the guy with the whopping total of 6 points in 22 minutes? yeah, right, he would have guaranteed us a win...  |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Gandalf wrote: | | srm90 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Cervantes wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | props wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | Lakers 4 eva wrote: | | Brandon98 wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | lebron james is the best player of the last 20 years and it isnt close. hats off |
Not even close. |
Thats a troll post if Ive ever seen one. 20 years? 1993-2013? Who know who played in those years? Shaq, Dunca, Jordan, Olajuwon? Seriously?
ye |
yes jordan was a bit better at the end with the bulls but for the entirety of the 20 years lebron is the best |
now your showing your age |
i am over 40 years old |
And still so much to learn |
no just an opinion and backed by the numbers. its kills me to say it cause he has 4-5 more years like this. he is out there toying with the other teams. |
So your over 40 years old and have watched basketball that entire time and can honestly say lebron is better than jordan?? Oh what am I doing,your not getting me in the troll attempt |
in many ways yes. he is a better all around player. you are picking out a couple of years where jordan was great. but then nothing he retired i dont count the wizard years. lebron is just a better all around player. he is a better all around player than jordan all time potentially. not yet but he can do it. |
picking out a couple of years for Michael Jordan?? You have some 80's vids to you tube I see... |
Not to mention the 4 championships he won in that 20 year timespan in which he completely dominated. |
But I've seen the future and Bron average 40/15/15 for the next 10 years! |
Jordan was awesome and loved his game but didn't the Bulls almost make it to the finals without him. They were one bad call away from going to the finals. Non of the Lakers championship team would of been in the finals without Kobe. And Just look at Lebrons team. As soon as he left they became a Lottery team. |
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I created an account just to get in on this discussion. Regarding Jordan, I grew up in Chicago in the 90's. The argument that Lebron is better is just trolling or ignorance. Lebron is the most gifted physical specimen this league has probably ever seen, but he's far behind Wilt, Shaq, Kobe, Magic, Kareem and (most obviously) Jordan.
He has a number of years left in him, but he doesn't transcend the game the way Jordan did. Lebron has the edge in a few statistical categories, but nothing that meaningful. When all is said and done, Lebron needs five more titles and five more finals MVP awards to even measure up in a tie. The scoreboard tells the truth. Good luck. |
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