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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:40 pm    Post subject:

ABynum17 wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
ABynum17 wrote:
A Mad Chinaman wrote:
ABynum17 wrote:
Will Phil allow us to go down with our best lineup? I mean, if we're going to allow Kobe to jack up those "desperation shots," then it seems pretty easy to me. In theory, they could hard-double Kobe, but that would allow Odom wide open paths to the baskets.

Furthermore, we can substittute for offense, when there are timeouts and free throw stoppages. We've definitely gotta do a better job on Pierce. Ron cannot guard Pierce at an adequate level at all, unless Pierce is tired.

Let's say we went with that lineup defensively, then you have Odom on Pierce, Kobe on Rondo, Artest on Allen, Bynum on KG(I think we have to make this switch now, especially if they allow us to play physical), Pau on Perkins. Tell Odom to play up on Pierce, and if they run any type of screen, either-on-ball-or off ball for Pierce, then we can just simply switch.

The biggest problem would probably be Allen, but we can just switch out and play basically a "domino-style" defense. Then whoever guards Perkins runs to the basket, Artest stays with KG, just in case Allen decides to drive on the big.

Now there are probably a ton of other fun things you can do with this lineup, but unfortunately, without seeing it in action, it's tough to think of them, especially offensively. However, if we do switch out for offense, whenever there are stoppages, then it's probably not urgent anyway.


Many problems with your suggestion

LO cannot guard Pierce - period.

Kobe is still inviting Rondo to shoot the outside shot

If Artest is having problems with P&Rs (which is rubbing off Artest), this problem will be worse when he guards Allen who goes through multiple screens.

Bynum has periodically been on KG but he will be beaten on the dribble or quick moves

Pau can't keep Perkins off the boards. This was supposed to be Bynum's job.


All you're doing is making assumptions, without actually visualizing the players and how the plays can develop.


Look forward to your views on how it will work in your scenarios

On the "one-on-one" matchups, the above-listed problems have been exposed


Expose what? For example, you think that just because Ron struggles to keep up with Pierce on the P&R, that means he'll struggle to keep up with Allen, well let me ask, how well do you think Fisher would do, trying to keep up with Pierce on the P&R? The answer is no chance.

You need to learn about certain defensive principles. In most situations, pretty much size wins. That's why you can't assume anything about Odom against Pierce, just because he played bad against Davis. If he guards Pierce, then he'll have the size advantage AND there'll be two bigs to back him up(in theory, he COULD still guard Davis, by playing up on him, if there were two bigs behind him, but that's not important here).


Odom guarded Pierce a few times in game 5. Pierce got off easy jumpers for makes right in LO's grill.

For the hundreth time, don't count on LO for anything. Be happy if he simply doesn't injure a teammate.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject:

odom doesnt like to contest shots, he's too lazy to raise up his long a##@@ arms let alone taking a challeng in pierce. any player in the league can get good looks on him with a simple fake to the basket. when he does once in a blue moon contest a shot he fouls them on a simple pump fake. worst player to even try guard pierce. just leave artest on him.
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