HORNETS -at- LAKERS - 4/17 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

[DancingBarry]

Defend The City... You've traveled the land in search of your vaunted Four Horsemen. There were sightings, rumors and occasional reports, but now you hope you've finally caught up with them back home in the City of Angels.

From the city gates, you squint in the distance at a massive wall of fire moving with purpose. It seems to be blazing a trail in your direction, black smoke and orange flame.

The wall of fire parts and you see what appears to be four riders atop horses, but heat waves on the surface blur your clarity. Is it a mirage or the real thing?

Your hopes are dashed as the fire sputters and fizzles away. The smoke, however, seems only to grow blacker and thicker. With it comes a familiar hum. It's not smoke, it's bugs you realize.

They breach the walls and retreat is on. You hole up in a quiet building and wait. In front of you, DancingBarry has graffitied the wall in front of you with purple and gold spray paint:

"The Four Horsemen were here. Only two really showed. They failed to throw the first punch, stick to the battle plan and out-work their opponent. The result was inevitable.

I will continue to track them."


You always worry when you hear Phil say he wasn't pleased with practice the day before a game. Sure enough bad habits, poor or non-existent execution, late and lazy rotations and a lack of effort by some key impact players all conspired to let the Hornets get the first win of the series 109-100.

Before the final minute of the game, which was essentially garbage time, Pau and Lamar had combined for just 10 points. The trio of Laker bigmen also only managed to pull down a single offensive board.

"We weren't animated or really aggressive," Phil said. Both he and Kobe said they didn't match the intensity or sense of urgency that their opponents played with -- a familiar problem this season.

"I'm very disappointed with the way we played -- with the type of effort we played with," Kobe corrected.

Equally as bad, Kobe said they didn't even execute the game plan defensively. Adjustments? Just do what you were supposed to do. That will likely be the message from the coaches.

Chris Paul exposed the Lakers by scoring 33 points and dishing 14 assists, becoming both scorer and passer at an extremely efficient clip.

"We got to play with energy. We got to play with life, man," Shannon Brown said. "We got to come out there get down on the floor, get our hands on loose balls, knock somebody down. You know what I mean?"

Staples seemed to agree as a smattering of boo's filled the arena as the game wound down. Look for a more purposeful, aggressive defense of the screen-roll and more of a post presence from the Laker bigmen.


Kobe -- -- "We didn't do the coverages defensively that we were supposed to do," Kobe said. He was particularly irked when Phil switched him to Paul defensively and the Lakers got burned on the screens. Kobe snapped at Pau, but Pau didn't snap out of it. "It's not about us making adjustments, it's about us doing what we said we were going to do in the first place," Kobe said after the game. It would have taken a massive game from Kobe to pull off this one. The one-two punch was just Kobe. Ron had the second most points, but he's not taking Pau's job anytime soon. Kobe hit half his shots, drew some fouls and generally got what he wanted against Ariza when left on iso. He had a couple of backcourt turnovers in this game that sucked some life out of the team. That assist-to-turnover ratio has been a steady 1 for 1 for too long now. Keep an eye out during the next game to see if Kobe makes sure Pau has his motor going. The Stats: He scored 34 points on 13-26 shooting (1-2 from three, 7-8 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 5 assists, 1 block, 5 turnovers and 2 fouls in 42 minutes. He was a +2. The Action: He swung through and missed a corner jumper on his first attempt. He attacked baseline and couldn't flip it in. He attacked in early offense across the lane, hung and hit the fade. He was bumped out of bounds with no call. He swished a sideline jumper off the screen by Pau. He missed a pumping fading midpost jumper. He kicked out in early offense to Fish for a three. He sliced through the D and was fouled while having his layup goaltended, he made the FT. He was stripped on a drive. He blew past Ariza, pumped and reversed. He attacked baseline and dished to Pau for the layup. He had 9 points on 4-7 shooting in the first. He missed a wing three after entering the game. He posted up and kicked to Trey for a jumper. He curled off a screen, attacked across the lane, hung, pulled it down and then banked. Out of a timeout, he swished a jumper while getting hit, he made the FT. He airballed a turnaround and wanted the foul. He was stripped for a score the other way. He missed a wing jumper out of a timeout. He swished a fading corner jumper over a double team and went down hard, back of the neck against a fan's chair and didn't get up until after halftime came. He had 16 points on 7-13 shooting. Second Half: Paul stole the ball from him in backcourt and hit a three when no one matched up. He missed a fading jumper. He swished a jumper when Paul flopped on him at the FT line. He sank a circus flip up stepping between a double team (crowd waking up on that). He attacked off a kickout and hit the pull-up wing jumper on the next possession. After a timeout, he attacked with aggression off the Pau screen and was held, he made both FTs to tie it up. He split a double team off the Pau screen and was fouled, he made one FT. He drew another foul off the dribble and made both FTs. He had 11 points on 3-4 shooting in the third. He posted up and hit a short one at the front of the rim. He swished a turnaround from the midpost. He drained a three over the zone. He missed a tough-angled baseline pull-up jumper. He got tapped on a fallaway in the post. He attacked and missed a lefty runner. He attacked and kicked to Ron for three. He fumbled away a ball at midcourt with 2 minutes left down 6. He attacked and missed a twisting shot at the rim. He attacked and missed another layup.

Gasol -- -- Kobe said Pau isn't "naturally aggressive." "You've just got to rev him up and get him going," he added. If you are looking for what wasn't working for the Lakers, start here. Pau did not impose his size on the Hornets. He played a perimeter-oriented game and wasn't in there crashing the glass. When Pau has gone through the motions on the court, the Lakers have struggled badly all season. He got out-played by Aaron Gray. Actually, name anyone and he got out-played by them. He's simply got to show up. You were hoping that maybe a cut beneath the eye by Mbenga would wake him up. Nope. No pulse. Lakers can't win without their one-two punch. Pau is going to hear it for the next three days. Lakers need to use their size and Pau needs to be engaged. "I only remember Pau in the post a couple of times," Phil said. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 2-9 shooting (0-1 from three, 4-4 from the line) to go with 6 boards, 6 assists, 2 blocks and 2 fouls in 38 minutes. He was a +1. The Action: He missed a baseline jumper off a kickut. He kicked out to Fish for a jumper. Slow to challenge and Gray hit an open jumper. He scored a layup on the drive and dish from Kobe. He grabbed a loose ball, pushed it up and threw it ahead to Shannon perfectly for a layup at the buzzer. He had 2 points and no boards in the first quarter. He missed an elbow pull-up jumper against the zone. Landry blew past him for a throw down, flat-footed D by Pau. He lost the ball on the dribble, got it back and missed a layup. He missed an elbow jumper. He was fouled by Mbenga on a drive and was bleeding below the eye when they connected heads, he made both FTs. He had 4 points on 1-5 shooting and 2 boards. Second Half: He missed a sideline three on a Kobe kickout to start the half. He missed a lefty hook over Ariza. He took exception with a shot from Ariza at midcourt (flagrant), had some words with him and made both FTs. Nice challenge at the rim on Landry to force a miss. He had 6 points on 1-7 shooting after three quarters. Rare post touch, he missed a face-up jumper (work your post game). He scored a reverse in the final minute and received some sarcastic applause.

Bynum -- -- Good to see him out there and looking like himself. He moved relatively well and the bone bruise didn't seem to be a factor. Drew was the only big to show for the Lakers. He wasn't able to dominate on the offensive glass, but he was putting in an effort. Foul trouble limited his minutes and probably limited him from getting a double-double. Phil pointed out a key sequence in the fourth when there was a chance to get a stop when a ball got wedged in the rim for a jumpball. "They got a tip against our biggest guy," Phil said. That was with 3 minutes left and a make on the other end and its anybody's ballgame. That's no guarantee, of course, that the Lakers wouldn't finish out the game the same way they did. Still, that was a disappointment. One of the larger stats in the game was the 1 offensive board among Pau, Bynum and Lamar. Drew, of course, got it, but that stat cannot happen. Possessions are everything in the post season. One of our biggest strengths is the size we have to dominate that glass. Instead of a single lone putback score by Drew, the trio should have generated a lot more offense than that. Just 74 shot attempts for the Lakers. Defensively, Bynum anchored the defense decently. The Hornets got into that open space in the lane for a lot of floaters against our bigmen. It's a shame the Hornets won the battle of the paint without even a post threat. The Stats: He scored 13 points on 4-7 shooting (5-7 from the line) to go with 9 boards, 2 blocks, 1 turnover and 4 fouls in 26 minutes. He was a -15. The Action: He took a pass cutting to the hoop and was fouled trying to power up, he made both FTs for the Lakers first score. He was called for a charge as he banged and made a pass (weak call). He swatted a Paul drive off the backboard. On the other end, he gathered a high entry from Artest and scored a layup. He posted up and tried to power through Okafor and this time got the call (makeup for the other bad call), he made one FT. He was called for his second foul and had to sit with 5 minutes left trying to prevent an Ariza dunk. He missed a turnaround at the shotclock buzzer. He couldn't finish a drive past Mbenga. He drew FTs in the paint after grabbing a loose ball, he made one. He cleaned up a missed Pau layup. He had 8 points on 2-4 shooting and 6 boards. Second Half: He swatted Okafor's post up. Strong drive to the rim and he powered in an And-1, he made the FT. He roofed Ariza trying to drive past him and Ariza lost the ball out of bounds. He missed a jumphook in the middle of the paint. He sank a 16-footer off the high pinch post. He couldn't get a jumpball with 3 minutes left.

Artest -- -- "I think Ron was probably the best player out there today," Phil said afterward. He certainly outplayed the Pau/Lamar duo. One of the few parts of the front court that actually consistently produced when called up. He hit a number of big threes (even a halfcourter) and some clutch FTs. He out-rebounded all the other bigs on his way to a double-double. It's a shame the Lakers wasted this game from him. Defensively, he was on a number of defenders, he even switched onto Paul defensively during parts of the game. That's probably too much to ask. He got burned on one play where he used a foul to give, then gave up FTs with a reach. The Stats: He scored 16 points on 4-8 shooting (2-3 from three, 6-6 from the line) to go with 11 boards (5 offensive), 1 assist, 2 turnovers and 5 fouls in 36 minutes. He was a +3. The Action: He missed a fading elbow jumper on the first possession. He grabbed a loose ball and threw it up to Bynum for a score. Nice close out on his man to force a brick. He had 6 boards in the first quarter. He sank a wing jumper standing on the three line. A sideline three rattled in and out. He drew FTs on the offensive board and made both. He was called for an offensive foul when Belinelli soccer flopped as Ron posted up, very weak. He muscled in a halfcourt heave from three at the buzzer. He had 7 points on 2-4 shooting and 8 boards (3 offensive). Second Half: He used a foul to give, then reached a couple seconds later to give up FTs with 4 seconds left. He iso'd, spun and banked from the post. He drew FTs crashing the offensive glass after missing a putback, he made both. He hit a three on a Kobe drive and kick. He grabbed a loose ball and drew FTs in the paint, he made both. Nice challenge on the other end to force a brick on Jack.

Fisher -- -- The Lakers know they are going to lose the DFish/Chris Paul matchup. You just can't lose it this bad. Make him a scorer or just an assist man...but not both. Can't tell you one the Lakers wanted him to be. He had 33 points and 14 assists. The screen-roll D was ridiculous. Fish is a step slow on it, but the bigmen were two steps slow, as well. That left a lot of space for Paul to work. What Blake does well is even if he's beat, he's still recovering and riding his man. That makes it easier for the help defenders. But he also is a step quicker than Fish on those schemes and can often prevent the switches from happening. "Tenacious," is the word often used by teammates and coaches (Kobe used it again today). Still, the Lakers team D schemes were ridiculous. Kobe said they didn't even do what they practiced, which might have been more aggressive work by both the bigs and Fisher when the screen happens. The Hornets had just 3 turnovers in the game. Fish looked like he should have drawn a whistle on a couple of charges that went the other way to produce. That would have produced a couple more turnovers. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 3-8 shooting (1-1 from three, 1-2 from the line) to go with 5 boards, 2 assists, 2 turnovers and 5 fouls in 39 minutes. He was a -4. The Action: He missed a 16-footer left alone in early offense. He swished a top-of-the-key jumper off a Pau kickout. He swished a three on a Kobe kickout. He missed an open sideline jumper in early offense. He attacked baseline and lost the handle. Second Half: He drained a jumper off a screen, standing on the three line. Should have been a charge on Paul, but Pau got to the floor quickly on an offensive flop and go the whistle. He attacked with aggression, spun and drew FTs in the paint, he made one. He attacked and missed a drive looking for a foul. He missed a wing three on a kickout. Nice challenge on a rotation to force a brick. He gave up a straight line layup to Paul when his help D wasn't set. He threw a pass away to start the fourth. He missed a long jumper with the offense stalled. Paul flopped on the perimeter with Fish standing still to earn FTs (awful call and we're going to have to deal with this all series).

Lamar -- -- Don't be fooled by the stat sheet. Lamar hit a couple threes in the final few seconds when the game was over. Sleepy first half, followed up by a brief moment where he looked aggressive when he came in during the second half. Then he fell back asleep again until the final 30 seconds of shoot-around. Take away those two threes and consider it a 4-point 1 board performance. Ridiculous. Someone needs to tell Pau and Lamar that the playoffs started. No one is going to hand you a win. You have to take them. Lamar said this was a blessing in disguise. "That's the zen outlook," Kobe said. The Stats: He scored 10 points on 3-6 shooting (2-5 from three, 2-4 from the line) to go with 1 board, 2 assists, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 31 minutes. He was a -8. The Action: He missed a three after entering the game. He reversed directions, attacked left and drew FTs, he made one. He missed a three. He attacked down the lane on the next possession and drew FTs, he made just one again. Second Half: He attacked aggressively, spun and banked over his man on his first possession. He had the ball stripped off him next time down, he wanted the foul. He hit a three with the game all but over. He missed another three. He sank another one with a couple seconds left.

Barnes -- -- Matt is struggling with the knee which got drained. So, he may have an excuse. Phil also played him light minutes because of the injury. Not much garbage-work, hustle action that the Lakers could have used from that second unit. They game was there for the taking to start the fourth, but the second unit once again coughed up a lead. The Killer B's haven't been neutralized by Hornets...just ill-timed injuries. The Stats: He didn't score on 0-2 shooting and had 1 steal, 1 turnover and 2 fouls in 8 minutes. He was a -11. The Action: Not close on a jumphook bank. He deflected a pass and it led to a Shannon score on the other end at the buzzer. He missed a wing three. Second Half: He threw a pass away on a dive cut, should have tried to finish.

Brown -- -- "No reason we shouldn't have come out with no energy and no life today," Shannon said. Shannon has been one of the weak points on the bench lately, but he wasn't the reason the Lakers lost today. Can't continue to flog him for the lack of game the others brought. He was efficient offensively. He had a couple of plays that you hoped would help spark the team in the second half -- a jumper and reverse on one sequence and a throwdown slam off a missed jumper on another. He was easily the best bench player today. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 4-6 shooting (0-1 from three) to go with 1 board, 1 assist, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 13 minutes. He was a -12. The Action: He busted out off the Barnes steal, took the perfect lead pass from Pau and took it in for a layup at the buzzer. He missed a quick-fire three on the first pass into the offense, uggh. Second Half: He hit a baseline step-back jumper. He attacked baseline next time down and scored on a hanging reverse. He missed a corner three. He slammed back in a Fisher miss, practically taking it from a defender in the process. Out of a timeout, he threw a bounce pass away trying to hit a teammate.

Ratliff -- -- He came in for Pau with under a minute left when Pau was bloodied. Not much time to do anything but he grabbed a board. The Stats: He had 1 board in 1 minute. He was a +2. The Action: Nothing to report. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Smith -- -- He came in for Lamar with under a minute left. Like Ratliff, token minutes the Lakers managed to do fine by. The Stats: The Action: Nice box out under the hoop to force his man out of the play. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Johnson -- -- Blake's chickenpox has Phil running some never-before-seen units in the first game of the playoffs. In the first half, Trey got some run to start the second quarter. Phil opted for Fisher to start the fourth. Jack and Paul got what they wanted. Not a knock on Trey. He did well enough in his minutes. Blake may not do as much as we like offensively, but he has played some tough D against both of those guys this year. We gave up 48 points between Paul and Jack, getting thoroughly killed there. Down the stretch, Phil was looking for anything, including Artest and Kobe on Paul. Offensively, Trey played a composed game. He hit a jumper and attacked of a screen to earn FTs. "Trey played well, very well. That's incredible if you think about it," Kobe said. The Stats: He scored 3 points on 1-2 shooting (1-2 from the line) to go with 3 boards and 1 foul in 6 minutes. He was a -5. The Action: He gave up three FTs on a swing through 28 feet from the hoop (only one made). On the other end, he attacked off the Bynum screen to his left, turned the corner and drew FTs on the drive, he made one. He grabbed a Kobe miss and reset the offense, got it back and drilled the open wing jumper. He missed a sideline jumper off a swing pass. Second Half: He did not play in the second half.

Phil -- -- He slipped on the ring he first won with the Knicks as a player and headed into battle... The Lakers quickly trailed 12-4 after 4 minutes. Phil didn't blink and the Lakers went on a 9-0 run to take the lead and force a Hornet timeout... Phil sat Bynum up 2 with 5 minutes left for Odom after Drew got hit with a couple fouls... Down 19-17 with 2 minutes left in the first Phil called a timeout. He brought in Shannon for Fisher and Barnes for Artest... The Lakers trailed 26-24 after the first quarter. The Hornets shot 54 percent... Phil started a Bynum, Lamar, Barnes, Brown, Johnson lineup. They were quickly outscored 7-0... He sat Barnes for Kobe... They trailed 37-30 when he called a timeout midway through the quarter. He went with the starters and Lamar for Drew... Phil sat Lamar for Drew a couple minutes later... Bynum then had to sit with his third, Lakers down 10... Phil sat Lamar with a minute left and had to sub out Pau who was bleeding for Ratliff. The rare Smith/Ratliff combo now manning the bigman spots... The Lakers trailed 55-47 at the half. The Lakers shot 42 percent (16-38, 2-7 from three, 13-18 from the line). The Hornets shot 58.5 percent (24-41, 3-6 from three, 4-10 from the line). The Lakers had 7 turnovers, the Hornets 2. Both Pau and Lamar played small... They cut it to 1 on a 7-0 run, but trailed quickly by 6 again... Phil sat Lamar for Bynum midway through the quarter and they trimmed it to 2 points before the Hornets called a timeout... Phil sat Shannon for DFish... The Lakers trailed 73-72 heading into the fourth quarter... Phil started a Bynum, Lamar, Barnes, Brown, Fisher unit. This is what it would look like if Blake started... The second unit struggled again to provide the team a spark, falling behind by 5 points after two and half minutes and getting the team into the penalty way too soon. Phil called a timeout... He brought in Kobe and Pau for Lamar and Barnes... He had to sit Bynum for Lamar when Drew picked up his fourth foul. He also brought in Artest for Shannon. So Pau, Lamar, Artest, Kobe and Fisher with 8 minutes left. The Lakers in the penalty... Phil switched Kobe on Paul. Pau ended up covering him twice, giving up jumpers. Phil called a timeout as they trailed by 7... Phil sat Pau with 3 minutes left for Bynum... He brought him back in 50 seconds later... Lakers could not get stops... The Lakers lost the points in the paint 52-34 and gave up 36 points in the fourth quarter... The Hornets shot 52 percent and had just 3 turnovers. They scored 17 points off of 13 Laker turnovers... "They were the aggressors," Phil said. "They stayed aggressive and beat us to balls."...

[E=MC²]

Lets see if this is enough or Lakers need a bigger deficit to start playing like they care.

[DancingBarry]

My 6-year-old was making up a commercial at the dinner table tonight that I thought summed up what was missing from the Lakers. She's pretending she was Ron Artest flexing:

"I've got muscles on my muscles! You've got to spit acid!"



We didn't play big and we certainly didn't spit acid.

[Sister Golden Hair]

LO is an idiot. Same ol', same ol. Had this guy never teamed up with #24 he'd still be searching for his first ring, maybe even his first advance in the play-offs. Shameful effort.

And Pau was even worse. This guy has either been all-world or milk-carton fodder. And lately it's been more the "have you seen this child" Pau. Another disgraceful non-effort.

I also thought Ron wa sthe best player on the lakers today. he seemed willing to mix it up.

I though Kobe and Fish, the two vets, got caught up in showing up the refs. For being such veteran guys, it was a disappointing effort by both.

But Pau was simply the worst. When the team depends on you as much as the lakers do on Pau, it is simpl inexcusable to be a no-show. Maybe he should ask himself why the game-plan from opponents throughout the league seems to be "rough Pau up because he will shrink from the fight." That offesive foul by Ariza was not a throw-away action. It was a test to show everyone on his team that Pau lacks heart. And how did Pau respond? Not well.

He will get tested even more severely in coming games. Once opponents sense any weakness they will attack mercilessly. Pua may be the only championship player who, having proved himself in the past, seemingly always forgets the lessons that allowed him to overcome in the first place.

If he plays another stinker like this the lakers will be in a real hole.

SGH

[Showtime88]

our entire section was on gasol pretty much all game. fish had as many rebounds than him.

spent most of the game with carl landry on him.

gasoft did not show up....

very frustrating to watch and the crowd could just not get into it...
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"Everybody on a championship team doesn't get publicity, but everyone can say he's a champion."-- Earvin Magic Johnson

[wolfpaclaker]

[Laker7]

Kobe scored more points than Pau, Lamar, and Bynum combined. That can't happen again if we want to win.
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Darvin Ham is an idiot!

[HBA]

THEN why didnt PJ just keep practicing them until they DID do it right?!?!?!?

God, this coach is full of nothing but excuses and lives of what his players do or don't do. Does this guy take ANY responsibility for his pathetic coachign and terrible strategic knowledge.

[Crumbling Dynasty]

[HBA]

[markjay]

I wasn't able to watch much of the game. How did Barnes look out there? Any word on his condition? Any guesses on what we can expect from him in the playoffs?

Even with Blake out and Barnes minimally effective, I think we can still beat NO, but assuming we manage to get through this round, we'll need all the firepower we have later on in the playoffs.

As for 48 points from their PGs? Ouch!!! I know that Paul is going to be almost impossible to stop and especially without Blake, but we have to do better than that.

[wolfpaclaker]

HBA - I'm saying you get these performances or "efforts" based on a mentality that was set/established in the RS.

[RVCdesigns]

great job by Pau tonight.

[Luca Brasi]

^ wolf, anyone who thinks that poorly of pau isn't worth wasting reasoning over.

pau will bounce back big time.

remember, it's extremely difficult to beat a team five times in row in one season.
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"i was born down in the valley where the sun refused to shine, but i'm climbin' up to the highlands, goin' to make that mountain mine" ~ Lakers, 2011

[magic_bryant]

Kobe would have won titles with Jermaine O'Neal in '07. He didn't and doesn't need Gasol or Odom, just needed players capable of creating shots for themselves and others consistently. JO did that back in the day, Noah today.

Without Kobe, Gasol is still wodering why his talents haven't lead to him winning a single playoff game. Loser's mentality.
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Stephon Marbury on Kobe: "He's the only person on 'dis earth that can do 'dat. He guards people, like shuts 'em down. Then, to do 'dat on 'da offensive end. It's like 'Damn, I can't score on him AND he about to bust my ass."

[Sister Golden Hair]

Wolf, historically LO shows up once every four or five games. Period. He's reverting back to form. Again.

To say that Kobe would still be looking for more titles if LO wasn't a teammate is ludicrous. It's LO who depends on Kobe, not the other way around. Pau is far more important, and thus his no-shows even more damning. What has Pau ever accomplished as lead dog in this league?

Imagine today's kind of effort when everyone on the team is looking at you -- as alpha dog -- to lead? Today's game was a perfectly good illustration of why Pau could never even win a play-off game as leader of his squad. He comes in thinking the game is already won. he steers clear of contact whenever he can. When challenged, he shrinks away, and appeals to the refs.

Pau's skill is harder to replace than what LO provides, but Pau's penchant for coming up small in big games is very telling and damning. Maybe Kobe doesn't win aanother ring without pau's talents helping open the floor. But without Kobe, Pau is an asterisk of a player.

SGH

[OregonLakerGuy]

Thanks DB.


Sad effort today, but I am betting that we bounce back.

[OregonLakerGuy]

[Bynum4MVP]

[E=MC²]

^ LOL, what kind of an excuse is that? Where are the rebounds? Where are the block shots? Where are steals? Where are assists? Odom and Pau flat out didn't show up in any facet of the game.

[Bynum4MVP]

[OregonLakerGuy]

[DancingBarry]

Bynum4mvp, that has never been something that held LO back. You need to give him more credit than that. He's never been that guy. Quite the opposite. Even under that theory, LO is often the main man on the second units. He's part of our two guard front that dictates what happens. Sorry, just don't agree with that at all.

[Bynum4MVP]

[Bynum4MVP]