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shansen008
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| loanman_316 wrote: | | LakersMDGurl wrote: | | shansen008 wrote: | | BigJosh951 wrote: | | Yong wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | FBP Si 2000 wrote: | | Where's the foul?!?!?! Now kobe is HURT |
what foul he missed the damn shot |
please watch the replay. defender undercut him, thereby causing him to twist his ankle
that is a clear foul by the book
wow refs really blew it today |
You have to give the shooter room to come down. How anybody who watches that play can say that is not a foul is baffling. Especially from so called Laker fans. |
I ust got home so i didnt get to see the game, they were replaying this shot when i turned the TV on. He was fouled thrice. He was shoved toward the baseline, then was clearly undercut. Not only was he undercut, but Jones was practically between his legs before Kobe came down. There was definitely contact before he landed in the body. THen of course Kobe comes down on him and twists his ankle.
There were 3 opportunities to call a foul there and they blew every one of them. Not surprising though, its Kobe. Par for the course.
To those saying they never call those at the end; what a pitiful excuse. A foul is a foul. This wasnt some 3/4 court heave where you were tapped on the elbow. That was easily a make-able shot. Especially for Kobe, hes made a career off that same shot attempt.
So i guess that makes clutch situations easy for the defense. We should just starting fouling and injuring Guys to end quarters/games. Great argument. |
You can't expect those to always be called, especially at that point in the game. That's why you look for the best shot, and not try to worry about the foul. This game is on us. The Hawks gift wrapped it many times, we re-gifted. Moving on... |
well stated |
Go away, i see your agenda....you have nothing to add to this. Your blind. Dont reply. Just go away. |
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We pretty much play pickup basketball. There isn't a system really, pick n roll is option one and then it's Kobe ball. When bench is in, it's still pick n roll as option one, then gun a 3 ball somewhere is next. This offense will maybe win a game in the playoffs, our defense may keep us out all together. Teams don't have success with the style of ball we play.
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| shansen008 wrote: | | LakersMDGurl wrote: | | shansen008 wrote: | | BigJosh951 wrote: | | Yong wrote: | | loanman_316 wrote: | | FBP Si 2000 wrote: | | Where's the foul?!?!?! Now kobe is HURT |
what foul he missed the damn shot |
please watch the replay. defender undercut him, thereby causing him to twist his ankle
that is a clear foul by the book
wow refs really blew it today |
You have to give the shooter room to come down. How anybody who watches that play can say that is not a foul is baffling. Especially from so called Laker fans. |
I ust got home so i didnt get to see the game, they were replaying this shot when i turned the TV on. He was fouled thrice. He was shoved toward the baseline, then was clearly undercut. Not only was he undercut, but Jones was practically between his legs before Kobe came down. There was definitely contact before he landed in the body. THen of course Kobe comes down on him and twists his ankle.
There were 3 opportunities to call a foul there and they blew every one of them. Not surprising though, its Kobe. Par for the course.
To those saying they never call those at the end; what a pitiful excuse. A foul is a foul. This wasnt some 3/4 court heave where you were tapped on the elbow. That was easily a make-able shot. Especially for Kobe, hes made a career off that same shot attempt.
So i guess that makes clutch situations easy for the defense. We should just starting fouling and injuring Guys to end quarters/games. Great argument. |
You can't expect those to always be called, especially at that point in the game. That's why you look for the best shot, and not try to worry about the foul. This game is on us. The Hawks gift wrapped it many times, we re-gifted. Moving on... |
Thats my point, it WAS a good shot. Thats a very make-able shot for him. SO if they never call "those" at the end...then what are you supposed to do? Your only hope at any shot in a late game situation is a wide open 30 footer where nobody is guarding you? Listen i understand everyone is conditioned to being screwed over on these types of plays, but that is not an excuse to accept it. We as fans should be demanding that they uphold the integrity of the game, from 12:00 in the 1st, to :01 of what ever quarter it ends....PERIOD. THe implication here is that he was not looking for the shot and looking for a foul instead....Kobe is ALWAYS looking to score. Dante initiated everything on that play, a foul is a foul.....3 times in one play. Last time i checked you cant shove a guy after he beats you off the dribble. Last time i checked you cant jump in a guys lap on his jumpshot.
Stop accepting BS Reality tv basketball, and start demanding BASKETBALL. |
Well reality for me is we lost, am over it....on to the next
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| Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| RMurphy_22 wrote: | | We pretty much play pickup basketball. There isn't a system really, pick n roll is option one and then it's Kobe ball. When bench is in, it's still pick n roll as option one, then gun a 3 ball somewhere is next. This offense will maybe win a game in the playoffs, our defense may keep us out all together. Teams don't have success with the style of ball we play. |
Bingo. |
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ForrestHump
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kobe iso kobe iso p&r kobe iso kobe iso kobe iso p&r
our offense in a nutshell
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| loanman_316 wrote: | | Coop_21 wrote: | | These type of losses happen to all teams but the Lakers record & first half of the season just makes it seem worse. After the emotional and long drawn out free throw practice for Dwight the team is gonna be off on the 2nd game of a back-to-back. Dwights foul trouble with no real back up hurt. And Kobe being off for 3 of the 4 quarters did to. However some of the mind boggling anti-Kobe Laker fans (which is moronic since he is the face of the franchise) are gonna put the blame on him. As if a loss where he struggles is extra worse. When he looked like an MVP last week those idiots were quiet & accepting the wins. |
its ok to call out poor play when it is there. they r doing it in studio now. no agenda just plain poor iso play. on to the next one |
People like you calling others idiot make me sick.
So Kobe could take all the credits and nobody would blame him or he would be an idiot.
I am not sure who is the real idiot here.
ISO game never worked for champ team, you win some then lose some, in the end you are a 0.500 team. It is you who could not take the blame. |
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watchME
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| funny how dantoni system wasnt a problem when the suns were dominating the regular season |
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n3bulous
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Kobe did go hero ball there at the end.
When hero ball works, it's magnificent and Kobe looks godly.
But when it doesn't? Ohhh boy... |
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ForrestHump
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| n3bulous wrote: | Kobe did go hero ball there at the end.
When hero ball works, it's magnificent and Kobe looks godly.
But when it doesn't? Ohhh boy... |
LG explodes
we're already in ruins
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| Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| n3bulous wrote: | Kobe did go hero ball there at the end.
When hero ball works, it's magnificent and Kobe looks godly.
But when it doesn't? Ohhh boy... |
and if you blame Kobe's ISO ball, you would be labeled as an "idiot" by some homers |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| RMurphy_22 wrote: | | We pretty much play pickup basketball. There isn't a system really, pick n roll is option one and then it's Kobe ball. When bench is in, it's still pick n roll as option one, then gun a 3 ball somewhere is next. This offense will maybe win a game in the playoffs, our defense may keep us out all together. Teams don't have success with the style of ball we play. |
normally, we run a high screen and roll, penetrate & probe offense with straight post-ups for dwight mixed in. obviously tonight was a bad example.
the bench plays pretty much the same style every night. |
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RMurphy_22
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| watchME wrote: | | funny how dantoni system wasnt a problem when the suns were dominating the regular season |
Different time and roster with Nash in his prime. Btw, what kind of ring do you get as regular season champ?
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| In Phoenix it used to be Nash playing street ball. The team tried it t his year, but Nash is no where near the player he was back then, so they have instead gone to having Kobe play street ball. There was a reason why D'Antoni kept saying everything would be okay after Nash gets back; he has no system. What D'Antoni didn't realize was that Nash had aged since he last coached him. |
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troll fight.
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| watchME wrote: | | funny how dantoni system wasnt a problem when the suns were dominating the regular season |
Didn't win jack with a prime Steve Nash either |
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Well the consistent fans don't celebrate when we win with kobe hero ball. Those are the only users on here I've learned to care to even discuss basketball with.
Some folks here don't understand principle. It's how you win, and the viability of it. It's entertaining when Kobe does the miraculous but I never go crazy. I just give daps and understand that it's not going to win a ring. Offensively as a team there's no chemistry or identity in the 4th quarter because you can't all b on the same page when it's iso for mamba.
MDA sucks at coaching. |
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| Close game. |
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n3bulous
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Kobe did have a sweet play there where they loaded up an entire side of the floor to stop him, and he found Metta sneaking free underneath the hoop for an easy lay in. Why didn't they do that more? Did the Hawks adjust? How? Somebody in here break down some tape, yo.
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| derekc wrote: | | watchME wrote: | | funny how dantoni system wasnt a problem when the suns were dominating the regular season |
Didn't win jack with a prime Steve Nash either |
nor should they have. that team overachieved.
and he was actually past his prime.
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| RMurphy_22 wrote: | | We pretty much play pickup basketball. There isn't a system really, pick n roll is option one and then it's Kobe ball. When bench is in, it's still pick n roll as option one, then gun a 3 ball somewhere is next. This offense will maybe win a game in the playoffs, our defense may keep us out all together. Teams don't have success with the style of ball we play. |
Thanks to Jim. |
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| watchME wrote: | | funny how dantoni system wasnt a problem when the suns were dominating the regular season |
Except this roster is built nothing like the suns |
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RetroNikes
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| Lakers just couldn't knock down open shots.. |
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MDA took his best team ever 7 games against Kobe, mihm, kwame, smush, walton.
7 games... Plz. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | derekc wrote: | | watchME wrote: | | funny how dantoni system wasnt a problem when the suns were dominating the regular season |
Didn't win jack with a prime Steve Nash either |
nor should they have. that team overachieved.
and he was actually past his prime. |
not sure if serious...
05-08 was Nash's prime, he was a 'late bloomer'
he did fine in Dallas but in PHX all his numbers, including efficiency went up. shooting 53% FG 45% 3PT 90% FT while avging almost 19 and 12 for the season is crazy, definitely prime Nash there.
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| ForrestHump wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | derekc wrote: | | watchME wrote: | | funny how dantoni system wasnt a problem when the suns were dominating the regular season |
Didn't win jack with a prime Steve Nash either |
nor should they have. that team overachieved.
and he was actually past his prime. |
not sure if serious...
05-08 was Nash's prime, he was a 'late bloomer'
he did fine in Dallas but in PHX all his numbers, including efficiency went up. shooting 53% FG 45% 3PT 90% FT while avging almost 19 and 12 for the season is crazy, definitely prime Nash there. |
and you think he wouldn't have been even better in that offense when he was 28-31? |
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