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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:01 am    Post subject:

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Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...


He's a scrub, playing with a scrub lineup against another scrubs. Buy yeah, i am saying for a while that i would like to see him play in that #3 spot with the first team, even if only a couple of minutes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:06 am    Post subject:

K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...


Of course he's not taking more than 3 shots a game but that's not why I brought out the stats. Nothing you have provided so far proves that he's playing badly and not worthy of making the opening day roster.

Anyone can see that he's been playing good defense for this team.

Game 6: MIN: 10 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 2-2 REB: 0 TO: 1
Game 5: MIN: 16 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 3 TO: 1
Game 4: MIN: 15 FGM-FGA: 0-1 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 1 TO: 1
Game 3: MIN: 8 FGM-FGA: 0-0 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 2 TO: 0
Game 2: MIN: 13 FGM-FGA: 1-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 5 TO: 0
Game 1: MIN: 9 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 1 TO: 0
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:08 am    Post subject:

RetroNikes wrote:
K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...


Of course he's not taking more than 3 shots a game but that's not why I brought out the stats. Nothing you have provided so far proves that he's playing badly and not worthy of making the opening day roster.

Anyone can see that he's been playing good defense for this team.

Game 6: MIN: 10 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 2-2 REB: 0 TO: 1
Game 5: MIN: 16 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 3 TO: 1
Game 4: MIN: 15 FGM-FGA: 0-1 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 1 TO: 1
Game 3: MIN: 8 FGM-FGA: 0-0 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 2 TO: 0
Game 2: MIN: 13 FGM-FGA: 1-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 5 TO: 0
Game 1: MIN: 9 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 1 TO: 0


Who are you guys talking about?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:09 am    Post subject:

George the Greek wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...


Of course he's not taking more than 3 shots a game but that's not why I brought out the stats. Nothing you have provided so far proves that he's playing badly and not worthy of making the opening day roster.

Anyone can see that he's been playing good defense for this team.

Game 6: MIN: 10 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 2-2 REB: 0 TO: 1
Game 5: MIN: 16 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 3 TO: 1
Game 4: MIN: 15 FGM-FGA: 0-1 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 1 TO: 1
Game 3: MIN: 8 FGM-FGA: 0-0 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 2 TO: 0
Game 2: MIN: 13 FGM-FGA: 1-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 5 TO: 0
Game 1: MIN: 9 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 1 TO: 0


Who are you guys talking about?


Harris
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:09 am    Post subject:

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K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...


He's a scrub, playing with a scrub lineup against another scrubs. Buy yeah, i am saying for a while that i would like to see him play in that #3 spot with the first team, even if only a couple of minutes


Wrong. He's played some with the starts but mainly against other second unit players.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:09 am    Post subject:

I saw a lot of smiling out there, and had a sense both these teams had a pretty good time during their trip. It looked to me like both sides realized this is a preseason game. I didn't see that heated competition, technical fouls, players tangling and broken up fights out there. I didn't see players really ticked off if they messed up. They played loose, like they had nothing to lose. Particularly Golden State, which may explain getting white hot from way outside like they did.

It looked to me like a bunch of guys who had a good time together and were there to play some bb, get some practice in, let their coaches work through a few things, and entertain the crowd.

Gasol wasn't out there at all when the Lakers got blown out. The Hill/Kaman combo wasn't working well, and Kelly is not familiar with the offense yet, which led to quite a few of Blake's and Farmar's turnovers. Hill had a very off game to go with a sub-par preseason. Sorry to see this, but it's all going to give MDA something to go on when figuring out regular season rotations. From that respect I could give a crap about the final score, it's just interesting to see where each of the players are at this stage.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:10 am    Post subject:

RetroNikes wrote:
George the Greek wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...


Of course he's not taking more than 3 shots a game but that's not why I brought out the stats. Nothing you have provided so far proves that he's playing badly and not worthy of making the opening day roster.

Anyone can see that he's been playing good defense for this team.

Game 6: MIN: 10 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 2-2 REB: 0 TO: 1
Game 5: MIN: 16 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 3 TO: 1
Game 4: MIN: 15 FGM-FGA: 0-1 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 1 TO: 1
Game 3: MIN: 8 FGM-FGA: 0-0 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 2 TO: 0
Game 2: MIN: 13 FGM-FGA: 1-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 5 TO: 0
Game 1: MIN: 9 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 1 TO: 0


Who are you guys talking about?


Harris


Haven't noticed him much, to be honest. He seems like a system guy, does his work efficiently, quietly. Nothing spectacular, doesn't stand out and plays hard.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:13 am    Post subject:

George the Greek wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
George the Greek wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...


Of course he's not taking more than 3 shots a game but that's not why I brought out the stats. Nothing you have provided so far proves that he's playing badly and not worthy of making the opening day roster.

Anyone can see that he's been playing good defense for this team.

Game 6: MIN: 10 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 2-2 REB: 0 TO: 1
Game 5: MIN: 16 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 3 TO: 1
Game 4: MIN: 15 FGM-FGA: 0-1 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 1 TO: 1
Game 3: MIN: 8 FGM-FGA: 0-0 FTM-FTA: 1-2 REB: 2 TO: 0
Game 2: MIN: 13 FGM-FGA: 1-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 5 TO: 0
Game 1: MIN: 9 FGM-FGA: 2-3 FTM-FTA: 0-0 REB: 1 TO: 0


Who are you guys talking about?


Harris


Haven't noticed him much, to be honest. He seems like a system guy, does his work efficiently, quietly. Nothing spectacular, doesn't stand out and plays hard.


Harris created the turnover in the final seconds of the second Denver game, sealing the win for the Lakers. He did so with excellent pressure.

And yes, Harris HAS been defending NBA regulars, not just scrubs. Other coaches have focused far more on closing games with their starters/rotation players than the Lakers have.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:14 am    Post subject:

RetroNikes wrote:
Fruscas wrote:
K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
RetroNikes wrote:
Over 50% from the Field
3 Points Per Game
12 Minutes per game

All of this while playing good defense.

Yeah, he's terrible.


How many shot attempts does he take? not many so the 50% does not surprise me, on another hand anyone can look good defensively guarding against the other opponents scrub players.

I wanna see how he does against actual bench players...


He's a scrub, playing with a scrub lineup against another scrubs. Buy yeah, i am saying for a while that i would like to see him play in that #3 spot with the first team, even if only a couple of minutes


Wrong. He's played some with the starts but mainly against other second unit players.


Dont remember seeing that, but ok. Hopefully we'll have a chance to take a closer look at him against the Jazz, now that Landry's going to be cut?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject:

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Haven't noticed him much, to be honest. He seems like a system guy, does his work efficiently, quietly. Nothing spectacular, doesn't stand out and plays hard.
And people that are saying he should be cut are not seeing this.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:20 am    Post subject:

I have nothing against Harris, but I wanna see him develop some skills in the D-League or overseas.... I don't think he's ready yet... but he has shown some bright spots...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:20 am    Post subject:

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Haven't noticed him much, to be honest. He seems like a system guy, does his work efficiently, quietly. Nothing spectacular, doesn't stand out and plays hard.
And people that are saying he should be cut are not seeing this.


Not everyone knows basketball and can analyze something.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject:

To be honest, Harris is playing better basketball than both John and Henry so far. Yes, Henry's first two pre-season games were great, but he has struggled ever since. Henry has 15 turnovers this preseason and forcing up a lot of shots. Today he has played within himself and still playing good defense for this Laker team. I think Lakers will need both Henry's and Harris' defense as this Laker season beings.
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I have nothing against Harris, but I wanna see him develop some skills in the D-League or overseas.... I don't think he's ready yet... but he has shown some bright spots...
If he can successfully play defense against NBA talent right now, then he doesn't need to go back to the D-League. The could really use him when Wes Johnson is struggling.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:31 am    Post subject:

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To be honest, Harris is playing better basketball than both John and Henry so far. Yes, Henry's first two pre-season games were great, but he has struggled ever since. Henry has 15 turnovers this preseason and forcing up a lot of shots. Today he has played within himself and still playing good defense for this Laker team. I think Lakers will need both Henry's and Harris' defense as this Laker season beings.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:31 am    Post subject:

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RetroNikes wrote:
To be honest, Harris is playing better basketball than both John and Henry so far. Yes, Henry's first two pre-season games were great, but he has struggled ever since. Henry has 15 turnovers this preseason and forcing up a lot of shots. Today he has played within himself and still playing good defense for this Laker team. I think Lakers will need both Henry's and Harris' defense as this Laker season beings.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:50 am    Post subject:

Wow. That game got UGLY after the starters were pulled with five to go in the third, though to be fair even the starters were getting their asses drummed in the third.

Good game from Pau. We really need him to exert himself more on d, though. And he needs to learn to move off the ball more and cut to help Nash out. Kaman does a better job of making himself available on the way to the hoop.

Much better, more Jordan Hill like game from Hill today. If that's all we get from him, a few points and a grip of boards, I'll take it.

My only worry is that by this point we should be figuring out our lineups and how we want to finish games, and we have nothing established yet. Too many injuries to start, I guess.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:33 am    Post subject:

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I'm not really worried about this loss to be honest, the Warriors had there fun.... but let's not act like the Lakers really wanted this win..... the Warriors will be lucky to get to the 2nd round this season... they are probably 1-2 injuries away from being a mediocre team.


LOL...isn't that most NBA teams? (including the Lakers)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:45 am    Post subject:

Did anyone get a screen capture of the Chazz sighting?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:50 am    Post subject:

Just watched the game. Wesley Johnson is bad. Marcus Landry should have been cut a while ago. Ryan Kelly is not athletic at all. Nick Young is a baller and he guarded Iggy well.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject:

K0BEE 2.0 wrote:
I have nothing against Harris, but I wanna see him develop some skills in the D-League or overseas.... I don't think he's ready yet... but he has shown some bright spots...


I've got nothing against seeing Harris get some D-League time myself, depending on how deep in the rotation he ends up. I think he's fine on defense, but he does lack experience, and if he's deep bench he'd be better off spending some time on the court than watching in a suit. He could also work on expanding his offensive skills in a low-pressure situation while he's at it.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:02 am    Post subject:

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115-89.... Terrible


Better get used to this... D'Antoni's trademark types of game!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:09 am    Post subject:

kobe_luver 0-1 in game threads, 26 point blowout.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:13 am    Post subject:

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Just watched the game. Wesley Johnson is bad. Marcus Landry should have been cut a while ago. Ryan Kelly is not athletic at all. Nick Young is a baller and he guarded Iggy well.


I thought Wesley looked pretty good. What did you see that you didn't like?
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